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Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:10 PM

Michael Steele said that if Merick Garland tries to prosecute Trump

That it will turn off donors. Do any of you agree with that assertion.

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Reply Michael Steele said that if Merick Garland tries to prosecute Trump (Original post)
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 OP
TeamPooka Feb 2021 #1
GoneOffShore Feb 2021 #2
Airotciv60 Feb 2021 #3
Hekate Feb 2021 #4
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #10
Blue Owl Feb 2021 #5
Squinch Feb 2021 #6
TwilightZone Feb 2021 #7
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #14
Mr.Bill Feb 2021 #16
TwilightZone Feb 2021 #21
mzmolly Feb 2021 #8
Dustlawyer Feb 2021 #9
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #15
Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #25
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #28
Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #29
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #32
Irish_Dem Feb 2021 #34
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #36
Vinca Feb 2021 #11
Deuce Feb 2021 #12
PatSeg Feb 2021 #13
dutch777 Feb 2021 #33
PatSeg Feb 2021 #35
dlk Feb 2021 #17
BeyondGeography Feb 2021 #18
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #23
tinrobot Feb 2021 #19
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #46
Thekaspervote Feb 2021 #20
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #42
Jamaal510 Feb 2021 #50
OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #22
Pachamama Feb 2021 #24
ananda Feb 2021 #26
andym Feb 2021 #27
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #45
dameatball Feb 2021 #30
GoCubsGo Feb 2021 #31
lunatica Feb 2021 #37
sinkingfeeling Feb 2021 #38
beastie boy Feb 2021 #39
gibraltar72 Feb 2021 #40
hurple Feb 2021 #41
mcar Feb 2021 #43
JI7 Feb 2021 #44
DeminPennswoods Feb 2021 #47
DLCWIdem Feb 2021 #48
PlanetBev Feb 2021 #49
DAngelo136 Feb 2021 #51

Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:10 PM

1. nope

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:10 PM

2. Hah. It will encourage donors.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:11 PM

3. No

Remember. Steele is a Republican. Majority of people want to see justice here.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:11 PM

4. Merrick Garland will follow the Law

I am certain

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Response to Hekate (Reply #4)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:13 PM

10. Yeah. But that will be a high bar with the insurrection

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:12 PM

5. Michael, turning donors on or off is not the point

Justice for proven crimes committed is the point...

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:12 PM

6. Donors to whom? Democrats or Donny Bodybags?

Democrats? No.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:12 PM

7. It's certainly possible, but that's not a reason not to do so.

I'd actually prefer that a different jurisdiction (or several, preferably) pursue Trump for criminal activity. There certainly seems like there's enough to go around.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:15 PM

14. Well I think GA has a strong case

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #7)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:15 PM

16. Probably would be for Steele.

He is a republican, after all.

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Response to Mr.Bill (Reply #16)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:19 PM

21. I think he has a point, actually.

A lot of organizations donate to both parties. It is possible that some of them might prefer that a former president, even Trump, not be pursued by the current administration for whatever reasons.

Again, that's not a reason not to pursue Trump, but I think it's within the realm of possibility.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:12 PM

8. Hell no.

I'll donate MORE.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:13 PM

9. That is the problem with our current system.

Big Donors should not get a say in whether or not to seek justice.

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Response to Dustlawyer (Reply #9)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:15 PM

15. It's an oligarchy. Money rules.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:25 PM

25. +1

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #28)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:30 PM

29. We have been an oligarchy for several decades now.

There is no doubt about it.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #29)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:40 PM

32. Buchanan wrote his book about it in 1975 ...


[ ... ]
Economists Tyler Cowen and Alexander Tabarrok, both of George Mason University, have noted the two menís affinities, heralding Calhoun ďa precursor of modern public choice theoryĒ who ďanticipatesĒ Buchananís thinking. MacLean observes that both focused on how democracy constrains property owners and aimed for ways to restrict the latitude of voters. She argues that unlike even the most property-friendly founders Alexander Hamilton and James Madison, Buchanan wanted a private governing elite of corporate power that was wholly released from public accountability.

Suppressing voting, changing legislative processes so that a normal majority could no longer prevail, sowing public distrust of government institutionsó all these were tactics toward the goal. But the Holy Grail was the Constitution: alter it and you could increase and secure the power of the wealthy in a way that no politician could ever challenge.

Gravy Train to Oligarchy

MacLean explains that Virginiaís white elite and the pro-corporate president of the University of Virginia, Colgate Darden, who had married into the DuPont family, found Buchananís ideas to be spot on. In nurturing a new intelligentsia to commit to his values, Buchanan stated that he needed a ďgravy train,Ē and with backers like Charles Koch and conservative foundations like the Scaife Family Charitable Trusts, others hopped aboard. Money, Buchanan knew, can be a persuasive tool in academia. His circle of influence began to widen.


