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Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:06 AM

New Red State Evil Plot: Going Authoritarian & Ditching Democracy

Republicans in state after state are loading cannons as you’re reading this, and the very concept of democracy is the target. Will their scheme be completed by 2024?

Americans thought January 6 was the peak of the effort to end democracy in America and replace it with strongman authoritarian rule. But January 6 was merely the tip of the iceberg.

And it’s not just about Donald Trump. This “iceberg” monster that threatens to sink the United States is about ending democracy altogether here and replacing it with a wealthy, white aristocratic oligarchy.

The less visible but largest part of that iceberg is in the states, and it’s huge.

Red state after red state is nakedly and openly flipping from democracy to a form of authoritarian oligarchy.

Authoritarian Republicans at the state level, in state after state, are criminalizing protest with such severe penalties that simply stepping off the sidewalk and into the street during a protest could land you 15 years in jail.

At the same time, they’re legalizing the murder of pro-democracy, anti-fascist protesters.

The man who killed Heather Heyer and wounded numerous others at the Charlottesville Nazi/Trump rally with his car, for example, could well now be found not-guilty if legislation that has already passed in one state and is pending in multiple others were to pass in Virginia.

These new laws say that any motorist who is trying to “flee a riot“ and injures or kills people in the process can be held harmless. It’s the protest/automobile equivalent of “stand your ground laws.“

Finally, and most alarming, these authoritarian Republicans are seizing control of the actual mechanism of voting.

We’re seeing this writ large in Arizona right now, where rightwing conspiracy advocates were hired by Republicans in the state legislature to “audit” the November vote in an attempt to prove that Donald Trump actually won that states election.

While that sounds bad, wait until 2022 and 2024 when a couple dozen red states will have seized complete control of their election systems, like Republican politicians just did in Georgia.

They have cut election professionals and the Secretary of State out of the process entirely and handed to partisan Republicans the power to decide who actually won or lost the elections in the state, which votes get counted and which don’t, regardless of what the voters said overall.

These Republicans explicitly do not believe in democracy. They think it’s a quaint and outdated idea, but that they know a better way to run a country. Just let the “really smart” people make all the decisions and everything will work out just fine.

And how do you know who is “really smart?” Whoever is richest. Our culture constantly amplifies this message: the richest guy in the room is also the smartest. It’s the political version of Neo-Calvinism.

We find it throughout our media where our super-wealthy people are treated like rock stars and demigods, and it’s implicit in our legal system where wealthy criminals almost never go to jail.

Even when their crimes destroy the lives of thousands, like we saw during the the Bush crash of 2008, multimillionaires like Steve Mnuchin made off with huge piles of cash while tens of thousands of working-class Americans lost their homes and many lost their families and even their lives. As if to prove the rule, the one guy who did go to prison for financial fraud was Bernie Madoff – but he didn’t steal from average people, he stole from rich people. Now that is a serious crime.

Looking just at the most recent elections faced by House and Senate members who supported overturning the 2020 election, the Center for Media and Democracy found some mind-boggling statistics.

Josh Hawley and Rick Scott are arguably the two most serious contenders for president on the Republican side in 2024. Hawley received $41,169,601 from dark money groups leading up to his last election, according to the Center, and Rick Scott received $35,142,565.

This does not include money their official campaigns for the candidates themselves took in or spent; it’s just the largely invisible “dark money” spent to help them that we only learn about months after the election.

Rightwing billionaires, their report notes, put over $67 million into Kevin McCarthy’s Congressional Leadership Fund to support the 147 members of the House who voted against the 2020 presidential election results, and more than $40 million into Mitch McConnell’s Senate Leadership Fund to support similarly-voting Republican senators.

They document how Senator Ted Cruz got well over $8 million, and even Colorado’s eccentric gun fetishist Lauren Boebert got $4,917,827.

All of this was made possible by right-wingers on the Supreme Court who blew up a whole series of good-government, anti-bribery laws Congress passed dating all the way back to 1907, with the ultimate knife in the back of democracy coming in 2010 with their Citizens United decision.

The top donor husband and wife who helped members of Congress who voted to overturn Joe Biden’s election kicked in $191.4 million to the dark-money groups supporting these politicians. Just behind them a single hedge fund CEO put in $59.8 million. Next was a guy who inherited a fortune from his father: he tossed in $50 million just support these authoritarians, followed by another financier at $46 million. The list goes on…

The Center documents how dozens of corporations also added in tens of millions of additional dollars to support those members of Congress who wanted to overthrow the election of 2020.

While the Center reports that Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch tossed in $2 million, less than half of the $4.4 million Betsy DeVos put in, their network, Fox News, has done the really heavy lifting to support ending democracy in America.

