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Wed Feb 24, 2021, 05:29 PM

 

The Capitol Building Was Left Un-Defended On Purpose - Who Will Be The First To Say It?

I am tired of the 9-11 intelligence failure run around.

This is bs.

Someone "in authority" should be able to say the obvious.

Sure we will have more hearings, and more theatre, but the narrative is being lost.

The attack was planned, and the undefended capitol was also planned.

Period.

Now someone just say it.

Let the cowards in the media chew on that.

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Reply The Capitol Building Was Left Un-Defended On Purpose - Who Will Be The First To Say It? (Original post)
DanieRains Feb 2021 OP
choie Feb 2021 #1
Hortensis Feb 2021 #48
Walleye Feb 2021 #2
Kyblue1 Feb 2021 #3
Rebl2 Feb 2021 #12
niyad Feb 2021 #23
calimary Feb 2021 #39
Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #4
Grasswire2 Feb 2021 #5
pazzyanne Feb 2021 #15
jaxexpat Feb 2021 #44
poli-junkie Feb 2021 #6
malaise Feb 2021 #7
Butterflylady Feb 2021 #8
wnylib Feb 2021 #55
PaulnFortWorth Feb 2021 #57
lindysalsagal Feb 2021 #9
Oldem Feb 2021 #10
oldsoftie Feb 2021 #11
flibbitygiblets Feb 2021 #30
yuiyoshida Feb 2021 #13
Alpeduez21 Feb 2021 #18
yuiyoshida Feb 2021 #35
lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #38
Blue Owl Feb 2021 #14
PatSeg Feb 2021 #42
ashredux Feb 2021 #16
Corgigal Feb 2021 #17
smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #19
LittleGirl Feb 2021 #20
IronLionZion Feb 2021 #21
Joinfortmill Feb 2021 #22
dchill Feb 2021 #24
PatSeg Feb 2021 #46
Evolve Dammit Feb 2021 #25
Takket Feb 2021 #26
ybbor Feb 2021 #27
BigmanPigman Feb 2021 #28
AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #29
Paladin Feb 2021 #31
PatSeg Feb 2021 #47
apnu Feb 2021 #32
moondust Feb 2021 #33
brooklynite Feb 2021 #34
triron Feb 2021 #41
brooklynite Feb 2021 #50
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #52
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #51
Mike Niendorff Feb 2021 #36
lagomorph777 Feb 2021 #37
triron Feb 2021 #40
Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2021 #43
seta1950 Feb 2021 #45
BarbD Feb 2021 #49
Ferrets are Cool Feb 2021 #53
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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 05:31 PM

1. Rec 1,000,000!

n/t

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Response to choie (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:18 PM

48. Well, we can't know who was the first to make this accusation on January 6,

but googling would probably turn up the first time it appeared in print.

It is an accusation, of course, until proven by investigation and confirmed in a court of law. The media know what they can responsibly and ethically say and what they cannot. And authorities choose their words carefully for very good reasons, not just ethical ones, but to avoid hurting their own case and giving ammunition to the enemy.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 05:37 PM

2. I want the testimony of the national guard guy who said bad optics

The Republicans have been beating that to death as if it’s our fault as of we overreacted to the violent armed clearing of the peaceful demonstration in the summer. Sick and tired of their whining and blaming everything us. Shouldn’t the park police have been involved in this?

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 05:37 PM

3. And when the trail leads back to Trump, he should be charge$ criminally

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Response to Kyblue1 (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:15 PM

12. Absolutely

I am fairly sure he is the one who ordered the national guard to stand down

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:46 PM

23. That appears to have been either michael flynn's brother or trump toady chris miller.

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Response to niyad (Reply #23)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:52 AM

39. Yeah, I'd guess high-level underlings who wanted to make sure

nothing was said that would offend their dear leader.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:09 PM

4. Yep. No doubt about it.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:09 PM

5. They made shirts saying CIVIL WAR January 6.


How long does it take to get those made, and distributed in various ways?

THEY PLANNED AHEAD FOR CIVIL WAR.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:25 PM

15. There have been vague comments about civil war in the hinterlands for months.

Some people in my area, and my trumphumper relatives have made these comments since late 2017. The day the Capitol was stormed, my sister commented that the "patriots" have finally had enough. I was quick to point out that the people who stormed the capitol declared war on the United States. Things get very quiet very quickly, and my family members have unfriended me, like that will hurt my feelings. It was pre-planned!

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:10 PM

44. Insurrectionist themed Tee-shirts is a cottage industry among their camp follower groupies.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:09 PM

6. RePutin gas lighting is infuriating

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:14 PM

7. THIS

Rec

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:21 PM

8. Of course it was,

It doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure that out. All those jokers that were replaced after the election in the pentagon, the ones that had no clue what they were doing. You don't replace experienced people when there is only a month or so left in the administration do you?

Of course you don't, unless there was a goal in mind and trump certainly had one.

