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108 replies	Author	Time	Post
Posting without comment (Original post)	Stinky The Clown	Wednesday	OP
OMG	lagomorph777	Wednesday	#1
I can't stop crying...n/t	diverdownjt	Wednesday	#81
Corporate compassion?	George McGovern	Wednesday	#2
Aren't these franchised? Could be an individual act of compassion.	Auggie	Wednesday	#21
That's true. nt	reACTIONary	Wednesday	#83
...	hlthe2b	Wednesday	#3
Nothing like tasty pizza and water? A small soft drink would be nicer. n/t	SheilaAnn	Wednesday	#4
Seriously?	Scrivener7	Wednesday	#5
Check this out for a diversion	TheBlackAdder	Wednesday	#47
No good deed goes uncriticized	Hekate	Wednesday	#9
My gran used to say, "there's one in every crowd."	littlemissmartypants	Wednesday	#13
The cup of water had better have some ice in it or there will be hell to pay, right?	George II	Wednesday	#56
And a slice of lemon	Hekate	Wednesday	#69
And some Parmesan cheese and crushed chile sprinkles	BunnyMcGee	Wednesday	#84
Vintage DU	BannonsLiver	Wednesday	#15
Vintage.	Cafe Cat	Wednesday	#32
So right.	Treefrog	Wednesday	#38
Yep, PONY !!!	uponit7771	Wednesday	#89
Water is much healthier	colorado_ufo	Wednesday	#26
No it doesn't.	Mosby	Wednesday	#43
Thanks for these links.	ShazzieB	Wednesday	#74
It is still non nutritious.	colorado_ufo	Wednesday	#88
The cost of a drink	DENVERPOPS	Wednesday	#27
it has been many years since I worked in a place with fountain drinks...	Orangepeel	Wednesday	#42
You are right	DENVERPOPS	Wednesday	#49
so you are saying that restaurants no longer pay for bags of syrup	Orangepeel	Wednesday	#54
I have no idea about individual restaurants, or bars.	DENVERPOPS	Wednesday	#57
I was just going to say the clean line must have been Coors.	gldstwmn	Wednesday	#67
They count cups to "true up" sales.	Mosby	Wednesday	#77
You drink beer made from syrup and filled with ice at ball games???	marble falls	Wednesday	#71
No.	Mosby	Wednesday	#78
Water is WAY better for people than a soft drink.	Treefrog	Wednesday	#35
Water is better for you anyway...	cannabis_flower	Wednesday	#59
It's Not The Carbonation	ProfessorGAC	Thursday	#107
Water is better for your health . . .	peggysue2	Wednesday	#68
Flog them for insufficient good deeding??????	Stinky The Clown	Wednesday	#72
Might that be the way to signal you're asking for the free meal?	Iris	Wednesday	#75
Soft drink full of sugar or artificial sweetener 👎 NO! nt	Raine	Wednesday	#90
Soft drinks are Full of chemicals	Karma13612	Thursday	#94
Wow, really?!	Luciferous	Thursday	#96
Sure he cured my blindness	RVN VET71	Thursday	#99
Little Caesars founder Mike Ilitch quietly paid Rosa Parks' rent for years.	nykym	Wednesday	#6
I had no idea.	FalloutShelter	Wednesday	#7
Yup. With Ilitch at the helm for so long, it is not surprising Little Caesars	cyndensco	Wednesday	#18
His kids are good people, too.	Kid Berwyn	Wednesday	#44
Exactly. LC has LONG been a class act of social responsibility and justice.	slumcamper	Wednesday	#51
Wow, that's excellent.	JudyM	Wednesday	#61
Governments should redistribute food that doesn't sell	lindysalsagal	Wednesday	#8
Ahem. We are looking at an example of compassion right here	Hekate	Wednesday	#10
A friend of mine struck up a conversation with one of the catering crew after a conference in SF.	BobTheSubgenius	Wednesday	#17
McDonalds	DENVERPOPS	Wednesday	#53
Went crazy? Fighting for food?	Iggo	Wednesday	#86
Pretty much an identical story, except that...	BobTheSubgenius	Thursday	#104
Apologies, I have posted this before. But it fits with this posting.	usaf-vet	Wednesday	#22
well, sometimes the Military looks the other way...and We Win The Battle!	Tommymac	Thursday	#98
Thanks for a great story. One that I had never heard before. Hand salute to "Uncle Wiggly Wings"!	usaf-vet	Thursday	#100
There is a good book about Halvorsen and the Berlin Airlift	Tommymac	Thursday	#106
There are several NGOs who do this and corporations like Panera	JT45242	Wednesday	#25
and yet, this same string has several versions	stopdiggin	Wednesday	#28
Health codes here forbid unsold food from going out to shelters, schools,	yellowdogintexas	Wednesday	#70
It really depends on the local laws	Sympthsical	Wednesday	#87
Have you not heard of the Food Recovery Network? Info in thread:	FSogol	Wednesday	#34
News to me.	Sophiegirl	Wednesday	#60
Lots of restaurants and grocery stores themselves redistribute	PoindexterOglethorpe	Wednesday	#46
Beat me to it...	druidity33	Wednesday	#82
I think this Little Caesars is in Canton, Michigan	Casandia	Wednesday	#11
And they make a damn good thin crust pepperoni pizza	Submariner	Wednesday	#12
Good 'ol reliable pepperoni, my favorite of all time	mezame	Wednesday	#30
❤ Kick. nt	littlemissmartypants	Wednesday	#14
This is fantastic. Here is my experience with corporate restaurants and throwing out food ...	aggiesal	Wednesday	#16
good story... unfortunately...	jcgoldie	Wednesday	#19
See my #31 entry below. ...	aggiesal	Wednesday	#37
A woman here in Victoria is the franchisee for 5 Tim Hortons locations locally.	BobTheSubgenius	Wednesday	#20
To continue with this story ...	aggiesal	Wednesday	#31
When I trap stray cats, I use KFC Original Recipe. They love it--as you saw!	catrose	Wednesday	#80
That's so great!	torius	Thursday	#93
So sweet of you!	catrose	Thursday	#95
Wow! You really do live up to your screen name!	BobTheSubgenius	Thursday	#102
So kind of you! I never thought of it that way, more like "just another day" in an unjust world.	catrose	Thursday	#105
That is a much nicer story than I was expecting.	BobTheSubgenius	Thursday	#101
Jack's Donuts in Indiana helps homeless shelters	Captain Zero	Wednesday	#48
I grew up in Indiana. ...	aggiesal	Wednesday	#73
I'd buy and eat theirs as well, given the opportunity.	BobTheSubgenius	Thursday	#103
Some Timmy's are weird...	SeattleVet	Wednesday	#62
I hate Tim Hortons...all of ours have closed. True story, we went to one in Erie PA or NY...I forget	Demsrule86	Wednesday	#65
35 years ago I loved across the street from a unwed mothers home.	Delmette2.0	Wednesday	#40
What I usually do is ...	aggiesal	Wednesday	#45
I worked at a McDonald's in the 80s.	Chipper Chat	Wednesday	#52
Conspiracy	NJCher	Thursday	#97
That could start something, a local fund me for the homeless	bucolic_frolic	Wednesday	#23
Now I hope that Rachel, Chris or Lawrence, or Joy covers this.......	turbinetree	Wednesday	#24
❤️❤️❤️	flibbitygiblets	Wednesday	#29
When we lived in Denver	mountain grammy	Wednesday	#33
That's a great idea.	NurseJackie	Wednesday	#39
I worked in a fast-food restaurant as a teenager...	NurseJackie	Wednesday	#36
Very kind. Humanity, the essence of real human beings.	Jay25	Wednesday	#41
LC on it!	keithbvadu2	Wednesday	#50
Beautiful.	George II	Wednesday	#55
Mike Ilitch, founder of Little Caesar's, good Democrat	Wednesdays	Wednesday	#58
I know a little about Little Caesars because we go there sometimes and my son is a Red Wings fan	amuse bouche	Wednesday	#63
Good news and I will have to check out in my neighborhood	h2ebits	Wednesday	#64
Well done.	gldstwmn	Wednesday	#66
I stopped buying pizza from Papa Johns when...	mac2766	Wednesday	#76
Aww	Cha	Wednesday	#79
Everybody Eats.	Iggo	Wednesday	#85
Wonderful! 👍 nt	Raine	Wednesday	#91
Not to diminish in any way the hospitable gesture...	Blue Owl	Thursday	#92
K&R	MustLoveBeagles	Thursday	#108

Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:47 AM

lagomorph777 (22,131 posts)

1. OMG

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:20 PM

diverdownjt (533 posts)

81. I can't stop crying...n/t

thx..asshole

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:49 AM

George McGovern (717 posts)

2. Corporate compassion?

What a very good thing to do.

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Response to George McGovern (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:40 PM

Auggie (26,574 posts)

21. Aren't these franchised? Could be an individual act of compassion.

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Response to Auggie (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:05 PM

reACTIONary (3,817 posts)

83. That's true. nt

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:51 AM

hlthe2b (84,987 posts)

3. ...

and

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:51 AM

SheilaAnn (7,844 posts)

4. Nothing like tasty pizza and water? A small soft drink would be nicer. n/t

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:55 AM

Scrivener7 (35,918 posts)

5. Seriously?

This is the DU member formerly known as Squinch.

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Response to Scrivener7 (Reply #5)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:59 PM

TheBlackAdder (20,285 posts)

47. Check this out for a diversion

.

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:12 PM

Hekate (67,882 posts)

9. No good deed goes uncriticized

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Response to Hekate (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:30 PM

littlemissmartypants (14,692 posts)

13. My gran used to say, "there's one in every crowd."

I am never surprised when, what I call the naysayers, show up. Give a lovely post a few replies and within ten or so, they'll be there, holding down the contrarian fort.

Some see the wildflowers on the side of the road and some see the trash.

Stay encouraged, Hekate.