Every night in prime time, multimillionaire hosts like Tucker Carlson promote the idea that white authoritarian rule is necessary to keep America from descending into chaos caused by dark-skinned immigrants and Black people, particularly if they’re allowed to vote.

While Ronald Reagan supported apartheid in South Africa, the modern conservative movement he birthed is now supporting it here in the United States.

We thought we dodged a bullet with the 2020 election. But Republicans in state after state are loading cannons as you’re reading this, and the very concept of democracy itself is in their bullseye.

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Reply New Red State Evil Plot: Going Authoritarian & Ditching Democracy (Original post)
thomhartmann Apr 26 OP
RKP5637 Apr 26 #1
multigraincracker Apr 26 #2
dalton99a Apr 26 #3
Hortensis Apr 26 #4
Crunchy Frog Apr 26 #5
Mysterian Apr 26 #6
Harker Apr 26 #22
Elessar Zappa Apr 27 #40
PortTack Apr 27 #44
Crunchy Frog Apr 27 #49
berniesandersmittens Apr 26 #7
peggysue2 Apr 26 #8
wnylib Apr 26 #20
peggysue2 Apr 26 #32
Crunchy Frog Apr 26 #24
wnylib Apr 26 #33
peggysue2 Apr 26 #34
johnthewoodworker Apr 26 #9
roamer65 Apr 26 #15
wnylib Apr 26 #21
Crunchy Frog Apr 26 #25
Elessar Zappa Apr 27 #41
UCmeNdc Apr 26 #10
BobTheSubgenius Apr 26 #11
TomDaisy Apr 26 #12
Dustlawyer Apr 26 #13
bucolic_frolic Apr 26 #14
PortTack Apr 27 #45
roamer65 Apr 26 #16
Harker Apr 26 #19
roamer65 Apr 26 #28
Wild blueberry Apr 26 #17
ancianita Apr 26 #18
Crunchy Frog Apr 26 #26
Roisin Ni Fiachra Apr 27 #42
PortTack Apr 27 #46
1cheapbeemr Apr 26 #23
ancianita Apr 26 #27
CrispyQ Apr 26 #29
PortTack Apr 27 #47
appalachiablue Apr 26 #30
Hassler Apr 26 #31
BadGimp Apr 26 #35
Blue Owl Apr 27 #36
PortTack Apr 27 #48
calimary Apr 27 #37
Duppers Apr 27 #38
DAngelo136 Apr 27 #39
CrispyQ Apr 27 #50
Pepsidog Apr 27 #43

Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:08 AM

1. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! n/t

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:16 AM

2. Voting is a fundamental right and we need to protect it

by passing laws on the state level to protect that right. As the Right used this language against unions by passing Right-to-Work laws, we need Right-to-Vote laws to protect our fundamental right.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:25 AM

3. And their voter suppression project is coordinated through ALEC

https://documented.net/2020/12/alec-convenes-secret-working-group-focused-on-elections-redistricting/

ALEC Convenes Secret Working Group Focused on Elections, Redistricting
by Jamie Corey | December 3, 2020 | Updated December 14, 2020

Numerous Republican legislators, election commissioners and right-wing attorneys participated in a secretive “process working group,” organized by the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), which has focused on election and redistricting issues, according to details obtained by Documented. ALEC does not publicly list the meeting on its formal agenda or mention the working group on its website. Documented first reported on the working group earlier this year.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:26 AM

4. Russia is one of those red states. nt

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:29 AM

5. I don't expect this country to still be even a nominal democracy four years from now.

And I've seen it coming since before the election, and certainly during the period between the election and the inauguration. I never thought we dodged a bullet in 2020, just that we got a 4 year respite.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:43 AM

6. I hope you're wrong

But it's hard to be optimistic in a nation with tens of millions of idiots who believe every vile right-wing lie that comes out of their radio or TV.

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Response to Mysterian (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:58 PM

22. ...and when a bunch of them are anxiously awaiting Civil War II

so that they can really celebrate the second amendment.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:42 AM

40. It can be stopped if good people have the will.

We outnumber fascists considerably. We just need to act like it, unite and kick them out of office everywhere. If they cheat to stay in office, we shut down the cities.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:33 AM

44. There still way more of us than are them. Yes, they are going on to try. These laws are landing in

The courts one right after the other and most will not stand..at least the most egregious parts. The most distressing part is acting as if we have no power or options. This is exactly what they want us to believe. Don’t!!!!

It’s good to be aware, but Hartman is always the darkest with his predictions.

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Response to PortTack (Reply #44)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 12:24 PM

49. These thoughts are from my own head, nothing to do with Hartman.

I guess you could call me dark too.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:44 AM

7. K&R nt

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 11:52 AM

8. This is spot on

Republicans have given up on the quaint idea of democracy; they are now fans of autocratic rule where all things political and financial are controlled by the 'right people.'

