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Tue Apr 27, 2021, 05:41 PM

'Beleaguered' French Jewry 'Dealt an Incredible Injustice' With Sarah Halimi Verdict

https://www.algemeiner.com/2021/04/27/beleaguered-french-jewry-dealt-an-incredible-injustice-in-sarah-halimi-verdict-says-algemeiner-editor-in-chief/


The family of Halimi — the French Jewish woman brutally murdered in her Paris apartment by 31-year-old Kobili Traore, who bellowed antisemitic slogans as he beat her — lost a final ruling in France’s top appeals court this month, which upheld an earlier decision that he could not be held criminally responsible because his intake of marijuana on the night of the killing had rendered him temporarily insane.

“One of the most beleaguered Jewish communities on the planet has been dealt an incredible injustice leaving every single member of that community concerned, and fearing that their security and safety can no longer be guaranteed and secured in the country of France,” Efune said of the ruling.
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Thousands gathered in cities from Paris and Marseille to Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, London and New York on Sunday, calling for Traore to be held accountable. “The call for justice is ringing across the globe,” said Efune on Sunday. “It’s resonated because the injustice is so great. We’ve known for so long that the harm, and the danger, and threats that have been thrust upon French Jewry have been significant and extensive and torturous. But certainly the ability to achieve justice and to track down perpetrators, has been fundamental and crucial.”

“Now, French Jews have faced with a scenario where not only are they facing the challenges and threats, but the tools with which to respond to them and hold perpetrators accountable have been hamstrung significantly by the state and the judicial system,” he added.

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So marijuana makes you want to kill another human being ? Bulls*it.

And how does smoking marijuana give you the coordination to kill someone.

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Reply 'Beleaguered' French Jewry 'Dealt an Incredible Injustice' With Sarah Halimi Verdict (Original post)
Rustyeye77 Apr 27 OP
Rustyeye77 Apr 27 #1
Hugh_Lebowski Apr 27 #2
ChazII Apr 27 #3
JohnSJ Apr 27 #4
Rustyeye77 Apr 28 #20
alittlelark Apr 27 #5
Rustyeye77 Apr 27 #8
alittlelark Apr 27 #12
sarisataka Apr 27 #6
ripcord Apr 27 #7
Demovictory9 Apr 27 #9
yardwork Apr 27 #10
Rustyeye77 Apr 27 #11
DFW Apr 27 #13
Rustyeye77 Apr 28 #14
DFW Apr 28 #15
Oneironaut Apr 28 #16
superpatriotman Apr 28 #17
JI7 Apr 28 #18
oasis Apr 28 #19
Behind the Aegis Apr 28 #21
Rustyeye77 Apr 28 #22

Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 05:48 PM

1. Feh...he just threw her out the 3rd story window

The handling of Halimi’s slaying has been a watershed event for many French Jews, who say it underlines the French state’s failures in dealing with anti-Semitism.

Traore broke into the third-story apartment of Halimi, a physician and educator in her 60s, shouted about Allah, called her a demon and pummeled Halimi. The intruder then threw Halimi out the window.

Traore then shouted out the window, “A lady has fallen out the window,” and fled the scene, witnesses said. Police caught him nearby.

An appeals court said Traore, now in his early 30s, had anti-Semitic bias and that the killing was partly connected to it. But it also accepted the defense claims that Traore was too high to be tried for his actions and he was placed at a psychiatric facility.

https://www.jta.org/quick-reads/french-top-court-upholds-decision-not-to-try-arab-man-who-killed-his-jewish-neighbor-while-high-on-marijuana

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 05:52 PM

2. Funny I've smoked pot like 1000 times and managed to not throw anyone out a window ...

Or even physically harm anyone in any way, come to think of it.

What a freaking TRAVESTY this is

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 05:53 PM

3. A tragedy. n/t

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 06:03 PM

4. France has such a history

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 02:20 PM

20. No s*it

Enough is enough

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 06:08 PM

5. I have gottten REALLLLLY, REALLY HIGH

and added edibles on top.... but NEVER felt even a tiny twinge of an urge to kill someone. Not even to be confrontational. I just thought the kitchen appliances were talking to me. And I used them to make munchies.


Ridiculous ruling !!!!

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Response to alittlelark (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:46 PM

8. I've been high too many times.

How do you have the coordination A. To kill someone and B. Throw her off a 3rd floor balcony ?

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:09 PM

12. You don't - cuz u were high

and REALLY getting into the houseplants .... I mean reallly ..... don't tell anyone, OK ?!?

Ludicrous - ANY cop ANYWHERE will tell u they would rather deal with a stoner than a drunk or a methhead. They would likely rather deal with a stoner than a Karen !!

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 06:31 PM

6. Apparently it is legal in Europe to murder Jews.

Again.

