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Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:02 PM

I've been hesitant to ask this, but any thoughts on Chauvin

committing a slow purposeful murder of a black man, in front of many witnesses in broad daylight, with the intention of launching a race war? I mean, that's the only motive that makes sense to me. I'm immensely relieved that he was found guilty; but there never was an answer to 'why'.

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Reply I've been hesitant to ask this, but any thoughts on Chauvin (Original post)
70sEraVet Apr 2021 OP
Ocelot II Apr 2021 #1
YDogg Apr 2021 #3
TwilightZone Apr 2021 #5
prodigitalson Apr 2021 #16
spooky3 Apr 2021 #2
MyOwnPeace Apr 2021 #6
soothsayer Apr 2021 #7
Shermann Apr 2021 #4
Spazito Apr 2021 #10
StarfishSaver Apr 2021 #8
obnoxiousdrunk Apr 2021 #9
niyad Apr 2021 #11
dflprincess Apr 2021 #12
Politicub Apr 2021 #13
Hoyt Apr 2021 #14
Raine Apr 2021 #15

Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:03 PM

1. No. He was just a bad cop.

There is no "why" other than that he had a complete lack of the most basic concern for the people he arrested. He had a history of complaints against him.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:06 PM

3. I concur

nt

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:18 PM

5. Agreed.

It's really not any deeper than that.

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Response to Ocelot II (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 12:08 PM

16. and a history of impunity.

It was an ego driven power trip from beginning to end, and of the variety I'm sure he was accustomed to getting away with consequence free. He may never have killed before (may).

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:05 PM

2. My hypothesis (and there has been some evidence to support this) is

that he has been abusing people of color and maybe others for years, and has not been held to account. So his ego and belief he could act with impunity just continued to grow, to the point that what seems unimaginable to some of us was just another day on the job to him.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:19 PM

6. Yep, I agree.....

Nothing 'deep' here - he was just a miserable SOB that had a deep history of hate and thought he had the power to get away with it.
I'm sure he's well into 'self-reflection' now - how will he ever survive his new "HELL!"

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:19 PM

7. Yes plus showing off for the trainees? Personal grudge?

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:17 PM

4. Why look for the unicorn when it's just a horse?

I think I have a handle on the motive. It's well understood that police use pain compliance to control people, but that's not really what this was. This was different. I believe Chauvin was using a dirty technique to sap all energy out of Floyd. I recognized it from my high school wrestling days, we would sometimes use a mix of legal and semi-legal moves to put weight on opponents and obstruct their airways. This saps their energy reserves so that they are weakened and can then be more easily pinned. I think this was part of Chauvin's repertoire. When you are tasked with bringing in a man of Floyd's stature, one might be tempted to look for these shortcuts. Police are not trained to do that per se, so he was not following procedures and being lazy and cruel and extremely reckless with it. It's just a hunch. I don't believe he intended to kill the man.

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Response to Shermann (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:47 PM

10. He didn't care if he killed George Floyd...

that was obvious in every way.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:22 PM

8. No.

I don't believe his thinking is that sophisticated. I think he's just an abuser, bully and power freak who got mad when a Black guy didn't kowtow to him and decided to teach him a lesson - something he'd probably done many times in the past - and he was damned if he was going to let some do-gooder Black and Brown bystanders tell him how to do his job.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:40 PM

9. No.

Just a power trip.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:19 PM

11. In addition to the obvious, that chauvin is a disgusting, murdering, racist, power tripping sadist,

I believe there was some personal grudge. The two men worked security at the same club. Not sure that was fully explored.

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Response to niyad (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

12. I have wondered about that myself.

A personal grudge, or Floyd knew something that Chauvin didn't want made public.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:25 PM

13. I doubt it. He's racist as hell, but comes across as kind of a dumbass.

A psychopathic dumbass, who was drunk with the power of feeling the life drain from a person underneath his knee.

A race war is a white concept, though. So who knows?

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:54 PM

14. If so, he failed. The poll cited here today found only 13% thought he's not guilty.

I think he stayed on Floyd’s neck to show the bystanders he could, which is really a racist act of intimidation more destructive than just killing one man.

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Response to 70sEraVet (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:17 PM

15. No, I think Chauvin had a personal grudge against Floyd

they worked at the same nightclub together doing security. I believe I heard they had run ins before,
it's surprising it didn't come up during the trial but for whatever reason it didn't.

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