❤

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Response to Hekate (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:18 PM

George II (61,648 posts)

56. The cup of water had better have some ice in it or there will be hell to pay, right?

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Response to George II (Reply #56)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:45 PM

Hekate (67,882 posts)

69. And a slice of lemon

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Response to George II (Reply #56)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:06 PM

BunnyMcGee (238 posts)

84. And some Parmesan cheese and crushed chile sprinkles

Spice of life!

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:32 PM

BannonsLiver (12,041 posts)

15. Vintage DU

10/10

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:32 PM

Cafe Cat (18,726 posts)

32. Vintage.

This is the DU member formerly known as Sugar Smack.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:35 PM

Treefrog (795 posts)

38. So right.

Perfect in so many ways.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:13 PM

uponit7771 (75,837 posts)

89. Yep, PONY !!!

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:58 PM

colorado_ufo (4,629 posts)

26. Water is much healthier

and diabetic-friendly. Pop just dehydrates you.

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Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:52 PM

Mosby (12,160 posts)

43. No it doesn't.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/controversialstand.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/hello-world/amp/

https://www.utdailybeacon.com/opinion/von-hagen-soda-doesn-t-actually-dehydrate-you/article_252e26f0-50c8-11e9-b63f-e757661b852a.html

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Response to Mosby (Reply #43)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:22 PM

ShazzieB (1,099 posts)

74. Thanks for these links.

I hear that all the time and it never made any sense to me. This is quite helpful.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #43)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:04 PM

colorado_ufo (4,629 posts)

88. It is still non nutritious.

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:00 PM

DENVERPOPS (4,413 posts)

27. The cost of a drink

charged by the soft drink manufacturer is determined by the number of soft drink cups that are used.

It therefore costs nothing to give a person water in a plain cup, vs water in a soft drink cup or a soft drink in a soft drink cup....

If you have ever watched someone requesting water at a fast food place, or event, the counter people always give out a plain cup.....
(or more likely make them buy a bottle of water, and then give them a plain cup)

As long as you use your previous cup, a lot of fast food places give you a refill for free, because the refill doesn't cost them a cent..

I laugh when someone tells me the vendor fills the cup up completely with ice so they can use less drink, and hike their profits.

Same with Beer at sports events, etc.......

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:49 PM

Orangepeel (13,720 posts)

42. it has been many years since I worked in a place with fountain drinks...

but that doesn't make sense to me. The place I worked bought bags of syrup, which were hooked up to the fountain and mixed with carbonated water. They also bought cups, but that was a separate expense. Nobody counted cups to figure out what to pay for drinks.

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #42)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:06 PM

DENVERPOPS (4,413 posts)

49. You are right

That is how it worked way way back.

Another interesting thing is about beer at a massive sports or entertainment event......before the rush between periods or half time, the counter people have a shelf under the counter. In many venues they start filling a ton of cups up to twenty minutes before the rush. If you are the first ones in line, you might get a flat, warm beer. The Beer Kegs are placed in a huge refrigerated room a long way from the counter. They run plastic lines up to the counter over a large distance. I used to look at the clear plastic tubing that carries the beer, and all but one brand's lines were gross, crud on the inside walls, mold, etc. It was really gross.......
The one and only brand that cleaned their lines every single week was COORs.........imagine that.......

Concessions charge ludicrous amounts for food and drinks. The concessions are a humongous profit center, with un-fathomable profits for each event..............

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:09 PM

Orangepeel (13,720 posts)

54. so you are saying that restaurants no longer pay for bags of syrup

distributors provide unlimited syrup and then charge for cups? That doesn't make sense.

The profit is huge because soft drinks are mostly tap water and the syrup is pennies per drink

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Response to Orangepeel (Reply #54)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:26 PM

DENVERPOPS (4,413 posts)

57. I have no idea about individual restaurants, or bars.

All I can attest to is mass sporting and entertainment events, and most likely? the larger fast food places.

I remember from my younger years, the syrup coming in "bags" or most often glass gallon jugs for the drug store soda fountains. Now all the containers I have seen for the syrup used in fast food and large events are large stainless steel containers.

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #49)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:42 PM

gldstwmn (2,138 posts)

67. I was just going to say the clean line must have been Coors.

They showed up to clean their lines like clockwork every week when I was in the industry.
And yes sporting events used a cup counting system. And pre poured beers.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #67)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:37 PM

Mosby (12,160 posts)

77. They count cups to "true up" sales.

To account for the amount of beer and soda sold.

Beer is sold in kegs, and soda bags of syrup. The co2 isn't free, retailers buy bottles from the same people who sell other gasses like nitrogen.

Eta usually the equipment is provided by a vendor, coke or Pepsi, who get more sku's because it's their mixing machine.

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 04:28 PM

marble falls (38,837 posts)

71. You drink beer made from syrup and filled with ice at ball games???

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:41 PM

Mosby (12,160 posts)

78. No.

https://www.instacart.com/landing?product_id=1946977&retailer_id=105®ion_id=617558638&utm_medium=sem_shopping&utm_source=instacart_google&utm_campaign=ad_demand_shopping_rp_smart-final&utm_content=accountid-8145171519_campaignid-11401314649_adgroupid-114529450031_device-m&gclid=Cj0KCQjwsLWDBhCmARIsAPSL3_3GX2ZyH-cp_1xTjK8pBBENqNUb6oLLgZ057E_ZfVvguOtVeKqY7kAaAv6TEALw_wcB

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:34 PM

Treefrog (795 posts)

35. Water is WAY better for people than a soft drink.

Good on this location for this effort.

