ATTN Senators on Trump's guilt before the insurrection/riot. You want proof? Here you go.

[Botany]

Dec. 19: Trump tweeted his praise for a report by his adviser Peter Navarro alleging election fraud: "A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!"

Dec. 26: Trump tweeted: "The ‘Justice’ Department and the FBI have done nothing about the 2020 Presidential Election Voter Fraud, the biggest SCAM in our nation’s history, despite overwhelming evidence. They should be ashamed. History will remember. Never give up. See everyone in D.C. on January 6th."

Dec. 27: "See you in Washington, DC, on January 6th. Don’t miss it. Information to follow!" Trump tweeted.

Jan. 1: "The BIG Protest Rally in Washington, D.C., will take place at 11.00 A.M. on January 6th. Locational details to follow. StopTheSteal!" Trump tweeted.

Jan. 1: "January 6th. See you in D.C." Trump tweeted.

Jan. 3: Trump retweeted @JenLawrence21, an organizer of a March for Trump bus tour: "Now we will bring it to DC on Jan 6 and PROUDLY stand beside you!"

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021/jan/11/timeline-what-trump-said-jan-6-capitol-riot/

[TwilightZone]

1. Knowing about the rally and knowing about the insurrection are two different things.

We need evidence that he knew about, planned, or allowed the insurrection to happen. Everyone knows that he knew about the rally; he called for it.

There is evidence that he at least allowed it to happen - standing down various law enforcement agencies, for example - but none of those statements indicates that he knew about the *insurrection* ahead of time.

[Botany]

5. Evidence? Two days before the Pro Trump riot/coup Trump's acting Defense Sec. gave a stand ...

...down order to the D.C. National Guard. Trump installed a new acting head of the DoD right after he lost
the election. It was all premeditated.


This memorandum responds directly to your January 4, 2021 memorandum regarding the District of Columbia request for District of Columbia National Guard (DCNG) support in response to planned demonstrations from January 5-6, 2021. You are authorized to approve the requested support, subject to my guidance below and subject to consultation with the Attorney General, as required by Executive Order 11485.

Without my subsequent, personal authorization, the DCNG is not authorized the following:

* To be issued weapons, ammunition, bayonets, batons, riot control agents or ballistic protection equipment such as helmets and body armor.

* To interact physically with protesters, except when necessary in self-defense or defense of others.

* Prohibited from sharing “equipment with law enforcement agencies” or seeking support from any non-DC National Guard units.

* Forbidden from conducting “searches, seizures, arrests, or other similar direct law enforcement activity.”

* Forbidden from using “Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance assets” or to conduct “Incident, Awareness and Assessment activities.”

* No helicopters or “any other air assets.”

[TwilightZone]

7. I'm talking about your OP.

Nothing in it is evidence that he knew about the insurrection beforehand. People are conflating the rally with the insurrection as if they're the same event. They are not. The rally may have been cover for the insurrection, but it's not the same thing.

As I clearly noted, there *is* evidence that he knew, just not in your OP.

[Botany]

12. Plenty of proof from Trump's pre riot speech

"We’re going to walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and -women,” Trump says from the podium. “We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them, because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong.”

snip


“We fight. We fight like hell,” he added. “And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”

From the crowd came shouts of “storm the Capitol,” “invade the Capitol building” and “take the Capitol” as he spoke. Others could be heard mimicking Trump, chanting, “Fight like hell!”

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-jan-6-rally-crowd-storm-the-capitol-video-184828622.html

[iluvtennis]

13. Exactly! nt

[ancianita]

22. Then focus on the speech itself, not just the tweets that, added together, only prove a plan

for a rally. He still might or might not have incited them no matter how much planning. He could have gone either way, but he didn't change his mind. He didn't stand down.

He can't defend the incitement as a "rally gone wrong" because of all the planning to clear space for an incitement as much as for a rally.

And so it ended up being incitement because millions of us witnessed it as such -- and because it was planned for either outcome, rally or insurrection. We heard and saw which one it was.

[CaptainTruth]

34. The DC National Guard is under POTUS' command.

"The president of the United States is the commander-in-chief for the District of Columbia National Guard."

"the Commanding General of the D.C. National Guard is subordinate solely to the President of the United States."

Do you think they wanted Trump to be able to call up armed troops that HE COMMANDED?

I'd say HELL NO! They disarmed "Trump's troops" & took his army away from him so he couldn't use those troops to do something truly horrific.

[Srkdqltr]

2. Here's the thing. They know what he did and they approve.

[The empressof all]

3. "Will be Wild" is loaded

I saw a number of MAGA's use that same term a number of times on Facebook and Twitter prior to the insurrection. I wasn't paying much attention to Trump but did think the use of that term by some prior to the 6th strange at the time.

[Dlpger61]

4. Gallow

Who brings a gallow to a peaceful March?

[iscooterliberally]

8. People who flunked basic woodworking 101.

It looks like a light breeze would blow that POS right over. That photo speaks volumes about who Trump supporters really are.

[Botany]

18. I like how the 2x4" across the top is narrower then the posts.

[lagomorph777]

6. "PROUDLY" - an obvious invitation to the Proud Boys terrorist group.

[magicarpet]

9. TrDump's propensity for violence,....

Can you believe a U S President would actually say and/or condone this ?

More details of violent history,... this trDump guy is a Mafioso type thug.

