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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:56 PM

Manchin question here

Do the people of west Virginia support Joe Bidens plan? ( i thought they did) If so why don't THEY put pressure on Manchin?

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Reply Manchin question here (Original post)
bluestarone Apr 2021 OP
mucifer Apr 2021 #1
Blue Owl Apr 2021 #2
Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #5
Blue Owl Apr 2021 #7
Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #10
Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #19
Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #24
Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #26
lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #6
WarGamer Apr 2021 #15
Hotler Apr 2021 #27
WarGamer Apr 2021 #28
Hotler Apr 2021 #29
TDale313 Apr 2021 #3
bluestarone Apr 2021 #4
Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #18
Efilroft Sul Apr 2021 #25
Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #22
tritsofme Apr 2021 #8
bluestarone Apr 2021 #9
Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #17
UCmeNdc Apr 2021 #11
bluestarone Apr 2021 #12
PortTack Apr 2021 #13
WarGamer Apr 2021 #14
Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #16
Dawgman49 Apr 2021 #20
bluestarone Apr 2021 #21
FBaggins Apr 2021 #23

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:58 PM

1. IF manchin is being bribed by someone wealthy. (Big IF I know) then the people of WV don't matter

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:05 PM

2. I hope the people of WV are like the people of GA in the next election

Show Manchild the door!

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:11 PM

5. Then you get a GOP and we lose the majority...for heavens sake consider we need more Senators.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:18 PM

7. Sorry I keep forgetting that Manchin isn't a Republican

Canít figure out why I keep forgetting that...

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:46 PM

10. I can't either because if he was Mitch McConnell would be in charge and there would have been

no rescue package which Manchin voted for. Also, Manchin voted to save the ACA during the Trump administration...without his vote the ACA would be gone. We will be damned lucky to keep the House and the Senate in 22 so consider that. And I have seen the same sort of posts about other moderate Democrats who are now replaced by Republicans. Mary Landrieu, Blanche Lincoln, Roland Burris, Evan Bayh, Byron Dorgan, Arlen Spector, Russ Feingold, Mark Begich, Mark Pryor, Mark Udall (Corey Gardner held he seat until 2020 12 years),Tom Harkin, John Walsh, Kay Hagen, Tim Johnson and Jay Rockefeller. More recently, we lost Claire McCaskill, Heidi Heitcamp, Joe Donnelly and Doug Jones.

Please note that Ted Kennedy was replaced Scott Brown who was later replaced by Sen. Warren...but the Massachusetts seat and the Colorado seat are the only ones listed that we have gotten back...all others remain with the GOP as will Manchin's seat when he leaves. Rockefeller was from WVA you know...so maybe look at the Democratic senatorial carnage since 2010 that we have faced and then tell me you think if Manchin leaves it would be a good thing. It wouldn't. It would be one more seat that is lost to us for decades.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:34 PM

19. Without voting rights bill, Dems lose majorities in 22 regardless, so punishing Manchin is a must.

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 08:55 AM

24. I don't necessarily agree with that. I think we need to work on strategies to win if we can't

get a bill-using the courts and public opinion...corporate boycotts etc...sometimes when you try to stop folks they become more determined and only close elections can be stolen IMHO. I am not ruling out some sort of voting bill yet either.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #24)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:27 AM

26. When the state legislature has the power to replace election boards on a whim

Any election can be stolen, not just close ones.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:15 PM

6. More likely, threatened with Kompromat.

We need to learn to play that game, too.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:22 PM

15. The wealthy are the ones who'll get RICH from an infrastructure Bill.

Who owns those construction firms, etc? Who owns most of their stock?

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #15)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:03 AM

27. Damn straight, there will be a shit load of money scammed off of the infrastructure bill.

I'm surprised the repugs aren't jumping all over it in support, it will be easy pickens.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #27)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 04:05 PM

28. Bezos, Gates, Zuckerberg, Musk and Buffet will make (more) Billions

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #28)

Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:50 AM

29. I was thinking more along the lines of construction contractors, suppliers, etc.

But hey, we can bunch'em all together.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:05 PM

3. Vote Dem 2022. Make him irrelevant.

He only has this level of power right now cause the numbers are so tight. Letís get a few more Senate seats so no one Senator has this level of control.

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:09 PM

4. True words

Hard to believe that not even one senate QTHUG would support our GREAT Democracy!

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:32 PM

18. 2022 will be too late if voting rights doesn't pass- Dems lose their majorities for a decade or more

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Response to Fiendish Thingy (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:11 AM

25. Honest to goodness, I don't know why more people on this site don't get that.

The sensible woodchucks think that the Democrats are magically going to get out the vote in 2022 and pick up a few more senators to make Manchin irrelevant, and that we should presently be happy and content that Senator Hoopie has a D after his name.

If Manchin (and Sinema) doesn't accede to making changes to the filibuster and prevents the For the People Act from passing, it's lights out for Team Donkey. Lights. Out. We will see voter suppression and vote nullification in Republican-controlled states like never before, all because we had to cater to Manchin's overinflated sense of self-importance.

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Response to TDale313 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 06:31 PM

22. May be hard to do if the new voter suppression laws are in place.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:21 PM

8. Joe Biden didn't even crack 30% in WV, if that answers your question.

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:23 PM

9. True BUT

I feel he has MORE support Now! (maybe more than we think?)

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Response to tritsofme (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:31 PM

17. And yet, infrastructure and voting rights both have bipartisan, majority support w/voters. Nt

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:57 PM

11. I do not get Manchin. He can be a WV hero

Get some big government infrastructure projects going within the state. Put his WV voters back to work and take credit for it. What is Joe Manchin thinking about?

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Response to UCmeNdc (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:01 PM

12. You know what?

I feel the same here. He could help so many people even in his OWN STATE! ( i'm sure they support this plan). Does someone own him? I'm not sure. Like you i just don't get it!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:14 PM

13. The WV gov did come out in favor of $15 min wage, but didn't change manchin's mind

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:21 PM

14. probably not a yes/no question.

Would they support new highway rest stops, communications infrastructure... sure.

The rest of the Proposal? IDK, need to ask them.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:30 PM

16. They are- poor People's Campaign recently organized around $15 min wage, and Rev. Barber

Who runs PPC, is gearing up to fight for voting rights.

Manchin faces a long, hot summer with thousands of vaccinated constituents in the streets of WV.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:40 PM

20. Town hall blitz

Dems need to set up town halls by admin cabinet members, Pete for transportation, and others across WV.. sell this to the people.. let them see the potential benefits to their third world state... then lay it on his shoulders...let them see who he works for...nra...GQP... they canít all be that stupid

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Response to Dawgman49 (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:45 PM

21. Possible good idea!

Wouldn't hurt !! I feel Joe Biden has more support there than Joe Manchin does.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 06:45 PM

23. Wrong question

The real question is "even IF they support the plan. Are they willing to get rid of the filibuster to do so?"

The answer to that is almost certainly no.

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