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:33 PM

cannabis_flower (3,397 posts)

59. Water is better for you anyway...

I seldom drink soda because my doctor told me the carbonation can leach calcium out of your bones and other nasty things.

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #59)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:10 PM

ProfessorGAC (47,458 posts)

107. It's Not The Carbonation

It's mostly a cola issue because colas contain varying amounts of phosphoric acid, which adds tartness.
The phosphate anion can interfere with calcium absorption.
The carbonation is just CO2 gas, and that's weaker anion than hydroxyapatite and identical to the carbonate, which are the 2 principal inorganic substituents of bone.
For instance, seltzer or tonic water or most lemon-lime sodas wouldn't be an issue as they have no significant phosphorus content.
There's no chemistry that supports the carbonation as an issue, but the phosphoric interference is real. That said, it's not an issue with moderate consumption. But, people (like my sister in the past) going through 8-12 cans of pop a day is excessive. Ruined her teeth, too!
I don't drink pop because I'm not a sweet beverage guy, and to me, they're all too sweet.
But, if you like an occasional root beer or ginger ale, or Sprite, go ahead and enjoy. It won't hurt you. But, if your concerned about bone density loss avoid colas.

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:44 PM

peggysue2 (7,744 posts)

68. Water is better for your health . . .

than a sugar-on-steroids soda. Whatever is offered is an act of generosity and compassion. The homeless and disenfranchised community is too often rendered invisible.

Cheers to this establishment for doing a good deed!

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 04:42 PM

Stinky The Clown (62,993 posts)

72. Flog them for insufficient good deeding??????

Good lord

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:28 PM

Iris (15,078 posts)

75. Might that be the way to signal you're asking for the free meal?

Without having to explain yourself?

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:15 PM

Raine (26,156 posts)

90. Soft drink full of sugar or artificial sweetener 👎 NO! nt

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 06:43 AM

Karma13612 (2,877 posts)

94. Soft drinks are Full of chemicals

And they often have caffeine and/or make you more thirsty.

Plain water does the body good.

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:46 AM

Luciferous (4,698 posts)

96. Wow, really?!

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Response to SheilaAnn (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:50 AM

RVN VET71 (1,979 posts)

99. Sure he cured my blindness

but he didn’t give me 20/20 vision. Even glasses would have been nice.

Sheesh!

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:59 AM

nykym (2,847 posts)

6. Little Caesars founder Mike Ilitch quietly paid Rosa Parks' rent for years.

... For more than a decade, Ilitch had quietly paid for Rosa Parks' apartment in downtown Detroit, according to CNN affiliate WXYZ. That story came to light thanks to Damon Keith, a Detroit native and federal judge.Feb 15, 2017

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Response to nykym (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:06 PM

FalloutShelter (7,745 posts)

7. I had no idea.

That is great to know. I will def start patronizing them more.

This is the DU member formerly known as Zoonart.

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Response to nykym (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:36 PM

cyndensco (1,656 posts)

18. Yup. With Ilitch at the helm for so long, it is not surprising Little Caesars

continues to have a compassionate side.

Too bad more companies did not share the sentiment.

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Response to cyndensco (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:52 PM

Kid Berwyn (5,723 posts)

44. His kids are good people, too.

I know for certain Denise is a Democrat.

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Response to nykym (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:06 PM

slumcamper (1,338 posts)

51. Exactly. LC has LONG been a class act of social responsibility and justice.

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Response to nykym (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:12 PM

JudyM (20,404 posts)

61. Wow, that's excellent.

Best thing I’ve seen today, thanks for that info. Genuine corporate social responsibility can change the world. One company at a time.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:09 PM

lindysalsagal (14,902 posts)

8. Governments should redistribute food that doesn't sell

At central soup kitchens. Everywhere. But america has no compassion.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:13 PM

Hekate (67,882 posts)

10. Ahem. We are looking at an example of compassion right here

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:33 PM

BobTheSubgenius (8,330 posts)

17. A friend of mine struck up a conversation with one of the catering crew after a conference in SF.

He said the same thing as he watched them tossing food in bags for disposal off-site. He was told that the company had tried that, but got sued for allegedly poisoning someone who ate the leftovers. They settled out of court, which was probably the whole point of the suit.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:09 PM

DENVERPOPS (4,413 posts)

53. McDonalds

used to throw the left overs in the Dumpster and the homeless would go crazy, fighting for the food.
McDucks feared being sued, especially with mayonnaise being used, so they dumped the stuff in the dumpster and then sprayed it with clorox making it un-edible.......

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:41 PM

Iggo (44,163 posts)

86. Went crazy? Fighting for food?

Hmm.

