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ecstatic

(32,532 posts)
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:23 PM Apr 2021

Why is infrastructure next when our democracy is in jeopardy?

Am I missing something?

47 states are trying to make it harder to vote and/or pointless to vote.

Now the QOP is attempting to penalize companies who speak out against the Jim Crow 2 laws. This will likely cause many companies to stay silent on this issue. How is this OK?

This is a 20 alarm fire!

Right now, we have the WH, Senate, and House. The Democratic majority we have in the Senate could be lost at any moment due to a death or unexpected retirement! Move on this NOW!! No more excuses!

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Why is infrastructure next when our democracy is in jeopardy? (Original Post) ecstatic Apr 2021 OP
There's a big 'ol bill in Congress about this. It's a priority too soothsayer Apr 2021 #1
When we lose the majority in 2022 (imo) this project will end Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #19
We're driving over broken down bridges. The entire world MaryMagdaline Apr 2021 #2
If we don't pass voting rights asap, we won't have either. Crunchy Frog Apr 2021 #15
Yea it's hard for me to be excited about any of this with out sb1 Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #20
Can't we do both? Lunabell Apr 2021 #3
+100 I'm with ya on this one! abqtommy Apr 2021 #22
Simple. WarGamer Apr 2021 #4
Because we can walk and chew gum at the same time. NT mahatmakanejeeves Apr 2021 #5
What kind of legislation would fix whats wrong with our democracy? milestogo Apr 2021 #6
Cause ... Procedure? essaynnc Apr 2021 #7
The infrastructure bill should get us votes. Patterson Apr 2021 #8
And There's The Answer ProfessorGAC Apr 2021 #21
From who? I am disenfranchised right now. The GA GOP can toss my blue county's results ecstatic Apr 2021 #23
K&R, if we don't have shit done in another 3 months with HR1 we're going to run out of time ... uponit7771 Apr 2021 #9
Infrastructure rebuilding will strengthen our economy csziggy Apr 2021 #10
The above and THIS. Think of it as a giant infrastructure strategy, Hortensis Apr 2021 #18
Infrastructure can be passed using reconciliation and voting rights can't. meadowlander Apr 2021 #11
We've got to get.people to work and making money. Haggard Celine Apr 2021 #12
We're doing both. onecaliberal Apr 2021 #13
If the unity fantasy has any chance, it will start with infrastructure Shermann Apr 2021 #14
Saw Amy K & Al Franken interviewed regarding HR1/S1. Both said some form of the bill would pass PortTack Apr 2021 #16
We can walk and chew gum at the same time is why Hekate Apr 2021 #17

MaryMagdaline

(6,848 posts)
2. We're driving over broken down bridges. The entire world
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:29 PM
Apr 2021

is leaving us behind in infrastructure. It’s 5O years overdue. We can have both.

WarGamer

(11,973 posts)
4. Simple.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:30 PM
Apr 2021

HR1 will be a war.

Will take months.

And no indication that Manchin and Sinema will throw the filibuster off the cliff.

Strategically smarter to pursue infrastructure now because it's NOT the "Hill to die on" for the GOP

Oh and... Barf, GoodHair, Handmaiden, Sleepy, Scalito and JR will probably toss it in the trash if it were to pass.

mahatmakanejeeves

(56,713 posts)
5. Because we can walk and chew gum at the same time. NT
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:31 PM
Apr 2021

{edited to note that Lunabell expressed the same sentiment}

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
6. What kind of legislation would fix whats wrong with our democracy?
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:31 PM
Apr 2021

I mean what kind of legislation that's likely to get passed?

essaynnc

(791 posts)
7. Cause ... Procedure?
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:32 PM
Apr 2021

I believe that the infrastructure bill can be passed with a simple majority, due to reconciliation, and the HR1 has to overcome the filibuster. Please correct me if I'm incorrect. Let's accomplish a few more good things, then it'll be even more disastrous for the GQP to try to block.

ProfessorGAC

(64,184 posts)
21. And There's The Answer
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 07:02 PM
Apr 2021

Passing a popular bill that creates jobs, improves roads & other travel will get swing voters to want to stay the course!

ecstatic

(32,532 posts)
23. From who? I am disenfranchised right now. The GA GOP can toss my blue county's results
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 07:36 PM
Apr 2021

as they see fit. Where will all these new votes come from? trumpers?

Honestly, if these Jim Crow laws aren't stopped through some sort of federal action before Georgia's next election this fall, I'll view it as a betrayal.

I'm not saying this as a threat, I'm saying I will be genuinely hurt and potentially unable to look past the fact that my right to vote wasn't a priority for the party I worked so hard to elect.

uponit7771

(90,193 posts)
9. K&R, if we don't have shit done in another 3 months with HR1 we're going to run out of time ...
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:36 PM
Apr 2021

... to get through the appeals process's with the courts.

It's being held up with Manchin and the other assholes who have convinced themselves the kGQP still want democracy; they don't.

csziggy

(34,115 posts)
10. Infrastructure rebuilding will strengthen our economy
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:38 PM
Apr 2021

Which will make Democratic candidates more popular and more likely to be elected.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. The above and THIS. Think of it as a giant infrastructure strategy,
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 06:45 PM
Apr 2021

both a giant weapon against the enemy, and to inspire those who've indifferently letting our democracy slip away to believe it's worth holding onto after all.

Haggard Celine

(16,813 posts)
12. We've got to get.people to work and making money.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:45 PM
Apr 2021

That's the people's focus right now. They needed the stimulus to help them through the crisis and the unemployment benefits and now they need jobs. The infrastructure bill will do it in a big way. It's what people need and it will get us votes from a lot of people so that we can overcome those bullshit voting laws.

Shermann

(7,313 posts)
14. If the unity fantasy has any chance, it will start with infrastructure
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:55 PM
Apr 2021

Assuming border security is completely off the table, most of the rest shouldn't be highly partisan.

Roads, bridges, water, schools...it's about America.

That said, I expect some bickering about mass transit and energy.

PortTack

(32,491 posts)
16. Saw Amy K & Al Franken interviewed regarding HR1/S1. Both said some form of the bill would pass
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 06:40 PM
Apr 2021

neither are quick to give lip service. Amy told Rachael they had a plan and did not really expand on it.

It has been discussed by legal scholars that the filibuster is unconstitutional. Maybe that’s the direction they are going. The filibuster is not a law..just senate rules

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