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Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 10:37 PM Oct 2012

How does Obama respond to Romney's lies and damnable lies?

LIARS set my teeth on edge and make me spitting mad. I have had the unfortunate bad luck to know a pathological liar firsthand. I am sure I am not alone. In fact I bet many on DU could tell stories about their encounters with such people. Many are lucky in that they are only casually acquainted with such people. Others are forced to work with and interact with such individuals daily. The most unlucky are related by blood to these individuals.

Perhaps those of us who have had daily dealings with such a person can offer insight based on firsthand observation of liars and how they lie.

Here are a few of my observations. Liars depend on us to be more trusting, which they view as gullibility. They think they are smarter than us for this reason.

Most people don't bother to call out liars because we don't care that much about them. If they are telling lies about running marathons or climbing mountains, we simply laugh at them behind their backs. It is not even worth our time to bother setting the record straight.

Because when we call a liar on his lies, we have to be prepared for a scene. The liar will freak out and turn the tables on you. The liar will play the victim and try to make you the liar. The liar will twist what you say, and grow more impassioned and aggressive trying to make you retract whatever accusation you made.

If you stand your ground, the liar may simply throw out more lies, but eventually will be cornered by his own cleverness. That's when the liar will backtrack
and retract an untruthful statement (which is polite for saying the liar admits he lied). Oddly, in the liar's mind he will believe this means he has a clean slate and no history of false statements. So when he lies again and you remind him of the history of false statements, he will turn red and grow outraged. He will demand to know why you are keeping score as if you were the problem not the lies he keeps telling. He will get very angry at you for not being an easy mark.

Liar badgering is the only way to disarm a liar and get any satisfaction. Refuse to let him make up the rules of engagement. Flat out tell him the truth. Liars hate when you have a good memory. Liars depend on your reluctance to create a scene. Don't ever give a liar the satisfaction.

Anyone else have strategies for dealing with liars based on close observation of liars in their natural habitat?

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How does Obama respond to Romney's lies and damnable lies? (Original Post) Generic Other Oct 2012 OP
"You Know Mitt, you can't hide the truth from your maker." fearnobush Oct 2012 #1
Your inner CEO? Generic Other Oct 2012 #2
Once again, this is not complicated jsmirman Oct 2012 #3

fearnobush

(3,960 posts)
1. "You Know Mitt, you can't hide the truth from your maker."
Wed Oct 10, 2012, 11:25 PM
Oct 2012

"So I guess omission of fact is one of your FLDS things."

"So what is it Mitt, are you an evangelical Christian or a Mormon"

"they might believe your were sorry about the 47%, but then you doubled down on it Mitt. Come on Mitt! Get with the truth."

"Your inner CEO is fibbing again Mitt."

"was that Mitt the moderate or Mitt the ultra conservative?"

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
3. Once again, this is not complicated
Thu Oct 11, 2012, 04:19 AM
Oct 2012

see:

you just point out how they are lying and avoid using the word "liar."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1501886

or see:

I also find it ludicrous because I swear on all that is good and holy that the entire week before the debate all I could think about was "what is the best way to skewer Mitt when he presents an entirely new set of positions that don't match anything he's said the last year?" There was no "if." Only "what is the best way to respond."

As I've posted repeatedly, one of the better ones I had come up with was, "my opponent stands for nothing. He's telling you this tonight, but that's not what he said last week, and it's not what he said at any of the 200 Republican debates. And if you can't trust what he's saying tonight or what he said last week or last month, how can you trust him about anything? Now, I don't want to waste more time on that, because I'd like to present you my clearly held position on this topic, but go to www.barackobama.com right after the debate, and we'll have clips up to show that my opponent is stunningly dishonest."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021487277

The key to confronting a liar is not being afraid of their response.

You remain calm and resolute in the face of their bluster. You display clear command of the facts that expose them as a liar. You don't say it as though it is a personal attack, you say it as though it is a fact. Because it is. They are lying. And calmly pointing that out is just clarifying the record.


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