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:19 PM

BobTheSubgenius (8,330 posts)

104. Pretty much an identical story, except that...

McD's did it for a fairly logical reason. The woman in my anecdote was just plain mean. How dangerous is an hour-old doughnut? She could at least let her employees have a leftover pastry, IMO.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:46 PM

usaf-vet (3,564 posts)

22. Apologies, I have posted this before. But it fits with this posting.

I was a military medic. I was taking and break after lunch to get a little sun and fresh air. I watch one of the cooks carrying a LARGE "cookie sheet" pan filled with leftover drummies and chicken wings that were in the chow line at lunch.

He was head to the dumpster to toss them.

Right behind the hospital was an 8 ft chainlink fence. On the other side was a daycare center. Some of the kids were probably kids of military families and neighborhood civilians kids. I yelled at the cook if you are just going to toss them let's give them to the kids that were out playing.

He handed me the tray and said here you do it. So I walked the tray over and slid it under the fence. The kids and the adults with them cleaned the tray in minutes. I took the empty tray back to the kitchen.

The next day I got called to the First Sergeants offices and told never to do that again. That food was government property and it was against regs to dispose of government property without going through proper channels.

This was in the mid-1960s. So we have been doing these things for years.

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Response to usaf-vet (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:02 AM

Tommymac (4,295 posts)

98. well, sometimes the Military looks the other way...and We Win The Battle!

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/sweet-story-berlin-candy-bomber-180965156/
The Sweet Story of the Berlin Candy Bomber
Gail Halvorsen’s efforts made children happy but they also provided the U.S. military with an opportunity

By Kat Eschner
SMITHSONIANMAG.COM
OCTOBER 10, 2017

It all started at Berlin’s Tempelhof Air Field when the pilot met some children, writes historian Kaete M. O’Connell. It was normal for children to ask “Any gum, chum?” or “Any bon-bon?” she writes, but these children didn’t ask for anything. “Taken aback, he offered two sticks of Wrigley’s before departing,” she writes. “Witnessing the excitement this small offering generated as it was passed around and broken into numerous small pieces, the pilot rashly promised to drop candy on his next flight.”

“When asked how they would know which of the huge airplanes was his, he said he would ‘wiggle his wings’ as he approached their position,” writes the Air Force.

Halvorsen lived up to his promise, getting other pilots to donate their candy rations and having his flight engineer rock the airplane during the drop. Things grew from there, as more and more children showed up to catch his airdrops and letters began to arrive “requesting special airdrops at other points in the city,” writes the Air Force. The wiggle was also how Halvorsen got his other nickname: 'Uncle Wiggly Wings.'

After newspapers got wind of what was happening, Halvorsen’s superiors realized what he was doing and the PR opportunity it offered. Chocolate and candy donations began to pour in from the United States. Though Halvorsen himself was recalled by the military for a promotional tour, he had begun an international effort to get candy to the children of West Berlin.

“Halvorsen provided a face for the airlift and the U.S.’s humanitarian mission at large, while successfully enlisting the American public in an early Cold War contest for hearts and minds,” writes O’Connell. “Americans previously weary of continued food aid for Europe eagerly embraced the opportunity to gift candy and chocolate to German children.”

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #98)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 10:39 AM

usaf-vet (3,564 posts)

100. Thanks for a great story. One that I had never heard before. Hand salute to "Uncle Wiggly Wings"!

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Response to Tommymac (Reply #98)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:30 PM

Tommymac (4,295 posts)

106. There is a good book about Halvorsen and the Berlin Airlift

Goes into great detail - good read if you have time. That's where I found this story a few years ago.

Here's the title - not going to link it for obvious reasons, but a search should bring it up... I got it from my library online for EReader, but Amazon and other book sites have it too.

The Candy Bombers: The Untold Story of the Berlin Airlift and America's Finest Hour
by Andrei Cherny (Author)

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:57 PM

JT45242 (540 posts)

25. There are several NGOs who do this and corporations like Panera

Table to table is the example in our community

https://table2table.org/#our-mission

Panera has a corporate policy of giving away the extra food at the end of the day. I was one of the tecahers at our high school who would go on Thursday at close to a local Panera to pick up the stuff that they would otherwise throw away. We were able to give bags of bread, bagels, etc to students for food over the weekend (we were able to target a lot of the Free/Reduced lunch crowd this way) so that we knew that they had some food over the weekend.

Google food rescue in your community to find organizations that you can volunteer or donate to

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Response to JT45242 (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:15 PM

stopdiggin (4,446 posts)

28. and yet, this same string has several versions

of excuses for why organizations "can't" ... To which we should all loudly claim, "BS!!" Can be done .. just requires people willing to deviate from the "easier" path.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #28)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:58 PM

yellowdogintexas (17,932 posts)

70. Health codes here forbid unsold food from going out to shelters, schools,

and other groups/locations needing the food. It is considered a health hazard. Now I am wondering about Panera and other businesses that do give away the leftovers.

This is in Tarrant county Texas; I couldn't tell you if it is statewide.

Someone who wants to sell food prepared in their own home must have a catering license & certified professional kitchen (which involves more expensive equipment than I have or can afford.)
Should I wish to set up a baking business I would be better off finding a church or meeting hall with a professional kitchen and working out an arrangement with them.

