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Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 12:53 PM Jan 2021

Steve Schmidt was the master of hyperbole when it came to trashing Trump

Some may have thought him the ultimate drama queen too, with his over the top repeated and dire warnings that the entire fate of America's democracy rested on expelling Trump from the Oval Office, and utterly crushing each and every fascist enabling politician belonging to the Republican Party.

Except every fucking word Schmidt has said has turned out to be true. Same with Michael Cohen and Mary Trump. Not one person has ever bet wrong over estimating the danger Trump and his followers pose to America.

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Steve Schmidt was the master of hyperbole when it came to trashing Trump (Original Post) Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 OP
Remember what Adam Schiff said at the first impeachment hearing last year? The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #1
Everyone here knew it to be absolutely true the moment Schiff said it. Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #2
Oh, they listened. But they were perfectly fine with letting it happen. Nt spooky3 Jan 2021 #8
Anything and everything is OK if we win. And have power and money. Irish_Dem Jan 2021 #23
What about the John Weaver news cilla4progress Jan 2021 #3
It's very sad and he's out, but I won't paint the whole Lincoln Project with that broad brush. hedda_foil Jan 2021 #4
We won't... cilla4progress Jan 2021 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author mezame Jan 2021 #16
How??? cilla4progress Jan 2021 #19
See Ramblin_Dave's Reply... mezame Jan 2021 #30
Who is Girdusky cilla4progress Jan 2021 #34
You might want to delete or edit your post in light of Ramblin_Dave's edit ? OnDoutside Jan 2021 #47
TLP has denounced Weaver MontanaMama Jan 2021 #5
Yes. cilla4progress Jan 2021 #7
We need to watch the NYT, Haberman MontanaMama Jan 2021 #13
About as relevant, in my book, as Anthony Weiner was to Hillary Clinton Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #9
Of course, Tom - cilla4progress Jan 2021 #10
Those who have demonstrated through their allegiences that they are not... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #12
P.S. (on some reflection) Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #28
Yes, sadly it fits the Qanon narrative cilla4progress Jan 2021 #44
But they look right past a Jerry Falwell Jr etc. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #45
BINGO... pbmus Jan 2021 #40
I'm a bit naive Mossfern Jan 2021 #43
I love Steve's hyperbole. He speaks TRUTH riversedge Jan 2021 #11
And now MTG has decided she wants an at-bat. Volaris Jan 2021 #24
The Trumpies are using the Nazi playbook stollen Jan 2021 #14
Not a fan. And I will never trust him. mrs_p Jan 2021 #15
Sure, most important election of our lives and all of that... Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #33
+1 Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #37
I 100% expected what happened mrs_p Jan 2021 #41
Well living where you do provides you with an excellent perspective Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #42
And as Nancy said, "with him (the Hump) all things lead to Putin" judesedit Jan 2021 #17
That is true...K&R... Demsrule86 Jan 2021 #18
Hillary warned us loud and clear judesedit Jan 2021 #20
It wasn't hyperbole. Dramatic, maybe even overly so at times, but not hyberbole. Silent3 Jan 2021 #21
Amen. eom Wednesdays Jan 2021 #27
Big PR Problem Roy Rolling Jan 2021 #22
+1 Ferrets are Cool Jan 2021 #38
Steve Schmidt is the political heavy weight that democracy has lacked after bucolic_frolic Jan 2021 #25
Aaaaand....right on cue cilla4progress Jan 2021 #26
Huh? Wednesdays Jan 2021 #29
Um, cilla4progress Jan 2021 #32
Agree !00% UCmeNdc Jan 2021 #31
Once you realize he stops at nothing he is totally predictable. SleeplessinSoCal Jan 2021 #35
True. It was his willing cast of enablers among the GOP who were harder to predict Tom Rinaldo Jan 2021 #50
Trump ALWAYS backed down when confronted. That person may have gotten fired or resigned ... marble falls Jan 2021 #36
Whatever Schmidt's politics are - and I believe they are right of where I'd prefer them to be... BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #39
He has long atoned for mountain grammy Jan 2021 #46
Rick Davis was actually the McCain staffer who found Palin on YouTube, not Schmidt BannonsLiver Jan 2021 #48
Thanks for correcting me on that.. mountain grammy Jan 2021 #49
K&R Blue Owl Jan 2021 #51

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
1. Remember what Adam Schiff said at the first impeachment hearing last year?
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 12:55 PM
Jan 2021

That what Trump did, he'd do again if he wasn't convicted and removed?