Trump was but a prelude. We're still fighting for our lives and national identity.

We are one election away from losing everything which is why losing in 2022 & 2024 is not an option. Republicans have not been the loyal opposition for quite some time. They've showed us what they are and what they wish to be.

The coup continues in state houses around the country. Less noisy, at the moment. But no less seditious.

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:56 PM

20. Trump was a prelude indeed. He was

the front man who brought into the open a movement that has been ongoing for decades. Getting him out of office did not end the movement. Just the opposite. They are digging in deeper and harder. This will not end well. If they succeed in gaining control of government again, there will be open opposition that will be violently suppressed, followed by further violence.

If they fail to take control in 2022 or 2024, they will stage another violent coup.

Either way, we need to brace for some rough times ahead. Hold onto government and prepare for RW extremist rebellion and backlash.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 06:56 PM

32. Either way, we need to brace for some rough times ahead.

Yes. It's easy to fall into a gigantic sigh of relief because Trump lost and Biden won. The fight continues because the Republican Party has veered away from a democratic position, wrapped their arms around Trumpism and aren't about to let go.

Not unless they're defeated, repeatedly.

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Response to peggysue2 (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:19 PM

24. This is why the absolute highest priority for the Democrats

MUST be to stop the states from enacting anti-democracy legislation. And they must fight it with everything they have, and every possible tool at their disposal.

They need to fight as if half the country was under Nazi occupation.

If they fail at this, our republic will no longer exist in four years. If we do fail, we should at least be able to say that we went down fighting.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 07:00 PM

33. +1000.

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #24)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 07:04 PM

34. Yes, again.

We need to support the individuals and groups who are in the trenches fighting these anti-democratic bills on the ground, in the courts, where ever. And keep the stories alive because the GOP really wants this done under the radar with no transparency or howling public criticism.

We may not be able to shame them but damn, we can shine a spotlight on their electoral machinations.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:09 PM

9. Anyone who thinks you can defeat Republican/Nazis with peaceful relationships should read about Nazi

Germany and consider gun ownership.

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Response to johnthewoodworker (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:12 PM

15. I agree.

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Response to johnthewoodworker (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:58 PM

21. Sadly true. We have more rough times ahead.

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Response to johnthewoodworker (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:24 PM

25. You think gun ownership will help if the fascists are in charge of the police forces

and the US military?

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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #25)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:45 AM

41. Not to sound like a gun but but

it is true that a populace armed against a powerful govt. can produce a pesky insurgency like Iraq did. Of course, I hope and pray it never comes to that.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:26 PM

10. K&R

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:31 PM

11. "...wrapped in the flag and carring a cross..."

A pretty apt and very prescient quote, whoever said it.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 12:44 PM

12. tell the mask holes: "Just comply! Wear a mask! Just comply! Get vaccinated!"

They seem to like telling others to "Just comply" - see if they can take their own advice.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:09 PM

13. As long as we allow legal bribery of our politicians we will continue to spiral down.

We are already under an oligarchy. The wealthy control the politicians with donations and the media with ad dollars. Meanwhile, we fight for immigration reform, climate change, gun control... and get no where.

Let's band together to force serious campaign finance reform and media reform. The propaganda must be stopped as well!

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:11 PM

14. I'm just stumped

Millennials seem the only hope to me. Is our DNC up to the task? They need to examine 2018 more than 2020.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:36 AM

45. Have you read what the DNC is up to..if not you should..and make donations to their efforts

Jamie Harrison has some really good plans laid out

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:15 PM

16. I have been saying this for quite sometime.

Secession just may have to happen in order to prevent living under right wing fascist tyranny.

NY, New England, CA, OR and WA I think will be the first to go.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:43 PM

19. I'd bet they wouldn't allow transcontinental flights

in their airspace.

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Response to Harker (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:04 PM

28. Who says they will keep their territory?

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:16 PM

17. K&R!

Thank you.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 01:36 PM

18. I don't understand why people are so determined to believe they'll succeed. Why no strategies

toward solutions?

Aren't there votes to get on S1?

Aren't there big corps withdrawing funds from the Republican 146?

Aren't there at least ten Repubs in the Senate who want to preserve democracy?

Don't we have ideas about how to stop these statehouses? Aren't there courts? The ACLU? National Lawyers Guild? Liberal nonprofit think tanks? Unions?

What is happening in this thread?

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Response to ancianita (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:28 PM

26. I certainly hope that major things are going on behind the scenes.

I'm not seeing a lot of signs of it though, and recent history doesn't fill me with optimism.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 09:38 AM

42. Joe Manchin is currently crushing my hopes and dreams for passage of critical

Democrat sponsored legislation that will save democracy, and other desperately needed solutions, such as President Biden's infrastructure plan.

