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Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:02 PM

The Boogaloo Bois Have Guns, Criminal Records and Military Training. Now They Want to Overthrow the


Government.

A good read about military and ex-military involvement in an extremist right wing group. I think it's clear this these are the types of folks Trump was referring to when he bragged about having the support of some police and military over his four years in office. These are just a few excerpts from the article.

"In another instance, an ex-Marine gathered at least six men at a wooded property in McLoud, Oklahoma, a small town outside of Oklahoma City, and taught them how to storm a building. In a video posted to YouTube last year, the former Marine, Christopher Ledbetter, shows the group how to enter a house and kill any enemy combatants inside. Filmed with a GoPro camera, the video concludes with Ledbetter, who served in the Marine Corps from 2011 to 2015, blasting a wooden target with a barrage of bullets from a fully automatic AK-47-type carbine.

Ledbetter called his training facility the “kill house,” according to court records.


Traditional infantry tactics wouldn’t be particularly useful during the coming civil war, opined Guerrilla Instructor, arguing that sabotage and assassination would be more helpful for the anti-government insurgents. It was simple, he said: A Boogaloo Boi could just walk up to a government figure or law enforcement officer on the street and “shoot them in the face” before fleeing.

But there was another assassination technique that held special appeal for Guerrilla Instructor. “I believe honestly that drive-bys will be our greatest tool,” he said, sketching out a scenario in which three Boogs would hop in an SUV, spray a target with gunfire, “kill some dudes” and speed off.





https://www.propublica.org/article/boogaloo-bois-military-training?utm_source=sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=majorinvestigations&utm_content=feature

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Reply The Boogaloo Bois Have Guns, Criminal Records and Military Training. Now They Want to Overthrow the (Original post)
jalan48 Feb 1 OP
Ilsa Feb 1 #1
jalan48 Feb 1 #3
dalton99a Feb 1 #2
roamer65 Feb 1 #14
no_hypocrisy Feb 1 #4
TheRealNorth Feb 1 #6
BComplex Feb 1 #7
DSandra Feb 1 #5
mahatmakanejeeves Feb 1 #8
DSandra Feb 1 #9
TheRealNorth Feb 2 #17
mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2 #18
bdamomma Feb 2 #25
crickets Feb 1 #10
Lars39 Feb 1 #11
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 1 #15
Lars39 Feb 1 #16
treestar Feb 2 #20
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2 #21
treestar Feb 2 #23
Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2 #26
treestar Feb 2 #19
Lars39 Feb 2 #22
treestar Feb 2 #24
Lars39 Feb 2 #27
moondust Feb 1 #12
AntiFascist Feb 1 #13

Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:04 PM

1. Murderers. Throw them in Hell's pit. nt

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

3. I agree but some of those involved are being granted bail which is very disturbing.

The subject came up during a court hearing in Michigan involving Paul Bellar, one of the men arrested on state charges in connection with the plot to kidnap Whitmer. “It’s my understanding Mr. Bellar used his military training to teach combat procedures to members of this terrorist group,” said Magistrate Frederick Bishop, explaining his reluctance to lower Bellar’s bail during the October hearing. Bellar, who has since been released from jail on bond, has pleaded not guilty.

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:05 PM

2. Expect bombings and assassinations from these terrorists.


They should be hunted down like vermin

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 04:23 PM

14. If they bomb and assassinate, they will be hunted.

Especially for the bounty on their heads.

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:06 PM

4. I always suspected that their need for guns, weapons, without restriction

was not for hunting or personal security. They wanted to use them against a real adversary, not that they had a better alternative to American Democracy. They go from playing in the woods to storming the Capitol.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:21 PM

6. YES

Always buried in their justification for assault weapons was the "defend themselves from a tyrannical government" defense. Of course, they really meant their weapons are to impose a tyrannical government of their choice upon the rest of us.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:28 PM

7. Excellent point. You're right: no wonder they go batshit crazy about taking away thier guns.

They had sinister motives in the extreme.

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:17 PM

5. They should be treated like members of Al Qaeda

No mercy on these fuckers. Even if it means preemptive detention. And the FBI and ATF should have detailed info especially on their training camps and members, as well as people on the inside.

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Response to DSandra (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 12:29 PM

8. "Even if it means preemptive detention."

I know this is going to come as a disappointment to you, but in America, we don't put people in jail because they might do something.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 01:33 PM

9. So are we going to wait till they kill a senator and a few house members?

No congress member can have a semblance of a normal life again out of fear of being assassinated. Are we just going to allow the terrorists to control politics?

These right wingers are abusing our freedoms and rights to the maximum (the right to free speech by using it to spread disinformation comes to mind.) We will lose our rights anyway if the fascists take over and not just that, but many Democrats will be imprisoned or even executed.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #8)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 02:59 PM

17. Be careful of the type of powers you want to give law enforcement

Those powers are more than likely going to be used against us.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #17)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 03:04 PM

18. Even if they're not, putting people in the hoosegow because

"they seem like the sort of people who would do something" is a antithetical to our legal system.

I was going to say "system of justice," but that's not always the case.

Thanks for writing.

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Response to DSandra (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:51 PM

25. Al Qaeda

is correct. They are no different.

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:38 PM

10. Good lord. K&R for visibility.

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 03:42 PM

11. According to the ACLU, the military training alone is illegal in all 50 states.

Why weren't these people arrested as soon as they started training? Was FBI afraid of another Waco or something?

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 05:28 PM

15. How many are in the FBI?

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 06:05 PM

16. Undercover? Who knows.

Willing member? Who knows.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #15)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:34 PM

20. It's not that easy to get into the FBI

It's more selective than for average cops. What a wild accusation to make, based on nothing other than anti-LEO sentiment.

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Response to treestar (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:41 PM

21. It is a valid question, not a "wild accusation".

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #21)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:44 PM

23. How is it valid with nothing to go on?

And nothing to raise suspicion on any single FBI agent?

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Response to treestar (Reply #23)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:56 PM

26. RW extremists have been found in every level of government.

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:33 PM

19. Did they have evidence?

And if you are one to trash the FBI over things like Waco, why would you then blame them for not doing the things you didn't think they should do?

You know so much about it, so get Biden to name you head of the FBI.

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Response to treestar (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:43 PM

22. Not at all trashing them over Waco response.

I think it made them skittish about going after them. I think we’d be in deep doo without the FBI. Didn’t mean to get your dander up, treestar.

On edit: I meant the militia’s responses, not the FBIs

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Response to Lars39 (Reply #22)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:48 PM

24. Sorry

I get too sensitive sometimes. A lot of liberals think Waco was handled badly. It's just to me lunatics like Koresh create a situation and then somehow more blame seems to go to the people trying to resolve it.

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Response to treestar (Reply #24)

Tue Feb 2, 2021, 05:58 PM

27. No problem!

I’m not always posting very coherently these days. FBI had no good choices after Koresh involved the women and children. I think they did the best they could.

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 04:04 PM

12. Any Azov boys?

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“Azov has been recruiting, radicalizing, and training American citizens for years,” the letter said. Christopher Wray, the director of the FBI, later confirmed in testimony to the U.S. Senate that American white supremacists are “actually traveling overseas to train.”
~
https://time.com/5926750/azov-far-right-movement-facebook/

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Response to jalan48 (Original post)

Mon Feb 1, 2021, 04:21 PM

13. Remember Waco..

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