Yup. He did it again, and worse.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
2. Everyone here knew it to be absolutely true the moment Schiff said it.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 12:57 PM
Jan 2021

He warned the Republican Senate caucus, and only Mitt Romney bothered to listen.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
3. What about the John Weaver news
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:10 PM
Jan 2021

this morning?

Co-founder of Lincoln Project - turns out he's an online abuser!

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
6. We won't...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jan 2021

but their public image, credibility. Orange foolius will savage them.

They came out strong against what he did with their statement this morning...good.


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Response to cilla4progress (Reply #6)

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
5. TLP has denounced Weaver
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:15 PM
Jan 2021

up one side and down the other. While Weaver is a sexual predator, there will be those who try to sully TLP with this, unfortunately.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
13. We need to watch the NYT, Haberman
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:25 PM
Jan 2021

and other MSM on this. I do not doubt this could be an attempt to take down TLP. If it fails and I think it will, there will be more to come.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
9. About as relevant, in my book, as Anthony Weiner was to Hillary Clinton
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:17 PM
Jan 2021

Some people go wrong in their private lives regardless of their political beliefs and usually they try hard to keep it a secret from their allies. Without strong evidence of a conscious cover up for Weaver by members of the Lincoln Project, there is no association of any guilt.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
12. Those who have demonstrated through their allegiences that they are not...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:23 PM
Jan 2021

...were not going to listen to anything the Lincoln Project said anyway. TLP has a mission to reach perhaps the 10% of Trump voters who still have some rational ability left buried in them somewhere.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
28. P.S. (on some reflection)
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:29 PM
Jan 2021

It makes sense to acknowledge that this Weaver thing does hurt TLP even if not does not hurt them substantially. It might make sense for them, and for pundits in general on our side, to keep a current data base of all the Trump loving Republican elected officials, party leaders and bureaucrats, significant donors and major right wing activists, and Trump humping preachers who have been ousted or indicted for being sexual predators and/or pedophiles since Trump became President. A new name seems to pop up every three weeks or so and there have been so many that I have a hard time keeping their names and right wing roles straight

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
44. Yes, sadly it fits the Qanon narrative
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:44 PM
Jan 2021

about elite Dems.

Course, Weaver is a Republican, right?

Even tho a never-*****er.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
40. BINGO...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:32 PM
Jan 2021

And the truth is still the truth...no matter the sexual proclivities of one sick individual in LP...

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
24. And now MTG has decided she wants an at-bat.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jan 2021

Schmidt is gonna toss some wicked inside pitches her way, and Rick Wilson will sit behind the plate and talk shit to make her look for low and outside.

Welcome to The Show, beeotch. Never forget that you ASKED for this lol.

stollen

(419 posts)
14. The Trumpies are using the Nazi playbook
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:48 PM
Jan 2021

The putsch failed, so destroy democracy from within. That HAD worked in Germany.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
15. Not a fan. And I will never trust him.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:50 PM
Jan 2021

After he said Elizabeth Warren was a bigger liar than Trump, I knew his was just an act to get on shows and be relevant.

As for the OP, I think every one here on DU was saying the same thing about the importance of the election long before.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
33. Sure, most important election of our lives and all of that...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:35 PM
Jan 2021

I wrote my share of OP's about it, many did, but how many of us fully expected a majority of Republicans in the House to vote to throw out all of the votes from six certified State elections, and then actively participate in the whitewashing of a physical coup attempt on Congress? I thought my own fears were pretty extreme but I admit I underestimated what we are up against.