I can't speak for anyone else.

There aren't any Republicans who wish to preserve democracy. They are fascists.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #18)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:40 AM

46. What's happening in this thread? Total doom and gloom. Hartman always paints the darkest

Scenarios. I never listen to him, and usually don’t bother posting in these threads

Ppl need to stop acting like we have no power or options..that simply isn’t true

Thx for your positive post

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:03 PM

23. "Democracy is not important" - Sen. Mike Lee

Verbatim

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Response to 1cheapbeemr (Reply #23)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 02:59 PM

27. "Truth is not truth" - Rudy Giuliani nt


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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 03:21 PM

29. Has Democratic party leadership spoken out against what's going on in AZ?

Is there any outrage or are we just ignoring it cuz we think talking about it will legitimize it? Aren't we concerned that the GOP is setting precedent to pull these kinds of stunts in the future? Yes, it's five months after the election this time, but what about next time? What do we do when they demand to re-count the votes the day after the election?

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #29)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:42 AM

47. AZ Dems filed a suit late Friday night. The judge ruled that the count had to stop

a few hours later the judge recused himself due to the fact that an individual that had clerked for him was involved in the count. As soon as another judge is assigned, this nonsense will stop.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 04:14 PM

30. Dangerous times we're in

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 06:55 PM

31. QOPee LOVES Cancel Culture, when it comes to canceling

The right of minorities to vote.

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Mon Apr 26, 2021, 09:02 PM

35. makes sense

“… If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” 
― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic  2019

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 12:57 AM

36. Sit back and watch these stupid fucks cancel themselves

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #36)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:43 AM

48. ☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 01:44 AM

37. K&R

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 03:14 AM

38. K & R

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 08:25 AM

39. You Can't Say We Weren't Warned...

Former UCLA professor Phillip Agre wrote back in August of 2004 the following: "Liberals in the United States have been losing political debates to conservatives for a quarter century. In order to start winning again, liberals must answer two simple questions: what is conservatism, and what is wrong with it? As it happens, the answers to these questions are also simple:

Q: What is conservatism?
A: Conservatism is the domination of society by an aristocracy.
Q: What is wrong with conservatism?
A: Conservatism is incompatible with democracy, prosperity, and civilization in general. It is a destructive system of inequality and prejudice that is founded on deception and has no place in the modern world.

These ideas are not new. Indeed they were common sense until recently. Nowadays, though, most of the people who call themselves "conservatives" have little notion of what conservatism even is. They have been deceived by one of the great public relations campaigns of human history. Only by analyzing this deception will it become possible to revive democracy in the United States."
You can find the rest here: https://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/agre/conservatism.html

Then there was Joe Lyles aka "The Conceptual Guerilla" who also told us what they had in mind and why:
"When you cut right through it, right-wing ideology is just "dime-store economics" - intended to dress their ideology up and make it look respectable. You don't really need to know much about economics to understand it. They certainly don't. It all gets down to two simple words.

"Cheap labor". That's their whole philosophy in a nutshell - which gives you a short and pithy "catch phrase" that describes them perfectly. You've heard of "big-government liberals". Well they're "cheap-labor conservatives".

"Cheap-labor conservative" is a moniker they will never shake, and never live down. Because it's exactly what they are. You see, cheap-labor conservatives are defenders of corporate America - whose fortunes depend on labor. The larger the labor supply, the cheaper it is. The more desperately you need a job, the cheaper you'll work, and the more power those "corporate lords" have over you."


He also told you what the end game was as well.

"Forewarned is forearmed" and "A tactic perceived is a tactic defeated." Now that we know, what are we going to do about it?

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Response to DAngelo136 (Reply #39)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 01:24 PM

50. To answer your last question, nothing.

"Liberals in the US have been losing political debates to conservatives for a quarter century."

The GOP has more successfully defined our party than we have. Tax & spend democrats. Party of big government. Socialists. We let the other side control the narrative all of the time. It's like we don't believe in marketing.

Tax & spend democrats. Why didn't we come back with tax CUT & spend republicans?

Big government democrats. Where are the charts showing how government & spending actually grow more under repubs.

Socialist democrats. Why don't we challenge socialism for the wealthy & corporations? Where are our ads pointing out the socialist nature of fire departments, libraries, public schools, etc.?


Where the fuck is our marketing department?

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Response to thomhartmann (Original post)

Tue Apr 27, 2021, 10:22 AM

43. Thom has warned us for years about this. The only difference now is they don't try and hide it.

Republicans are natural born followers. After 8 years of competent government under Obama their heads exploded and went full in on authoritarianism.

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