I can still bake for private entities, just not professionally.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #28)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:53 PM

Sympthsical (969 posts)

87. It really depends on the local laws

I work for a food distribution company. We often have a lot of left over things that don't get shipped out for various reasons. One thing we cannot give out is any kind of meat. Even though it's frozen and perfectly good, there is absolutely no tolerance for putting it anywhere but the garbage.

Fruits, vegetables, sauces, dry ingredients, etc, are ok. It's not unusual to see, say, a pile of bananas by the door for employees to take on their way out. I know some will take a bunch and donate them to local shelters and things (there's a homeless shelter just down the street).

But if you're caught taking meat out of the warehouse, you're all done. It goes in special dumpsters inaccessible from the outside. It's not about the money- the money's wasted anyway. It's about the liability.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:33 PM

FSogol (41,216 posts)

34. Have you not heard of the Food Recovery Network? Info in thread:

https://www.foodrecoverynetwork.org/what-we-do

Food Recovery Network is the largest student-led movement fighting food waste and working to end hunger in America.

In 2011, Ben, Mia, Cam, and Evan, students at the University of Maryland, College Park noticed good dining hall food was ending up in the trash at the end of the night. By the end of the school year, FRN at UMD had recovered 30,000 meals to DC-area hunger-fighting nonprofits.

During the Spring semester of 2012, the second FRN chapter was founded at Brown University. UMD and Brown soon joined forces with two other campus food recovery programs at University of California, Berkeley and Pomona College.

In May 2013, the Sodexo Foundation provided FRN with founding funding to hire a full-time staff and transition into a professional nonprofit! Since then, we've swept the nation and made higher education the first sector where food recovery is the norm and not the exception.

They collect and redistribute it using safe food handling practices.

Go Terps!

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Response to FSogol (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:37 PM

Sophiegirl (2,326 posts)

60. News to me.

I live in the DC area and was not aware of this group. I’ll have to do some recon on them.

(Oh - and Go NATS!!!)

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #8)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:54 PM

PoindexterOglethorpe (18,899 posts)

46. Lots of restaurants and grocery stores themselves redistribute

unsold food to homeless shelters. The government does not need to be involved. You're ignorant to say "america has no compassion". Try volunteering at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. You'd see vast amounts of compassion.

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Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:31 PM

druidity33 (5,425 posts)

82. Beat me to it...

I work in a grocery store as a cook. Everything that can be redistributed is. Hot foods are an exception, because of food safety regulations, but otherwise we contribute to the larders of 3 separate food pantries in town.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:16 PM

Casandia (414 posts)

11. I think this Little Caesars is in Canton, Michigan

I drive by it when I go to IKEA.

Good for this restaurant!!

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:23 PM

Submariner (11,284 posts)

12. And they make a damn good thin crust pepperoni pizza

with tomato sauce that doesn't leave me with heartburn.

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Response to Submariner (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:28 PM

mezame (280 posts)

30. Good 'ol reliable pepperoni, my favorite of all time

haven't had one of theirs in a darn long time ('cause there's many good individual pie makers out there), so thanks for the reminder. I'll make it a point to seek one out locally.

Also, beer.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:32 PM

littlemissmartypants (14,692 posts)

14. ❤ Kick. nt

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:32 PM

aggiesal (5,905 posts)

16. This is fantastic. Here is my experience with corporate restaurants and throwing out food ...

Last edited Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:28 PM - Edit history (1)

When I was in high school, I used to work at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Each tray of chicken would hold 36 pieces of chicken, and our goal was to have less that a tray of chicken for each original & crispy at the end of the day.

Then we employees would split up the leftovers and take home.

One night we overestimated on the original and we had 4 trays left over (about 144 pieces).
We told our manager, that when this rare occurrence happens, we usually pack up the chicken and give it to the Catholic Carmelite Orphanage that was less than a mile away.

Our manager demanded that we throw away the chicken and that we will not be giving any chicken to anyone.
My co-worker/friend Jerry and I, were pi$$ed.

So on one of our dumpster runs, we took a chicken crate and lined it with aluminum foil and placed it next to the dumpster. We also took several chicken bucket containers and put them in our car.
Then when we took the trays of chicken to the dumpster we dumped it in the lined crate.

When we finished cleaning the store we put the crate in my car and drove to the park, where we took the chicken out of the crate and filled the chicken buckets with the chicken. Threw the crate away, drove to the orphanage and rang the door bell. When the nun answered we gave them the chicken buckets.

That was over 40 years ago, and I'll never forget the heartlessness of our manager, and what Jerry and I were able to do without our manager noticing.

To top this off, I remember Jerry's name for the good that we accomplished.
And for the life of me, I can't remember the managers name. Maybe for the better.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:37 PM

jcgoldie (7,584 posts)

19. good story... unfortunately...

Many corporations now would classify this as stealing. Its not about food for people but my wife works at the tractor supply company. They throw out old dog food and other types of feed in the dumpsters when they are past expiration. She asked if she could just take some from the dumpster home for her laying chickens that produce her farmer's market eggs. Nope if you get caught taking anything from the dumpster its no different than stealing it off the shelf she was told...