[ ... ]

https://www.ineteconomics.org/perspectives/blog/meet-the-economist-behind-the-one-percents-stealth-takeover-of-america

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #32)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:47 PM

34. I noticed the flip to an oligarchy about the mid 80's.

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Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #34)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:52 PM

36. Yep, Rotten Ronnie was the puppet they needed. We've been fighting it ever since.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:13 PM

11. Republican donors to the GOP (or TOP) maybe.

Seeing Trump held accountable will open my wallet BIGLY.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:15 PM

13. Well, I suppose it depends on which donors

A lot of big donors are withholding money from republicans who opposed certification of the election, so I don't think those donors would have a problem with prosecuting Trump.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:46 PM

33. And what he is charged with. Would not be my big worry...donors. I think it will solidify Dems

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Response to dutch777 (Reply #33)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:49 PM

35. I agree

I'm surprised that Steele said what he did.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:15 PM

17. Trump's many crimes require a special prosecutor

If we actually believe in the rule of law...

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:15 PM

18. I hope Garland focuses on domestic terror

If and when Trumpís name comes up as part of that, so much the better.

Eviscerate and expose the seamy underbelly of Trumpís base and send as many of them to jail as possible. That will demoralize them and ruin Trump politically. Itís a two-fer and better for the safety of the country as well.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #18)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:23 PM

23. Well. Some of those groups are already purportedly angry at Trump

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:16 PM

19. I had no idea Garland accepts donations.

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Response to tinrobot (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:26 PM

46. Are you being sarcastic. Or are you honestly not understanding.

Because I know I may not have made myself understood unless you had listened to the segment

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:16 PM

20. Michael Steele is the most republican of all TLP founders. I do not trust him

Has said other stuff that just isnít in line with TLP

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #20)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:16 PM

42. Well what he said is that it would energise republican in 2 years.

Steele said it would be the gift that keeps on giving

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Response to DLCWIdem (Reply #42)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:56 PM

50. As the party

that doesn't hold the presidency, they'd probably be energized anyway.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:20 PM

22. Small donor's are the lifeblood of Democratic campaigns.

They'll be no appreciable loss of donors, big or small. But, let's see how the Trump Republican Party can fundraise for 2022. Remember, Rubes, DJT's lawyer threw you under the bus today.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:24 PM

24. Completely disagree

Michael Steele is plain wrong on this

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:26 PM

26. No. Steele's not a Dem.

This would, in fact, energize Democrats to the max!

WE WANT JUSTICE!

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:27 PM

27. special prosecutor needed for Trump

and it seems even McConnell was hinting at criminal prosecution with Trump acting as an "ordinary citizen" when inciting the insurrection.

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Response to andym (Reply #27)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:22 PM

45. Which should give us pause

Mcturtle doesn't do anything without calculation. Claire Mckaskil made the point that he said that to bring back those big donors who had started holding back from the Republicans right after the terrorist attack on 1/6.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:32 PM

30. Not this donor. I'm not one of the big cats but there are a lot more like me. In fact it would light

a fire under a lot of small donors imo.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:38 PM

31. Did you ever notice that it's mostly Republicans who claim this kind of shit?

Claiming "If the Democrats do this, they only hurt themselves" every time the GQP fucks up has been a go-to Republican tactic for decades. They do it out of projection, and in hopes that it the Dems will buy this bullshit, and be too scared to act. Steele is still a Republican. It's no surprise he's falling back on this tired, old tactic. Fortunately, the Dems are no longer falling for this garbage.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 06:57 PM

37. He doesn't understand Democrats if he thinks that

Heís still thinking like a Republican so Iím fine with him choosing to remain a Republican.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 07:00 PM

38. Not Democratic donors.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 07:01 PM

39. If he tries to prosecute trump, yes. If he prosecutes trump, no.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 07:34 PM

40. Hell to the no.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 08:31 PM

41. It will some...

But not all, and many many more new donors will crawl out of the woodwork.

We saw on Nov 6 2020 that anti-trump sentiment runs far higher and burns far brighter than pro-trump sentiment...

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:16 PM

43. What donors?

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:19 PM

44. Turn off which donors and to who ?

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:27 PM

47. I thought that comment about donors

was related to McConnell's machinations. Something to the effect that McConnell is angling to goad Biden's DoJ to investigate Trump and if it does, that would drive donors back to the GOP. I guess the logic is that donors who are currently boycotting the GOP would suddenly come to their senses about how bad Dems are and come running back into the arms of the GOP.

I wasn't paying close attention, but that's what filtered into my brain.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #47)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:32 PM

48. Yes. Exactly along those lines. I also sort of thought it would bring out the base against the Dems

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sat Feb 13, 2021, 09:39 PM

49. Michael Steele was raving about how great Nikki Haley is this morning.

He is still a Republican and Haley is still the epitome of political calculation.

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Response to DLCWIdem (Original post)

Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:27 AM

51. If That Is His Rationale....

For not pursuing justice against Donald Trump, then it illustrates in Technicolor why Citizens United is so toxic to politics
and why Election Finance reform has to be made a priority. Voters, not donors should be the ultimate consideration; ballots not dollars reflect the will of the people.

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