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Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:01 PM

Italy Pushes Back as Health Care Workers Shun Covid Vaccines (NYT)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/31/world/europe/italy-covid-vaccines-health-workers.html

Italy Pushes Back as Health Care Workers Shun Covid Vaccines
Prime Minister Mario Draghi issued a decree requiring that workers in health care facilities be vaccinated, a move that will test the legal limits of his government’s efforts to stem coronavirus outbreaks.
By Jason Horowitz
March 31, 2021 Updated 10:56 p.m. ET

ROME — Giulio Macciò tested negative for the coronavirus and spent weeks receiving treatment for emphysema in a sealed-off hospital under the care of doctors and lung specialists — and a nurse who had refused to be vaccinated. On March 11, he unexpectedly died. A post-mortem swab found that he had contracted the virus, as had 14 other patients and the unvaccinated nurse who spent her shifts in his midst.

“It makes no sense that a person whose job is to heal the sick gives them Covid and kills them,” said Mr. Macciò’s son, Massimiliano Macciò, who filed a complaint against the San Martino hospital in the northern Italian city of Genoa. He believes that the nurse, one of an estimated 400 who have refused vaccination against Covid-19 at the hospital, infected his father, who died unvaccinated at 79.

As vaccination rollouts build momentum, businesses everywhere are grappling with whether they can require the inoculation of their employees, raising thorny ethical, constitutional and privacy issues around Europe and the United States. But that quandary becomes all the more urgent when the person is your health care worker.

In Italy, the original Western front in the war against Covid, a rash of outbreaks in hospitals where medical workers have chosen not to be inoculated has raised fears that their stance is endangering public health. It has also prompted a forceful response from an Italian government that is struggling to get vaccinations on track.

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Reply Italy Pushes Back as Health Care Workers Shun Covid Vaccines (NYT) (Original post)
dalton99a Mar 31 OP
cinematicdiversions Mar 31 #1
LisaL Mar 31 #3
SheltieLover Mar 31 #5
TomSlick Mar 31 #7
cinematicdiversions Mar 31 #8
LisaL Mar 31 #2
dalton99a Mar 31 #6
cinematicdiversions Mar 31 #9
AllyCat Mar 31 #10
SheltieLover Mar 31 #4
bamagal62 Mar 31 #11

Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:06 PM

1. The real question is why was a 79 year old man unvaccinated?

Perhaps due to his illness, I suppose, but still. This is a tragic story. The unvaccinated are a menace primarily to themselves. But they re also a danger to those that because of medica issues, cannot be vaccinated.

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Response to cinematicdiversions (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:07 PM

3. Italy prioritized health care workers.

Maybe his turn didn't yet come up.

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Response to cinematicdiversions (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:13 PM

5. And to vaccinated people who don't want to encounter mutated forms

Welcome to DU!

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Response to cinematicdiversions (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:16 PM

7. I will allow that why a 97 year old man was not vaccinated is A question.

But for the life of me I cannot understand a health professional going unvaccinated and exposing patients, who be definition are ill and in a weakened position, to a deadly virus.

If I was a hospital administrator, unvaccinated employees would not have access to patients. If there are medical reasons they cannot be vaccinated, they would be placed on administrative duties. If there are no medical reasons they cannot be vaccinated, then they would be discharged.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:22 PM

8. I couldn't agree with you more.

Unfortunately, we are in the minority. And a bevy of laws to protect people unfortunately often protect them over the heath and safety of the public at large.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:06 PM

2. US likely has more health care workers who refuse to be vaccinated.

Number given in the article is 15% for Italy. I am pretty sure US has higher percentage of workers who refuse to get vaccinated.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:13 PM

6. Probably 30% of nurses in the U.S.

According to a survey conducted in October 2020, 37% of nurses stated that they were not confident that a COVID-19 vaccine would be safe and effective, and only 34% agreed that they would voluntarily receive a COVID-19 vaccine.*** Frequently cited reasons for vaccine hesitancy included the perceived rapidity of vaccine development; inadequate information received about vaccine safety, side effects, and administration; and skepticism regarding the clinical trials and vaccine approval processes. Similarly, survey data from December 2020 indicated that nearly one third (29%) of respondents who worked in a health care delivery setting expressed COVID-19 vaccine hesitancy, and updated estimates from January 2021 indicated that hesitancy persisted, with 28% of health care workers indicating a desire to delay receipt of vaccine until they had more information about safety and effectiveness.††† Specifically among LTCF staff members, a November 2020 survey found that only 45% of respondents were willing to receive a COVID-19 vaccine immediately once available, and an additional 24% would consider it in the future; the most frequently identified reason for vaccine hesitancy was concern about side effects (8). High staff member turnover, staff members working in multiple facilities (9), and limited resources for staff member outreach and education (10) are also potential barriers to vaccination in LTCFs.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7005e2.htm

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:23 PM

9. In all fairness peoples attitudes have evolved from October 2020

Seeing the vaccines do so well with virtually no side effects has certainly reduced the number of fence sitters.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:25 PM

10. I, and many of my coworkers, said the same thing in October.

But by December when our chance came up, 98% of our hospital staff opted for vaccinations. There have been no issues. I hear many other counties (all red ones) are having huge numbers of staff refusing. I struggle with mandatory vaccination in an unapproved treatment, but given the nature of the disease, I cannot for the life of me understand why someone would refuse.

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Response to dalton99a (Original post)

Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:29 PM

11. I'm surprised by this.

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