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Outstanding vaccine news (UK) (Original Post) speak easy Apr 2021 OP
and the excess mortality has dropped a lot more for the older age groups muriel_volestrangler Apr 2021 #1
% of what?? How does one get negative %? triron Apr 2021 #2
People are dying less than in an average year Bettie Apr 2021 #3
percent of the excess number of deaths in the age group in that week in past years muriel_volestrangler Apr 2021 #4

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
1. and the excess mortality has dropped a lot more for the older age groups
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 02:42 PM
Apr 2021
https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid



In the first wave, the excess mortality for 85+ peaked at 126%, and decreased as the age group got younger, down to 67% for under 65. BY the 2nd wave, around January, 85+ excess mortality peaked around 40%, while for 65- it was 53% (they're better at treatment now, in general, and older people are probably self-isolating more, plus the first effects of vaccines would just about be noticeable then).

But by March 14, when the vaccination had really had its effect in the old age groups, under 65 it was 15%, 65-74 minus 2% (ie slightly fewer deaths than previous years), 75-84 minus 5%, and 85+ minus 13%. The relative risk of death from Covid (compared to 'normal') has reversed for age groups, thanks to the vaccine.

Bettie

(16,071 posts)
3. People are dying less than in an average year
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 03:19 PM
Apr 2021

probably because they are staying in and not getting sick at all.

I didn't even get a cold this winter, which is really unusual.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
4. percent of the excess number of deaths in the age group in that week in past years
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 03:22 PM
Apr 2021

So a negative number shows fewer people died than the average (I believe it's the average for 2015-19 for that week of the year, without looking it up again). We've almost no flu this winter, so it's this may be an indication that in the oldest age groups, covid is now killing fewer than flu typically does.

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