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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 04:38 PM

55. Remember those days and weeks

of silence from the orange menace after the Saturday when the election was declared?

He was huddled with his circle planning the insurrection. I am sure of it.

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Response to Butterflylady (Reply #8)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 05:04 PM

57. Time Line

The request for the national guard came at 1:09 but the dispatch didn't occur until 2:01.
What were they doing after the emergency call came in? Watching TV. It was covered live by all the major networks. At 2pm they decided the insurrection was going to fail because Pence and the rest of congress were safe. Only then did the national guard get dispatched to the capital.
The appointed trumpanzees needed to make sure tRump's mob wasn't going to kill off most members of congress.
The pentagon appointees were accessories to insurrection.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 06:42 PM

9. GQP probably told the people who resigned not to admit culpability

THAT coverup is the even bigger crime.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:05 PM

10. Oh, it was worse than undefended. It was partially defended. So

a thin blue line, or at least those of them who weren't complicit, had to face murderous thousands. Some died. If the capitol had been utterly undefended, elected official would have died. But officer Sicknick had to die. Others had to die or be maimed. Officer Goodman had to be a hero. If the place had been undefended, it would all have been too obvious. Instead, people were sacrificed. This is gross treachery, and we'll probably never get to the bottom of it.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:09 PM

11. But planned by who? Because it certainly made trump look terrible.

No, I dont think it was planned. They just didnt think they would cause any serious trouble & when they did they werent ready.
If they'd shot the first 5-6 through the doors it would've been stopped before it got started.

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Response to oldsoftie (Reply #11)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:25 PM

30. trump's not exactly a "think ahead" sort

He was glued to the TV while this was playing out; mesmerized by some accounts. His mob wouldn't have gotten in had the national guard been there (as they should have been, as they were when BLM was outside the WH).

All he wanted was chaos, and he got it. I guarantee that he doesn't think this made him look bad at all.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:16 PM

13. Republican's were willing to overthrow

the Government in order to turn this country into another North Korea. Trump wanted to be Kinged, and the Republican party would allow it, had the Coup actually worked. They are still trying to disenfranchise voters of color.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:37 PM

18. The serious portent of this is overlooked

The value that Republicans place on white supremacy is glossed over too blithely. Racism is what got Trump elected and racism is what continues to fuel the republicans. Sure Biden is a white guy but them dems love them some minorities. Never forgive and never forget what requkes want for America

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Response to Alpeduez21 (Reply #18)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:32 AM

35. The worse thing about is that they

Always found a way to get a get out of jail card for far, far too long. If Trump doesn’t go to prison for any or all his deeds then Justice will never be true or fair for anyone.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #35)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:40 AM

38. If Trump (and his minions) don't go to prison, we may not survive as a nation.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:16 PM

14. Only tRump would have any interest in leaving it unguarded

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:08 PM

42. Yes

He may not have known exactly what would happen, but I'm sure he expected chaos and violence, as he thrives on that. Also he made too many changes at the Pentagon after the election to be random. It was planned and I think Trump was thrilled to see that it actually surpassed his wildest expectations. He is an absolute monster.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:33 PM

16. The "unspoken truth"...it will come out

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:34 PM

17. You just did.

We back you, cause you’re correct.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:37 PM

19. K&R

 

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:42 PM

20. I did that day!

We pay hundreds of billions in tax dollars a year for our protection, our military. Where were they? Why wasn’t 45 evacuated? The Capital building was overrun by some yokels from Michigan. How the hell did that happen? Officials died! The FBI sent an email? Really?

Follow the money...45.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:43 PM

21. Many of us have been saying it from the 6th

We all saw it. Trump's people in the pentagon and law enforcement chose not to send backup and didn't allow DC, VA, or MD national guard units or DC's MPD units into the Capitol area until the very end. They were refused authorization on purpose by the Trump administration.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:44 PM

22. Amen.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:48 PM

24. It's so obvious that I wonder at the inability of the press to say it.

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Response to dchill (Reply #24)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:15 PM

46. And you know, they don't even have to say it definitively

as that could be seen as irresponsible. They could just phrase it as a question, "With all the evidence available, does it seem like the Capitol was left undefended intentionally?" That would open up discussion and debate. There is treason afoot in DC and it must be addressed.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:55 PM

25. Agree. Stand down in code. K&R x 1000!

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 07:57 PM

26. absolutely........

i remember reading on line from media members that had covered washington that they saw way more police presence for much smaller marches and protests. A capitol police officer was murdered by insurrectionists because the officers were hung out to dry. They deserve and explanation as to why. So does the rest of America.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:00 PM

27. Oh, Hell Yes

No doubt

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:14 PM

28. The GQP is trying to do an apples/oranges thing

to ruin the narrative and provide a false comparison. Typical.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:23 PM

29. when are we going to say trump did it?

