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Eugene

(61,819 posts)
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:05 PM Apr 2021

Chauvin's attorney argues Floyd saying, 'I can't breathe,' was a form of resisting arrest

Source: Washington Post

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Chauvin’s attorney argues Floyd saying, ‘I can’t breathe,’ was a form of resisting arrest

By Timothy Bella, Kim Bellware and Meryl Kornfield
April 7, 2021 at 6:16 p.m. EDT

Testimony in the trial of Derek Chauvin continued Wednesday with the former officer’s defense team arguing that George Floyd saying, “I can’t breathe,” while police attempted to load him into the squad car was a form of resisting arrest.

Later in the day, Chauvin attorney Eric J. Nelson played indiscernible body-cam audio and claimed Wednesday that Floyd said, “I ate too many drugs.” Los Angeles Police Sgt. Jody Stiger, a paid witness for the state, said he could not make out what Floyd said, while James Reyerson, a special agent with the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said the clip sounded more like, “I ain’t do no drugs.”

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5:26 p.m.

Defense requested second search of police vehicle, with focus on drugs

By Meryl Kornfield and Timothy Bella

A forensic scientist in charge of the crime scene testified that Chauvin’s defense team requested that investigators search the police car Floyd was forced into because of a white pill found on the floor in the back seat.

McKenzie Anderson, crime scene team leader at the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, said she did not originally collect the pill in the police car as evidence but gathered it as part of the case when she reprocessed the car after the defense had asked. The substance was not identified during her testimony.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/07/derek-chauvin-trial/
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Chauvin's attorney argues Floyd saying, 'I can't breathe,' was a form of resisting arrest (Original Post) Eugene Apr 2021 OP
So they planted a pill soothsayer Apr 2021 #1
whether they planted a pill or not wont matter drray23 Apr 2021 #2
No, you hamhock! It was resisting being murdered! Aristus Apr 2021 #3
That Alice In Wonderland "logic" I've seen before. no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 #4
He was resisting being murdered, not being arrested. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #5
He Was In Cuffs ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #6
Chauvin dragged Floyd out of the cop car after the other cops had already put him there, sop Apr 2021 #9
Agreed! ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #11
And the myth if someone can talk they can breathe alphafemale Apr 2021 #7
What a jackass. I imagine he's making quite an impression on the jury. marble falls Apr 2021 #8
Where did this fool get his law degree? liberaltrucker Apr 2021 #10
So far, I don't reckon I see a capital crime PCIntern Apr 2021 #12
"Dying" is another, ultimate, form of resisting arrest. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2021 #13
wtaf? area51 Apr 2021 #14

drray23

(7,619 posts)
2. whether they planted a pill or not wont matter
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:15 PM
Apr 2021

How can they prove that this pill was dropped by Floyd ? It could have been anybody else who sat in the back or
of course planted by a cop. There is no chain a custody for it. Its just nonsense.
On top of it, its completely irrelevant to Chauvin murdering him later on.

no_hypocrisy

(46,030 posts)
4. That Alice In Wonderland "logic" I've seen before.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:20 PM
Apr 2021

Child Protection unlawfully removed the five children of my client, who was a victim of domestic violence.

We went to trial as Child Protection was fervently trying to terminate the parental rights of my client.

Their argument: My client neglected her children solely because she "abandoned" them after Child Protection removed them. Note: She never missed a visitation with her children and tried to keep in contact with them notwithstanding the efforts of Child Protection and their cohorts, the foster family.

ProfessorGAC

(64,865 posts)
6. He Was In Cuffs
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:25 PM
Apr 2021

He had already been in the cop car.
He couldn't be resisting arrest. He was already arrested.
Stupid argument.

sop

(10,106 posts)
9. Chauvin dragged Floyd out of the cop car after the other cops had already put him there,
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:54 PM
Apr 2021

handcuffed and under arrest. The only reason Chauvin dragged him back out was to punish him.

ProfessorGAC

(64,865 posts)
11. Agreed!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:26 AM
Apr 2021

So, if he was already under arrest, was in the squad, and was handcuffed, he couldn't have been resisting arrest.
He was already arrested.
The fact that it's not certain he even did anything to warrant arrest is a separate, but important factor.
I've been pushing the notion that with no evidence Floyd willfully passed a bad bill, he was a victim of counterfeiting, not a counterfeiter.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
7. And the myth if someone can talk they can breathe
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:33 PM
Apr 2021

You can still choke out some words and still not be getting oxygen to maintain consciousness or life.

It is not the same as someone having their airway completely cut off by food. A person can pass no air or speak at all in that case.

Not the same as an external choking.

Also Chauvin was mainly cutting off the blood flow to the brain, not the airway.

PCIntern

(25,490 posts)
12. So far, I don't reckon I see a capital crime
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:29 AM
Apr 2021

And the last I looked, police were not hired as part-time executioners. But what do I know?

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,325 posts)
13. "Dying" is another, ultimate, form of resisting arrest.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:59 AM
Apr 2021

Chauvin, you let another one get away. No doughnut for you.

(or, maybe they'll have doughnuts in prison)

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