Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:24 PM
Klaralven (3,437 posts)
Cherokee Nation asks Jeep to 'retire' name of SUV
The Cherokee Nation said Monday it has asked for its tribal name to be removed as a nameplate from Jeep sport utility vehicles and called for a dialogue with the automaker on "cultural appropriateness."
The Native American group's principal chief Chuck Hoskin Jr asked Jeep's parent firm Stellantis "he does not condone" the use of the name Cherokee on the vehicles, according to a statement. Hoskin made the comments last month in response to an inquiry from Car & Driver and subsequently held a Zoom call with representatives of the automaker who had contacted him, the group said. "I think we're in a day and age in this country where it's time for both corporations and team sports to retire the use of Native American names, images and mascots from their products, team jerseys and sports in general," Hoskin said in his initial statement. "I'm sure this comes from a place that is well-intended, but it does not honor us by having our name plastered on the side of a car. "The best way to honor us is to learn about our sovereign government, our role in this country, our history, culture and language and have meaningful dialogue with federally recognized tribes on cultural appropriateness." https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20210223-cherokee-nation-asks-jeep-to-retire-name-of-suv
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Klaralven | Feb 22 | OP |
SunSeeker | Feb 22 | #1 | |
Polybius | Feb 22 | #4 | |
SunSeeker | Feb 22 | #6 | |
Polybius | Feb 23 | #10 | |
SunSeeker | Feb 23 | #12 | |
William Seger | Feb 23 | #17 | |
hlthe2b | Feb 23 | #23 | |
Roisin Ni Fiachra | Feb 23 | #32 | |
True Dough | Feb 22 | #5 | |
Celerity | Feb 22 | #7 | |
SunSeeker | Feb 23 | #9 | |
Celerity | Feb 23 | #11 | |
USALiberal | Feb 23 | #26 | |
SlogginThroughIt | Feb 23 | #28 | |
Hugh_Lebowski | Feb 22 | #2 | |
GP6971 | Feb 22 | #3 | |
dflprincess | Feb 23 | #8 | |
wnylib | Feb 23 | #14 | |
Gore1FL | Feb 23 | #13 | |
rickyhall | Feb 23 | #15 | |
rickyhall | Feb 23 | #16 | |
Captain Zero | Feb 23 | #18 | |
JustABozoOnThisBus | Feb 23 | #20 | |
Klaralven | Feb 23 | #21 | |
Voltaire2 | Feb 23 | #22 | |
Buns_of_Fire | Feb 23 | #24 | |
Post removed | Feb 23 | #19 | |
Sneederbunk | Feb 23 | #25 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Feb 23 | #29 | |
WhiskeyGrinder | Feb 23 | #27 | |
BannonsLiver | Feb 23 | #30 | |
BannonsLiver | Feb 23 | #31 |
Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:31 PM
SunSeeker (44,158 posts)
1. And it's a shitty SUV too, adding insult to injury. nt
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:36 PM
Polybius (6,076 posts)
4. I love the Cherokee
Maybe I've been lucky, but it's been so much fun in the Summer and Winter for me.
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Response to Polybius (Reply #4)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:47 PM
SunSeeker (44,158 posts)
6. You've been lucky. Consumer Reports rates it with well below average reliability.
What year is yours?
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #6)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 12:05 AM
Polybius (6,076 posts)
10. I's so very sorry, but I completely misread
I have the Jeep Wrangler. It's late and I had one too many!
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #6)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:17 AM
William Seger (8,627 posts)
17. Drove my '95 Cherokee for 20 years, sold it to my BIL for $1 and he's still driving it
Response to Polybius (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:00 AM
hlthe2b (84,243 posts)
23. I had a similar kneejerk reaction, but now thinking back, my old Cherokee from way back was
ultimately a real pain for all the costly repairs I dealt with after the first few years. I'm sympathetic to Native Americans reclaiming their heritage and now, having time to pause, I'm doubly so.
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Response to Polybius (Reply #4)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:03 PM
Roisin Ni Fiachra (1,252 posts)
32. Mine is 35 yrs old, has 203,500 miles on it.
I've beat the holy heck out of it, in mountains and deserts, and it has never let me down, still has all the original running gear.
