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Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:22 PM

...and not one young man was shot



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Reply ...and not one young man was shot (Original post)
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 OP
Fix The Stupid Apr 2021 #1
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #4
StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #6
Fix The Stupid Apr 2021 #8
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #10
StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #11
Bettie Apr 2021 #13
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #16
Fix The Stupid Apr 2021 #18
Bettie Apr 2021 #20
Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #19
StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #24
Ace Rothstein Apr 2021 #25
uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22
-misanthroptimist Apr 2021 #23
brush Apr 2021 #2
BGBD Apr 2021 #7
ret5hd Apr 2021 #3
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #5
ret5hd Apr 2021 #9
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #12
ret5hd Apr 2021 #14
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #15
ret5hd Apr 2021 #17
LanternWaste Apr 2021 #21

Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:28 PM

1. Staged...this is fake.



C'mon...

I read right here that only white people get arrested and not shot and killed.

I guess that's why the prisons are so empty...

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Response to Fix The Stupid (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:31 PM

4. Somebody will say no weapon in their hands

Missing that 3800 pound blacked out weapon.

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Response to Fix The Stupid (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:40 PM

6. Who has said that "only white people get arrested and not shot and killed"

No one here, as far as I can tell, has ever said that white people never get killed or that no Black person is ever just arrested and or makes it out alive. The point is that Black people are DISPROPORTIONATELY killed more than white people and white people are FAR MORE LIKELY to not to be shot and killed. Showing a video in which cops actually seem to be behaving the way they're supposed to behave in this situation in no way proves that Black people are not generally subjected to harsher treatment by the police than white people are.

Sometimes men get raped, but pointing to an instance in which a man was raped as proof that women aren't far more likely to be raped than men and have much more reason to fear being raped in situations in which a man has no such fear would be stupid.

Just as stupid as the gaslighting argument being attempted here.

You might want to fix that while you're at it.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:43 PM

8. lol..."gaslighting"... oh the irony. n/t

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:48 PM

10. I'm not trying to "prove" anything

Only pointing out some police officers do their jobs correctly.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #10)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:49 PM

11. Uh-huh

I didn't say YOU were trying to prove anything. Read the post I was responding to.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:04 PM

13. +1 It is about frequency, not one stop

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter

Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than white Americans to be killed by police, according to a new study by researchers from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The researchers examined 5,494 police-related deaths in the U.S. between 2013 and 2017. Rates of deadly police encounters were higher in the West and South than in the Midwest and Northeast, according to the study. Racial disparities in killings by police varied widely across the country, with some metropolitan areas showing very high differences between treatment by race. Black Chicagoans, for example, were found to be over 650% more likely to be killed by police than white Chicagoans.

The wide variance in deaths by police shows how preventable these deaths are, study authors Jaquelyn Jahn and Gabriel Schwartz, recent graduates from the Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences, told UPI in a June 24 article.

The study was published online June 24, 2020 in PLOS ONE.

Read UPI article: Study: Black Americans 3 times more likely to be killed by police

See coverage from Harvard FXB Center and Fox 32 Chicago


Yes, it's 2013-2017, but I doubt the incidence has trended toward equality in the last couple of years.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:12 PM

16. The testiness from that video

Wow

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Response to Bettie (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:20 PM

18. Lol...at this "study"...


https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0229686

"Of the included 5494 fatalities involving police from 2013–2017, 2353 (42.83%) of the decedents were White, 1487 (27.07%) were Black, 939 were Latinx (17.09%), and 168 (3.06%) were other race/ethnicities, while 547 lacked data on race/ethnicity"

42% of the people shot by cops in this "study" were white.
27% of the people shot by cops were black.

You can parse the rest all you want, use some math tricks to get to your intended conclusion, but that stat right there ends all debate.

Go ahead, write a wall of text, call me names, etc., but there it is....


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Response to Fix The Stupid (Reply #18)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:29 PM

20. And look at the percentages of each race in the population

You know, never mind.

You will never, ever see it, because you choose not to.

Here is the data though: https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219

76.3% of the US population is white.

13.4% African American

18.5% Hispanic/Latino

So, the vast majority of people are white, 42% of the people shot by cops were white.

Meanwhile, 27% of the people shot by cops were Black, but they make up 13.4% of the population.

I don't expect you to understand why this is problematic and I'm done replying to you.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #13)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:22 PM

19. But Chicago, for example, is going to have disparities when you take into account who is committing

Blacks commit somewhere around 70% of violent crimes in Chicago whereas Whites around 4%. So the police will have a lot more encounters with Black perpetrators than White perpetrators.

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Response to Ace Rothstein (Reply #19)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 06:11 PM

24. ...

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #24)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 06:22 PM

25. Where did I say that?

You seem to like putting words into people's mouths (posts).

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 03:38 PM

22. That's a petulant response to one of the threads here lately

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 04:12 PM

23. Who has said that? Virtually nobody.

Hope that helps.

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Response to brush (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:41 PM

7. Ummmm

white skin?

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:33 PM

5. I'm being stalked



You just saw one

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:46 PM

9. You cited a paper, then derisively stated...

“Not that you’d read it”. ... but I did, and the paper said nothing that you claimed it did...so, I ask again, “still waiting” for you to show me where in the paper (which you so obviously read because it would be so ludicrous to think that you hadn’t read it after ridiculing someone else for not reading it) is the information you claimed.

As for stalking...well, it is obvious we both have interest in this subject, albeit from different perspective. I don’t think it is very suspicious that we end up in the same threads.

FTP
ACAB

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #9)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 01:58 PM

12. I went back

You know you are right I was reading several articles on how traffic stops deter some violent crime.

I am looking for that one now.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:05 PM

14. Several? Great! Links to all please.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #15)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:20 PM

17. Well, that's hardly a "paper". A press release...

but not a paper.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Original post)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:33 PM

21. Still tying to make fetch happen, eh?

Good luck!

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