[ancianita]

27. Yes.

[SledDriver]

11. I keep saying

That the fact that the Capitol was under attack, with the 2nd and 3rd in the line of succession in the building and at risk, and that there was no effort whatsoever to evacuate the POTUS from DC to a secure location, should be all the evidence you need to determine who planned, launched, and directed the attack.

[soothsayer]

14. Good point

[Orrex]

28. Your point is exactly correct, but they don't care

They say, and I've seen them say, that Trump was sufficiently distant to be in no danger.

That's 100% bullshit of course, but it's enough of an excuse for his fuckhead cultists and, no doubt, for his fuckhead allies in the Senate.

[KS Toronado]

15. I hope someone recorded Qrump sitting in front of his TV on Jan 6th

cheering his crowd on and what he was saying.

[MontanaMama]

19. There is video of Traitor45 and his family

watching the insurrection on televisions from a tent...it was a party for them. I recall Kimberly Guilfoyle dancing like it was New Years Eve. They all watched and did absolutely nothing.

[RussellCattle]

32. I think that the video that you saw was from before the "rally" where T***p riled up the crowd.....

.....and sent them off to the Capitol to "fight like hell". I've looked at it a few times to confirm my utter disbelief at Guilfoyle's antics and Don Jr's drug addled stupor.

[Thunderbeast]

16. The evidence is circumstantial

but circumstantial evidence IS admissible in a criminal proceedings. This IS NOT a criminal proceeding. It is a political process where the jurors (senators) are not there to protect the community from wrong-doing, but to preserve the integrity of the republic as defined in the Constitution.

Criminal rules of evidence are a guideline for fairness, but they ARE NOT the relevant model. Senators can convict for any reason they choose.

If the Justice Department indicts after the proceedings, stricter rules will be enforced, and a unanimous jury verdict will be required. That will not preclude the circumstantial evidence that set the context for January 6th.

[soothsayer]

17. Didn't drumpf warn someone (pentagon?) that the planned nat guard troops would not be enough?

Like “not nearly enough”? Might show foreknowledge. Dunno.

[calimary]

20. I'd like to jam that trump flag through that noose, and leave it up there.

Right out in public where everybody can see it and it can’t be missed.

[progressoid]

21. We're gonna need a lot more than that.

That is just more of t****'s vague empty lies.

[Jay25]

30. Yeah, I agree. Republicans won't impeach, and then they will be justly rewarded by trump.

He will no longer need their protection from impeachment and will announce and/or confirm his new political party. No matter what, he realizes that many of them maintained their seats while he did not, and have accepted Biden (rightfully so) as President, his narcissism is going to destroy what is left of a fractured party.

[kairos12]

23. Chump could have marched to the Capitol

with a gas can, TNT, a Putin Flag, and a M60 Machine Gun and the Reich Wing wouldn't convict him.

[gratuitous]

24. Keep in mind that a lot of our citizenry is not as engaged on this as we are

Much of the evidence and testimony is going to come as big news to a lot of citizens. Yeah, it played out on national teevee in real time, but that doesn't mean people saw it or if they did that they understood all the forces at play.

Let's watch the House managers lay out the case for Trump's conviction and see what defense, if any, is proffered. Every sitting Senator should be forced to answer for his or her vote. Those voting to convict will have a far easier time of it than those voting to acquit.

[Wednesdays]

35. I feel a sense of deja vu

Like we were at this point almost exactly one year ago. So tell me, were all the senators forced to answer for his or her vote?

[gratuitous]

36. No, but they had a built-in dodge

In the first annual Trump impeachment trial, Majority Leader McConnell did the bare minimum to claim he'd conducted a trial. The articles of impeachment were read into the record, each side made its opening statement, and they went directly to a vote to acquit. There was no evidence presented, no testimony from witnesses, and a lot of the material evidence against Trump was classified and never saw the light of day.

This time around there should be a fuller development of the record, evidence submitted, and testimony heard. Senate Republicans are refusing to engage any of it, preferring to hide behind a bogus argument that trying an impeached president is unconstitutional, which is a "tell" for how much they'd like all this to just go away.

I don't know how long the House Impeachment Managers are going to take to present their case in chief, but there are going to be a lot of really uncomfortable facts elicited that will cause a number of Senators problems if all they want to do is ignore the case against Trump.

[BobTheSubgenius]

25. I'm hoping for something more definitive, come the hearings.

I feel that these statements have to be read or heard within a particular context and with a mindset that wants him convicted.

[bucolic_frolic]

26. If you phone Mike Pence, absolutely do not greet him with

"Mike, how's it hanging?"

[Orrex]

29. His fuckhead cultists ignore all of that

"Show me the tape of him explicitly ordering the insurrection," they parrot.

In return, I ask them to show me the tape of Hitler ordering the execution of Jews, or the tape of Manson ordering the murders, or of bid Laden ordering the 9/11 attacks.

"Apples and oranges," say the fuckheads.

[Joinfortmill]

31. Scary

[lambchopp59]

33. Rump's been inciting violence of his lemmings for 5 years

Between the "knock the shit out of 'em" along with a half dozen other incitements, assurances that he'd cover lawyers for violent actions, now the Repug's want us to accept that these were just political rhetoric?
Sure, We'll buy that bridge, after all Trumpers are famous for their equanimity.