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Response to jcgoldie (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:35 PM

aggiesal (5,905 posts)

37. See my #31 entry below. ...

If it's in the dumpster, it's a write-off.
How is that off the shelf?

It wasn't the employees fault that the product didn't sell by the expiration date.
Unless they placed the company order, and intentionally over ordered to create the situation, which usually doesn't happen.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:38 PM

BobTheSubgenius (8,330 posts)

20. A woman here in Victoria is the franchisee for 5 Tim Hortons locations locally.

She seems to be on a mission to destroy the brand, especially with her employees. She extends the time "corporate" mandates for keeping doughnuts on display and then disposing of the. The standing order is to spray everything that goes into the dumpster with bleach.

The employees are NOT allowed to eat any of them, and don't even get a discount on anything but 15% off coffee. To get their slightly-discounted coffee for their break, they have to stand in line with the customers, order the coffee, then wait for a supervisor to OK the discount. If they're lucky, they have time to drink half of it.

My friend worked 2 days, then gave her notice at the start of her 3rd shift, and left for good at the end of it.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:31 PM

aggiesal (5,905 posts)

31. To continue with this story ...

KFC allowed us to drink as much soft-drinks as we wanted (i.e. sodas, soda-water, water, coffee & tea) FREE, under one condition, that we use our own drinking cup. I had a mug.

The soda costs the company about 3¢ per 12 oz. cup while the 12 oz. cup cost about 10¢

Also, again, we were allowed to take home any leftover chicken (original & crispy), but no mash, coleslaw, buns, ...
Usually, the chicken remaining was less than 20 pieces, so between the 3 of us, we would each take home anywhere from 1-6 pieces of chicken.

We had a little kitten, and by little, I mean it could fit in your hand.
I would get home around 10:30pm - 11pm, and I usually rode my bike to work and back.
That kitten had a chicken radar, because my mom would tell me that the kitten would be asleep on her lap,
but hear my bike pulling into the house, leap off my mom's lap and meet me at the door.
I would feed it little pieces of chicken while the kitten sat on my lap.

That Tim Hortons owner should have a place in the jerk owner hall-of-shame.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #31)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:18 PM

catrose (3,840 posts)

80. When I trap stray cats, I use KFC Original Recipe. They love it--as you saw!

I fix & vax & chip the cats and get them adopted (or released, in the case of ferals).

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Response to catrose (Reply #80)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:59 AM

torius (1,598 posts)

93. That's so great!

You are a hero!

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Response to torius (Reply #93)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:44 AM

catrose (3,840 posts)

95. So sweet of you!

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Response to catrose (Reply #80)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:15 PM

BobTheSubgenius (8,330 posts)

102. Wow! You really do live up to your screen name!

KFC aspect or not, that is an exceptional story, at least to me.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #102)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:40 PM

catrose (3,840 posts)

105. So kind of you! I never thought of it that way, more like "just another day" in an unjust world.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:13 PM

BobTheSubgenius (8,330 posts)

101. That is a much nicer story than I was expecting.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:02 PM

Captain Zero (3,038 posts)

48. Jack's Donuts in Indiana helps homeless shelters

with a few donuts at the end of the day.

If you want to buy a franchise for a great donut shop, consider a Jack's Donuts Shop. Jack's is headquartered in Indiana.

( Yes this is a shameless plug, but I have no financial interest in it.) I just buy and eat 'em.

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #48)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:03 PM

aggiesal (5,905 posts)

73. I grew up in Indiana. ...

The KFC was in Hammond just off the Toll Road On/Off on Calumet Ave.

What part of Indiana is Jack's Donuts located?

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #48)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:16 PM

BobTheSubgenius (8,330 posts)

103. I'd buy and eat theirs as well, given the opportunity.

Bloody good for Jack's!

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:32 PM

SeattleVet (4,561 posts)

62. Some Timmy's are weird...

we went to one in Richmond, BC, a few years ago and got a breakfast to kill some time before we were supposed to meet up with some people. Wife got a juice drink, and paid a $.05 deposit on the bottle (deposit was listed on the receipt).

Right on the bottle it said, "Return for refund". That turned into a very strange encounter with the cashier, and eventually escalated to the manager on duty. They had no idea how to handle a refund on a deposit! It took probably 5 or 10 minutes before the manager finally gave up, opened the register and took out a nickel to give to my wife.

I guess they had been collecting the extra $.05 on every sale of every deposit container, and never had a customer finish the beverage and try to get their deposit back, so they were just pocketing the extra 'profit'.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:38 PM

Demsrule86 (52,860 posts)

65. I hate Tim Hortons...all of ours have closed. True story, we went to one in Erie PA or NY...I forget

And I asked for a chai latte for my daughter and a latte for myself. They must have thought it was funny to stick teabags in a cup of coffee which is what they did. I had every intention of getting off of the highway and going back but my daughter begged me not to...I embarrass her in these situations. My latte sucked too. I called the PR number for the company and they were disinterested and did absolutely nothing. Starbucks would have sent you free drink coupons as would most businesses. I never walked into one again and told everyone what they did.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:45 PM

Delmette2.0 (2,723 posts)

40. 35 years ago I loved across the street from a unwed mothers home.

