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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:40 AM Oct 2012

Charles Pierce eviscerates Ryan's debate performance.

The Real Paul Ryan Is Bad for America
(Just the last 3 paragraphs)
<snip>
For years, Paul Ryan has been the shining champion of some really terrible ideas, and of a dystopian vision of the political commonwealth in which the poor starve and the elderly die ghastly, impoverished deaths, while all the essential elements of a permanent American oligarchy were put in place. This has garnered him loving notices from a lot of people who should have known better. The ideas he could explain were bad enough, but the profound ignorance he displayed on Thursday night on a number of important questions, including when and where the United States might wind up going to war next, and his blithe dismissal of any demand that he be specific about where he and his running mate are planning to take the country generally, was so positively terrifying that it calls into question Romney's judgment for putting this unqualified greenhorn on the ticket at all. Joe Biden laughed at him? Of course, he did. The only other option was to hand him a participation ribbon and take him to Burger King for lunch.

You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan?

Lipstick.

http://www.esquire.com/_mobile/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-debate-joe-biden-13626962

Heh!
Pierce didn't cut Ryan to ribbons. He shredded him like old Wisconsin cheese!

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Charles Pierce eviscerates Ryan's debate performance. (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Oct 2012 OP
Ryan is as authentic as a 7-dollar bill jsr Oct 2012 #1
Outstanding commentary! CrispyQ Oct 2012 #2
What's the difference between Paul Ryan and Sarah Palin? The Blue Flower Oct 2012 #3
The kiss of Republican FAIL Berlum Oct 2012 #7
I repeat (because your statement is so true) JDPriestly Oct 2012 #9
You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan? Lipstick. Liberalagogo Oct 2012 #10
This is absolutely worth a second K&R. bullwinkle428 Oct 2012 #4
The ENTIRE article is absolutely GREAT! An absolute must read in its entirety! Th1onein Oct 2012 #5
Charlie Pierce Iwillnevergiveup Oct 2012 #6
Damn, it's blocked here at my work! Ishoutandscream2 Oct 2012 #8
Lipstick. sarge43 Oct 2012 #11
What a fabulous piece! mnhtnbb Oct 2012 #12
K & R AzDar Oct 2012 #13
LOL. That piece is a work of art. AtomicKitten Oct 2012 #14
The only other option was to hand him a participation ribbon and take him to Burger King for lunch. bluesbassman Oct 2012 #15
Yeah LyinRyan need to get a real job lark Oct 2012 #16
That was a great line. femrap Oct 2012 #29
Also, he explained winter. magical thyme Oct 2012 #17
For some reason the complexity... Blanks Oct 2012 #23
OMG! Blue Idaho Oct 2012 #18
Dead-on analysis. I, too, noticed his use of foreign words... Beartracks Oct 2012 #19
It was like beauty pageant stuff. Money Boo Boo's Mini Me KurtNYC Oct 2012 #33
LOL @ Money Boo Boo!! Hadn't heard that one. n/t Beartracks Oct 2012 #38
Great piece mrs_p Oct 2012 #20
Excellent!! Thanks for sharing. Window Oct 2012 #21
Damn, that shit was dope! TheKentuckian Oct 2012 #22
Appreciate this straight talk from Pierce. This is exactly what's wrong with Ryan and Romney. freshwest Oct 2012 #24
I disagree. I think there is a huge difference between Palin and Lyin Ryan. rhett o rick Oct 2012 #25
ryan is NOT a smart man. He just plays one in Congress. Raster Oct 2012 #26
+1000. Ryan reminds me of a suitemate I had in college who thought she was gkhouston Oct 2012 #45
To me femrap Oct 2012 #30
Cheney isnt charming at all. nm rhett o rick Oct 2012 #32
I always thought femrap Oct 2012 #43
I agree that Cheney is most likely evil incarnate. rhett o rick Oct 2012 #44
I thought the definition of femrap Oct 2012 #46
k/r Best quote ever... 4_TN_TITANS Oct 2012 #27
This is the best femrap Oct 2012 #28
The best part of this commentary malaise Oct 2012 #31
. n/t porphyrian Oct 2012 #34
"zombie-eyed granny starver" Generic Other Oct 2012 #35
Charles Pierce knows how to eviserate Twit "Zombie-eyed Granny Starver"! nm Cha Oct 2012 #36
boom chakalaka Hoosier Oct 2012 #37
Actually... DirtyDawg Oct 2012 #39
I think Romney, Ryan and Walker would wear lipstick oldbanjo Oct 2012 #40
"Also, he explained winter." n/t mattclearing Oct 2012 #41
You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan? Lipstick. BlueToTheBone Oct 2012 #42
 

Liberalagogo

(1,770 posts)
10. You know what's the difference between Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan? Lipstick.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:35 PM
Oct 2012

That is NOT true.