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 06:37 PM

7. I guess old trends always come back around

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:47 PM

9. yes, awful outcome

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 07:49 PM

10. Horrible decision.

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:02 PM

11. I'm going to say it.

Fuck the French government.

It’s been open season on Jews for the past like 10 years.
Macron gives his usual bullshit crocodile tears condemnation but does nothing.
It no secret that these death are all related to what Macron calls “Islamic terrorism”

It’s also no secret that hundreds/thousands of Jews have left France for Israel.

Now some punk ass claims he was high on pot ,kills an innocent woman and throws her off a 3rd floor balcony... all the while yelling Allah...... and the French judicial kangaroo courts let this murderer walk.

It’s time for the remaining Jews to get the hell out of that hell hole..

When you can’t trust the courts to defend you, time to leave.

Flame away.

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:14 PM

13. This is also a successful mitigating defense in Germany

Being drunk or high is a "mitigating circumstance," and usually leads to a drastically reduced sentence for violent crimes. In its effort to bend over backwards in being lenient to criminals, after the Nazi eagerness to shoot or behead anyone they depicted as irksome, the German legal system has de facto de-criminalized theft, assault, and armed robbery (but knives only, please: don't use a gun--they don't like that). It's OK to bash someone over the head with a baseball bat and rob them--just make sure you pay taxes on your gain, or you're REALLY in trouble. Don't laugh--that happened to a friend of mine, and when he fought back, HE was the one charged with assault and battery (charge dropped later--the barely healed wounds on his head were conspicuous enough that even the judge couldn't ignore them).

The EU in general needs an overhaul of its criminal statutes. Lenience and tolerance are for those who least deserve it, as they know full well they enjoy de facto immunity from prosecution. I was in Brussels one time when a young (19 or 20) guy was breaking into a car to steal its GPS or radio, whatever was in there. The car was parked right in front of a police station (!!), so the cops streamed out and arrested him, asking him "WTF were you thinking to pull this right in front of us?" He answered,"why are you even bothering? You know that if you arrest me, I'll be right back here in 2 hours," which he was, although he didn't try it again.

These laws inspired by "tolerance" are, of course, pure rocket fuel for the xenophobic European radical right, which loves nothing more than immigrant criminals publicly mocking the cops, saying nyahh, nyahh, you can't touch me. This is how they garner vote percentages that should be around 3% into percentages that now amount to more than 25%, and make them difficult to ignore when it's coalition-forming time after an election.

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Response to DFW (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 07:53 AM

14. Thats just so insane.

What is wrong with these people.

UN-BELIEVE-ABLE

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 08:18 AM

15. Welcome to the fractured world of European politics

The European far right would have gotten nowhere without the help of the European far left. The East German ruling party, the SED (Socialist Unity Party of Germany), never conducted a thorough de-Nazification program because their official line was „we‘re all good Socialists now, no more Nazis here!“ After the Wall fell, guess what part of Germany had a huge rise in neo-Nazi activity? Yup, that part where their existence had been denied in the first place. „We have no problem, therefore, we are in no need of a solution.“

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 08:37 AM

16. wtf!

How can this happen in a modern society? Is there more to the story? This sounds insane!

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 08:39 AM

17. What a crock

Of shit

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 08:43 AM

18. This is so fucked up

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 08:51 AM

19. The French court had to be "high" on pot when ruling such nonsense.

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Response to Rustyeye77 (Original post)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 02:23 PM

21. from JTA

Infuriated by the Sarah Halimi ruling, French Jews decry the state’s handling of antisemitism

A rumble rose from the 20,000 Jewish protesters at Trocadero Square, then exploded into shrill screams.

“I don’t even know whether to reassure you or cry out my fury,” boomed Joel Mergui, president of the Consistoire, the organ of French Jewry responsible for providing Orthodox religious services. “Yes, cry out your fury!”

French Jewish events are usually dignified affairs that often end with the singing of the Marseillaise, the French national anthem. But the rally on Sunday protesting the fate of the man who murdered his Jewish neighbor Sarah Halimi in 2017 — the largest Jewish gathering in France in at least a decade — was a rare show of raw emotion from a community that has questioned its future in France in recent years.

The protest, which had smaller offshoots in other cities such as Tel Aviv, Miami, London and the Hague, was triggered by the April 14 ruling by a high French court in the Halimi case. A man named Kobili Traore, who was 27 at the time and a devout Muslim who would spend entire days at a nearby mosque, entered Halimi’s apartment and beat her to death while shouting about Allah. Traore then threw Halimi out the window.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 28, 2021, 02:28 PM

22. I'm sure Macron will do something.

He will do what he’s done for like 10 years... pay mindless lip service.

Will the last Jew out of France please turn off the lights.

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