I love my Jeep, best vehicle ever. |
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:37 PM
True Dough (11,768 posts)
5. They have sold of ton of them
I've read quite a few complaints -- common considering the sales volume -- but my wife and I have only had one issue with our 2017 Cherokee. It needed the wiring and bezel replaced after the "service shifter" warning come on. That's a widespread problem and has been for years.
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:54 PM
Celerity (17,666 posts)
7. Porsche Cayenne FTW
We love ours and will likely trade it in for the new 2023 model in 2022.
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Response to Celerity (Reply #7)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 12:01 AM
SunSeeker (44,158 posts)
9. Yep. Consumer Reports rates the 2019 model with well above average reliability.
And depending on the engine you get, they're a thrill to drive...if you've got $100k laying around.
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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #9)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 12:08 AM
Celerity (17,666 posts)
11. It will likely be the last non all-electric auto we buy. It will be an E-hybrid model for sure. nt
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:27 AM
USALiberal (7,268 posts)
26. Lol, ok! Nt
Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:28 AM
SlogginThroughIt (1,977 posts)
28. Not in my experience.
I have known several people very loyal to that model who all consistently have had them for years. You can find many of these vehicles still on the road long after when I would consider replacing.
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Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:34 PM
Hugh_Lebowski (19,689 posts)
2. I wonder if the Apache know that the most popular web server application in the world
With over a 44% marketshare ... is called Apache.
It's free/open-source though, so perhaps they'd not take as much offense when nobody is actually profiting. I'd be very surprised if DU isn't served on Apache. This is the DU member formerly known as mr_lebowski.
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Response to Hugh_Lebowski (Reply #2)
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 11:36 PM
GP6971 (19,174 posts)
3. And most Army
helicopters are named after Native American tribes.
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Response to GP6971 (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 12:00 AM
dflprincess (25,849 posts)
8. During WWII my dad's bomber group was called
The Air Apaches. It also had a very stereotypical logo (but at least not cartoonish).
I doubt there were many Native Americans in the group, if any. |
Response to GP6971 (Reply #3)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:09 AM
wnylib (5,423 posts)
14. There's also the Winnebago RV.
Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:04 AM
Gore1FL (18,077 posts)
13. My ex wife had a Grand Cherokee she bought used.
Her reasons were dubious. She couldn't afford it. Ultimately I paid for it.
I called it her 20 Grand Cherokee. Maybe I a bitter but fuck that model. |
Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:29 AM
rickyhall (3,095 posts)
15. A boss I had back in the 70s had a Cherokee twin-engine airplane, I forget the manufacture.
Jeep used to sell a Comanche, too.
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Response to rickyhall (Reply #15)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 01:34 AM
rickyhall (3,095 posts)
16. Sorry, it was a Piper Comanche twin, the Cherokee was the single engine Piper.
Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 02:26 AM
Captain Zero (2,897 posts)
18. ok, what would be a good name to replace it?
Jeep followed by something tough and rugged. This is an SUV. Starts with a J.
The Jeep J---------- I got nothing. |
Response to Captain Zero (Reply #18)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 05:47 AM
JustABozoOnThisBus (20,761 posts)
20. The Jeep JustAnSUV?
I dunno, the name just occurred to me.
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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #18)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 06:25 AM
Klaralven (3,437 posts)
21. Jeep Jeronimo?
Response to Captain Zero (Reply #18)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 07:15 AM
Buns_of_Fire (14,129 posts)
24. The Jeep Juggernaut!
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Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:26 AM
Sneederbunk (8,306 posts)
25. It's about time. Cherokees owned black slaves.
Response to Sneederbunk (Reply #25)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:31 AM
WhiskeyGrinder (10,820 posts)
29. Interestingly, the Cherokee Nation Supreme Court just removed blood references in its constitution
and stated unequivocally that descendants of Freedmen are citizens of the sovereign Cherokee Nation. Huge step.
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Response to Klaralven (Original post)
Tue Feb 23, 2021, 11:27 AM
WhiskeyGrinder (10,820 posts)
27. Bought this model last year and remarked this would probably be one of the last years that it
carries the name.
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