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Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:30 AM

Joe says the world is at an "inflection point' between democracy v. autocracy -- "a fundamental deba


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Jeff Zeleny
@jeffzeleny
"I know the past few years have strained the relationship," Biden says of long-standing allies. He doesn't mention Trump by name, of course he doesn't have to, but this is the strongest rollback yet of 'America First' agenda. Biden also reverses removal of US troops in Germany.


Jeremy Diamond
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Biden says "democratic progress is under assault."
He says the world is at an "inflection point' between democracy v. autocracy -- "a fundamental debate about the future & direction of our world."
"I believe with every ounce of my being that democracy will and must prevail"

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Reply Joe says the world is at an "inflection point' between democracy v. autocracy -- "a fundamental deba (Original post)
soothsayer Feb 19 OP
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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:51 AM

1. It's wonderful that he is putting this right out there, front and center

I know some people close to me that discount the idea that the United States could ever not be a democracy, and it's because of the post-WW2, post-Cold War eras were were born in, when it didn't even seem to be a question. But those people also don't spend much time studying what has been happening in Europe over the past decade, or in India, or other nations around the globe.

It just becomes so obvious in the context of the broad-based international changes that are under way, and also in recognizing that in many cases the same actors are behind it, or support it by underhanded means like cybernetic activism or financial support.

This could really strengthen the Democratic party if this becomes a stark choice between autocracy and democracy.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:52 AM

2. Those people don't spend much time studying what happened 6 weeks ago

Yikes

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:54 AM

3. They are very alarmed by that.

I still think they see it as a bullet we dodged rather than an ongoing process that could take years to work through.

It's also a misunderstanding about the balance of power. Some people think, "There are more of us than them" but as most of us realize, it's not that simple. Power is about more than numbers.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 19, 2021, 11:59 AM

4. Also, don't forget those posts...

Although there weren't many of them, some people said, basically: Joe Biden was sworn in on January 20, thus proving that the system works. Everything worked out just as it was supposed to, and the courts held...

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Response to soothsayer (Original post)

Fri Feb 19, 2021, 12:00 PM

5. Hope this doesn't mean my niece and her husband will have to back to Germany

They just bought a house here.

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