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
41. I 100% expected what happened
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:33 PM
Jan 2021

And then some. I was holding my breath until President Biden was sworn in and even now am surprised trump is gone. I’m in deep red North Dakota and know I’ll be one of the elites/academics executed if the crazies come into full on power. I live amongst these people and they are fucking insane.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
42. Well living where you do provides you with an excellent perspective
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:37 PM
Jan 2021

Not that I envy you for that though. I hope you keep a suitcase packed at all times

Silent3

(15,204 posts)
21. It wasn't hyperbole. Dramatic, maybe even overly so at times, but not hyberbole.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 01:58 PM
Jan 2021

Hyperbole overstates the truth. Steve Schmidt has been hitting the actual terrible truth about Trump head on, truth that only sounds like exaggeration because Trump himself is a real-life exaggeration of awful human and political traits.

Roy Rolling

(6,915 posts)
22. Big PR Problem
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:02 PM
Jan 2021

I’ll admit, I don’t even know who John Weaver is, and repeating him is part of the right-wing plan to get free airtime. And in general, smearing people for non-political behavior is the GOP brand—so it would appear to be a gift for anti-Lincoln Project PACs and operatives.

Except, who the fuck knows who John Weaver is? And almost everybody knows the name Lincoln Project.

Every mention of Weaver will strengthen the Lincoln Project brand, not diminish it. This weak attempt to take the LP down like ACORN, planned Parenthood, Al Franken, or Kathy Griffin won’t work because the Lincoln Project will fight back with a PR campaign of their own.

And I’ll take the LP media wizards over right-wing advertisement dinosaurs any day.

bucolic_frolic

(43,132 posts)
25. Steve Schmidt is the political heavy weight that democracy has lacked after
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:10 PM
Jan 2021

it was sucked into cutthroat capitalism and consumerism and self-interest with the election of Reagan.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
35. Once you realize he stops at nothing he is totally predictable.
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 02:53 PM
Jan 2021

If you say no to his demand/request, expect an attack and double down. Was this behavior recommended in "The Art of the Deal"?

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
50. True. It was his willing cast of enablers among the GOP who were harder to predict
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 05:33 PM
Jan 2021

Especially when it has always been clear as glass that Trump inevitably returns any loyalty shown to him with an act of betrayal because it is always about him and him alone.

marble falls

(57,077 posts)
36. Trump ALWAYS backed down when confronted. That person may have gotten fired or resigned ...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:02 PM
Jan 2021

... the best back-down was when the preacher in Charlottesville stopped his impromptu remarks and reminded him he was not at that church for politics.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
39. Whatever Schmidt's politics are - and I believe they are right of where I'd prefer them to be...
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:23 PM
Jan 2021

...no one can deny he's a patriot. He could have gone along to get along and still be a powerful voice in the GOP, but that was a bridge too far. He took steps that were probably difficult for, and damaging to him, personally, and did it with commitment and a certain ferocity.

BION, I actually had a measure of respect for him after watching the film story of Caribou Barbie joining the McCain campaign.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
46. He has long atoned for
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 03:48 PM
Jan 2021

taking Sarah Palin out from under her rock.. He's a Democrat now and I applaud him for it. No middle of the road Independent label for him. You rock Steve Schmidt! You've proven America is more important than anything.

Welcome to the Democratic Party which, despite any and all faults, is the party for America.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
48. Rick Davis was actually the McCain staffer who found Palin on YouTube, not Schmidt
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:23 PM
Jan 2021

That’s a common mistake around here. It’s all detailed in the book Game Change.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
49. Thanks for correcting me on that..
Sun Jan 31, 2021, 04:45 PM
Jan 2021

I saw the film but didn't read the book and definitely had the impression it was Steve, but I'm more than happy to be wrong about that.

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