My two sons and I all came down with the flu. My boys could go through a gallon of milk in no time at all. Of course this was when we had milk delivered in the early morning, no matter what. I had 3 gallons of milk that I knew the boys couldn't drink. So I took it all over to the expectant mothers. They were very grateful for the small assist.

Just look around your community when you have extra food.

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Response to Delmette2.0 (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:54 PM

aggiesal (5,905 posts)

45. What I usually do is ...

when someone at the grocery line in front of me is short on money and has to return some of their food to meet their monetary budget, I let the cashier know that I'll pay for the items they want to return.

I did that at Costco, when a family tried to buy a birthday cake and didn't have to money to pay for it.
So I paid it for them and told the child Happy Birthday.

I usually see this with older people. They are very grateful.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:07 PM

Chipper Chat (8,050 posts)

52. I worked at a McDonald's in the 80s.

We had to throw away all unsold food at closing time. There was an old men's home a block away and we were not allowed to give to them. To this day I can still feel the pain.

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Response to aggiesal (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:51 AM

NJCher (25,801 posts)

97. Conspiracy

To create goodness!

Very humorous and sweet story. I actually scrolled back up the thread to re-read because I enjoyed it so much the first time around. The kitten story was amusing, too.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:47 PM

bucolic_frolic (23,864 posts)

23. That could start something, a local fund me for the homeless

I mean, a lot of customers would donate their spare change. If the company would match ...

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:51 PM

turbinetree (19,660 posts)

24. Now I hope that Rachel, Chris or Lawrence, or Joy covers this.......

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:28 PM

flibbitygiblets (6,773 posts)

29. ❤️❤️❤️

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:32 PM

mountain grammy (22,904 posts)

33. When we lived in Denver

some 25+ years ago, we lived less than a block off East Colfax. There was a Little Ceaser's two blocks down. Their pizza was never my favorite, but I knew for a fact they gave out free slices to the street people.. some were homeless, many lived in the run down motels in the area. For that reason, we ordered pizza from that store at least once a month. Always two pizzas for price of one. One day I was walking out with my two pizzas and saw one of our local street people coming for a slice. I offered him one of my pizzas and said, we really can't eat two. Do you like pepperoni? The thank you and smile I got back were like a million bucks.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #33)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:35 PM

NurseJackie (38,660 posts)

39. That's a great idea.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:35 PM

NurseJackie (38,660 posts)

36. I worked in a fast-food restaurant as a teenager...

... when a customer reported that a "bum" was picking through the trash cans, our manager went outside to talk to him. Back then, I assumed he was going to give him the old heave-ho and threaten to call the police. Instead, he invited him inside and told him to order whatever he wanted for free.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:46 PM

Jay25 (286 posts)

41. Very kind. Humanity, the essence of real human beings.

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:06 PM

keithbvadu2 (20,343 posts)

50. LC on it!

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:17 PM

George II (61,648 posts)

55. Beautiful.

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:31 PM

Wednesdays (13,213 posts)

58. Mike Ilitch, founder of Little Caesar's, good Democrat

This is not surprising.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:34 PM

amuse bouche (3,598 posts)

63. I know a little about Little Caesars because we go there sometimes and my son is a Red Wings fan

Little Caesars founder Mike Ilitch, died a few years ago at 87. He owned the Detroit Tigers and The Detroit Red Wings

He was a great philanthropist. He kept it a secret, that he paid Rosa Parks rent for years

More about that .....

https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/waverlydemocrat/obituary.aspx?n=mike-ilitch&pid=184101766

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:37 PM

h2ebits (296 posts)

64. Good news and I will have to check out in my neighborhood

Thanks for sharing. I donate to a local food bank and will soon be volunteering at it.

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:39 PM

gldstwmn (2,138 posts)

66. Well done.

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:33 PM

mac2766 (434 posts)

76. I stopped buying pizza from Papa Johns when...

They cut employee hours to avoid having to provide health insurance to their full time employees. Haven't paid a dime for their pizza since.

I've never been a fan of Little Caesars pizza, but I just became a fan today. I'm not saying it will be my go-to pizza, but I will certainly purchase pizza from them in the future. Of course, I live in NW Florida. I would hardly think that our local Little Caesars are as generous.

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 05:42 PM

Cha (270,118 posts)

79. Aww

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:37 PM

Iggo (44,163 posts)

85. Everybody Eats.

That’s one of my number one rules.

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:17 PM

Raine (26,156 posts)

91. Wonderful! 👍 nt

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:26 AM

Blue Owl (33,780 posts)

92. Not to diminish in any way the hospitable gesture...

But there are dumpster divers out there who are not starving but just looking to salvage any wasted food — I’ve talked to some who have day jobs and homes and cars, but who are very frugal about paying for food/groceries...

Still, lovely and compassionate if indeed the dumpster diver was in a more desperate situation, you never know...

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:37 PM

MustLoveBeagles (6,956 posts)

108. K&R

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