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Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:37 PM

1.2 Trillion Tons Of Ice Melting Per Year And Keeps Increasing - F Coal And Gas And Petroleum

Supporting coal, and fossil fuel is literally attempted murder.

Of your grandkids.

Tax carbon, and subsidize renewables.

It isn't rocket surgery.

Gas costs $20 per gallon if you count the wars, and pollution, and that doesn't even include climate change.

(We didn't drop 7 trillion in Iraq because of sand)

God humans need help understanding stuff....

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Reply 1.2 Trillion Tons Of Ice Melting Per Year And Keeps Increasing - F Coal And Gas And Petroleum (Original post)
DanieRains Jan 27 OP
DanieRains Jan 27 #1
Cirque du So-What Jan 27 #2
DanieRains Jan 27 #4
NNadir Jan 27 #3
SheltieLover Jan 27 #5
roamer65 Jan 27 #6
DanieRains Jan 27 #8
roamer65 Jan 27 #9
hunter Jan 27 #10
roamer65 Jan 27 #11
DanieRains Jan 27 #7


Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:40 PM

2. Doing anything about it may affect the bottom line in the next fiscal quarter

This is the DU member formerly known as Cirque du So-What.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:48 PM

4. Coal Is King

Try installing solar panels in Floruduh.

https://industrytoday.com/why-coal-is-king/

Enjoy the wasteland kiddies.

Road Warrior is truly our future if nothing is done.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:48 PM

3. A good start at "understanding stuff" would begin...

...with understanding the relationship between so called "renewable energy" and dangerous fossil fuels.

It is a fact that so called "renewable energy" depends upon and entrench the use of dangerous fossil fuels by virtue of intermittent operation as the very low energy to mass ratio.

The posts on the wind turbines disasters being strung around the world in defiance of and contempt for all future generations are made of steel.

if one really cared seriously about climate change, one should consider how steel is made.

Platitudes are useless in the face of this very serious exigency.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:49 PM

5. K&R!

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:50 PM

6. The problem isn't the coal, natural gas or petroleum itself.

Its the 8 billion humans that are extracting it and burning it.

The stone cold fact is we have a overpopulation problem on this planet.

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:55 PM

8. The Wasteland On Road Warrior I Fear Is Our Future

Humans really aren't that smart.

There will be pockets where the trillionaires live fortunately.

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Response to DanieRains (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:59 PM

9. We are going to give the late Cretaceous Thermal Maximum a "run for its money".

GHGs are nearing the halfway mark of the late Cretaceous.

At 1000 ppm we will start to see the cognitive decline associated with higher CO2 levels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretaceous_Thermal_Maximum

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Response to roamer65 (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 02:44 PM

10. No, it's mostly the fossil fuels.

Nature will get around to solving the overpopulation problem if we don't.

Humans are nothing new, this planet has seen populations of many novel and disruptive species grow exponentially and then collapse.

But there are no amounts of fossil fuel we can burn without making our own situation worse.

We have well and truly fucked ourselves with most of the blame falling on anyone who isn't living a subsistence lifestyle. The carbon dioxide from our fossil fuel use isn't going away soon, no matter how many trees we plant, or how many useless wind turbines we build.

Fossil fuels simply need to be banned outright. Let the pieces fall where they may.

A society powered by the wind and sun would look NOTHING like the society many affluent people now enjoy. It's likely such a society couldn't even feed the current human population.

When push comes to shove, I think many affluent people will decide nuclear power isn't so bad, especially when they find themselves among the great migration of climate change refugees.

A beach house doesn't look so attractive when the waves are pounding against doors and the floors are covered with water. A house in the desert is useless when there's no water in the taps.

In such a world "wealth" will soon be exposed as fiction.

Economic "productivity" as we now measure it isn't productivity at all. It is, in fact, a direct measure of the damage we our doing to the natural environment that supports us and our own human spirit.


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Response to hunter (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 04:52 PM

11. Population reduction.

If the human race is to survive, orderly, peaceable and equitable population reduction must occur.

We must do it before nature does it to us.

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Response to DanieRains (Original post)

Wed Jan 27, 2021, 01:53 PM

7. If or When Every Forest From Florida To Maine Burns Like California

Ya think it will make a difference?

It's not like only California has droughts, and wind storms with lighning.

Read about Complex Fires

https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/How-do-complex-fires-differ-from-other-wildfires-15499342.php#:~:text=What%20is%20a%20complex%20fire,incident%20commander%20or%20unified%20command.

If half West Virginia and Kentucky burned would they still wanna go mine coal?

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