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:25 PM

31. You nailed it. It's a miracle there weren't more Congressional deaths. (nt)

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Response to Paladin (Reply #31)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:17 PM

47. That is for sure

We came very close to losing many more lives. Once a mob gets the taste of blood, it tends to snowball.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 08:29 PM

32. I have bern saying this since 1/7/21

I think many pols don’t want to say it because it opens some inconvenient truths and pols are usually cowards who can’t get a job anywhere else.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Feb 24, 2021, 09:51 PM

34. Who are you claiming left it undefended?

It’s a serious charge, and you should be able to identify someone and show proof.

(No - The Capitol is not the responsibility of the executive Dept, and the Capitol Police were, at the time, jointly under the control of Speaker Pelosi and Majority Leader McConnell.)

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:57 AM

41. So it was Pelosi?? Yeah right.

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Response to triron (Reply #41)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:59 PM

50. The OP claims a purposeful choice was made...

...I'm still waiting for a name.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #50)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:44 PM

52. Now you have names. . . . nt

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #34)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 01:42 PM

51. tRump, Miller, Sund, Lewandowski, .... "allowed no helmets, no body armor, no weapons, no arrests"

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215034066
Trump's Acting Defense Secretary, who was installed after Trump lost the election, blocked the National Guard from being able to support the DC police

Smoking gun: The orders from Miller to the DC National Guard for January 6 included in linked article— is a must read. The DC guard were allowed no helmets, no body armor, no weapons. They were not allowed to stop or arrest protesters. Letter orders no interference with rioters






https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142681657
House Appropriations Committee Chair Rosa DeLauro, a Connecticut Democrat, said in a phone call with CNN that members were "shaking their heads in disbelief" throughout the briefing about the security breakdown in the lead up to January 6. During that briefing, acting US Capitol Police Chief Yogananda Pittman admitted her department knew there was a "strong potential for violence" targeting Congress, but did not take appropriate steps to prevent it.



https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215008839


Julia Davis @JuliaDavisNews
The commander of the D.C. National Guard said the Pentagon restricted his authority ahead of the riot at the U.S. Capitol, requiring higher level sign-off to respond that cost time as the events that day spiraled out of control.



Don't forget tRump fired Esper Nov 9 when it was clear that he wasn't going to win the vote counts. He installed his toady Chris Miller and appointed civilians like Cory Lewandowski and Broady to the civilian oversight board that gummed things up.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 03:55 AM

36. Exactly.

It wasn't an "intelligence failure", it was criminal complicity.


MDN

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:38 AM

37. It's been obvious since January 6th. I don't know why it's so hard for our leaders to just say it.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 11:56 AM

40. And ordered so by Trump. But the media to say this? Sigh.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:09 PM

43. Mainstream media was tweeting about VIOLENT THREATS at least the day before

Example: NBC News




Reporter at NBC News

Brandy Zadrozny
@BrandyZadrozny
·
Jan 5
New from me and @oneunderscore__

Radical conservatives and far-right activists are flooding online platforms with threats and expectations of violence for tomorrow's rally against congressional certification of the election. Extremism experts are worried.
Violent threats ripple through far-right internet forums ahead of protest
In anticipation of possible violence, Washington Mayor Muriel Bowser has asked residents to stay away from the downtown area where protesters will be marching.
nbcnews.com

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:13 PM

45. EXACTLY

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 12:37 PM

49. Not only a special commission is needed --

But, every relevant Congressional Committee should investigate.

I must admit to being rather naive in never considering a coup attempt. However, watching these thugs storm the Capitol on January 6th, and then simply walk away while remembering the over the top reaction to BLM protests, I was in a state of disbelief.

We have a long way to go before we can have any semblance of order.

Now, even this 83 year old great grandmother has come to the obvious conclusion that January 6th was well planned with many in power complicit. The only reason it didn't succeed is that the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, QAnon etc. were not up to the task.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:20 PM

53. I've been preaching that sentiment since day one. The first videos and the subsequent

reports indicated to my peanut brain that this was a coordinated effort. Or non-effort, if you will.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 02:47 PM

54. The only other choice is massive incompetence on the part of MANY officials.

How could anyone looking at the plans and procedures NOT say "Gee. I just had a thought. What if something goes wrong""

The security protocols and surrounding planning and execution of same all STINK. As in "something is rotten," not merely "that worked out badly." Not "lesson learned - won't get caught short like that again."

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Thu Feb 25, 2021, 04:48 PM

56. Exactly! I'm not sure why it's still so hard for some people

to fully accept how much of a POS trump is.

Let it absorb, dammit: He wanted to take out Pence and Pelosi, but he wouldn't have given a shit if ALL of them died that day. That includes his bootlickers (Cruz, Hawley, McCarthy, etc). If they ended up collateral damage, he wouldn't have cared.

As he told McCarthy on the phone that day (after he was told that Pence had been taken): “Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are...”

Let it sink in, then lock the traitorous M-F up, NOW!

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