Sarah Palin wears lipstick.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
6. Charlie Pierce
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 12:02 PM
Oct 2012

and Martin Bashir have gotten to be my 2 favorites! Huge K&R.

By the way, Charlie is on Stephanie Miller every Tuesday morning, and he is awfully funny in regularly skewering these Republicants.

bluesbassman

(19,370 posts)
15. The only other option was to hand him a participation ribbon and take him to Burger King for lunch.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:10 PM
Oct 2012

Perfect, and while he's there maybe Ryan could fill out a job application.

lark

(23,091 posts)
16. Yeah LyinRyan need to get a real job
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

and get off that government teat (in his side's language)

Poor widdle boy, totally outgunned and outclassed.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
17. Also, he explained winter.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:23 PM
Oct 2012



I'd forgotten that moment. I laughed so hard my dogs jumped up and stood staring at me like I'd fallen out of bed or something. The impudence of that ignorant little pipsqueak fool explaining the fighting season to Joe Biden and Martha Raddatz. Unfuckingreal!!!!

And when Raddatz asked him, deftly, what would be worse, another war in the Middle East or Iran with a nuclear bomb, he leaped in precipitously with the latter, while about 75 percent of the country, including the two other people on stage with him, looked at Ryan as though he'd lost his mind. He did, however, demonstrate a certain talent for pronouncing long foreign words that his briefers had taught him on Tuesday. Also, he explained winter.

Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-debate-joe-biden-13626962#ixzz296ehcoGl

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
23. For some reason the complexity...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 02:44 PM
Oct 2012

...of trained Afghan troops replacing American soldiers was too much for him though.

It seems Joe tried to explain the concept to him several times. I'm not sure he ever latched onto the concept. Poor little guy. he was so sure that we didn't understand what was meant by the word 'winter'...

He just knew we would be appalled at the administration if we could just grasp the idea that there was snow in the mountain passes.

I think he was expecting the audience to gasp.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
19. Dead-on analysis. I, too, noticed his use of foreign words...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 01:34 PM
Oct 2012

When Ryan began name-dropping foreign locations it clearly seemed designed only to make him sound smarter than he is on the subject.It was embarrasingly transparent.

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rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
25. I disagree. I think there is a huge difference between Palin and Lyin Ryan.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 04:51 PM
Oct 2012

One that shouldnt be overlooked. Palin is a dimwit and therefore IMO not dangerous. Lyin Ryan IMO is very smart, he is just a mean sociopath. Dont underestimate him.

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
45. +1000. Ryan reminds me of a suitemate I had in college who thought she was
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:52 PM
Oct 2012

soooo smart... and then got really upset when I got A's and she got C's in an upper-level History course we were taking.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
43. I always thought
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:49 PM
Oct 2012

of Cheney as a sadist. Maybe he's just evil incarnate....Satan.

True sociopaths can be charming when they have to be.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
44. I agree that Cheney is most likely evil incarnate.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:38 PM
Oct 2012

And I agree that sociopaths can be charming, but they arent always.

 

femrap

(13,418 posts)
46. I thought the definition of
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:26 PM
Oct 2012

being a sociopath was their ability to charm their way to the top and then back stab everyone they stepped upon. They simply have no conscience...and do what is required to attain their goal. They are charming only when they must be....when it suits their 'plans.'

I can't figure out how to label KKKarl, can you? Sadist, at least....possibly closeted so that really makes him angry and that anger has to go somewhere.

Grover Norquist is another one. If he hates Gov't so much, move to Somalia, right?

I wonder if any of them see shrinks?? Doubtful.

I just can't believe that Cheney got a new heart...and it hasn't changed him in the least.

4_TN_TITANS

(2,977 posts)
27. k/r Best quote ever...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 05:18 PM
Oct 2012

Joe Biden laughed at him? Of course, he did. The only other option was to hand him a participation ribbon and take him to Burger King for lunch.

malaise

(268,913 posts)
31. The best part of this commentary
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 06:34 PM
Oct 2012
There is a deeply held Beltway myth of Paul Ryan, Man of Big Ideas, and it dies hard. But, if there is a just god in the universe, on Thursday night, it died a bloody death, was hurled into a pit, doused with quicklime, buried without ceremony, and the ground above it salted and strewn with garlic so that it never rises again.


Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/paul-ryan-debate-joe-biden-13626962#ixzz298AYK6RB




 

DirtyDawg

(802 posts)
39. Actually...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 04:06 AM
Oct 2012

...there were other options. Joe could have used 'There you go again.' - but that's so last century...or he could have just called out 'lar, liar pants on fire.' for an hour and half...so instead he chose to shake his head in disbelief and chuckle.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
40. I think Romney, Ryan and Walker would wear lipstick
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:45 AM
Oct 2012

if the Koch brothers asked them too. They are bought and paid for, they are whores for the Republican Party.

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