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Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:14 PM

I am so sick of these assholes claiming stuff is "unconstitutional"

just as a talking point to get attention.

If the Constitution covered everything people claim, it would be longer than the Encyclopaedia Brittanica.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:18 PM

1. The Constitution does address emoluments.

And the Supreme Court just threw out a case about Trump's abuse.
Can't charge him while in office and once out safe.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:32 PM

5. Clearly The Constitutuion states a Prez should not Profit from the Office

But that is only while in OFFICE! The SCOTUS bailed:

In dismissing the lawsuits Monday, no justice noted a dissent suggesting they all believed that there was no case or controversy remaining because Trump is no longer in office.



https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/25/politics/emoluments-trump-supreme-court-explainer/index.html

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Response to StClone (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 04:36 PM

13. How about the profits Trump made?

Every president from now on will use the office to enrich themselves.

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Response to iemitsu (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 05:06 PM

14. This is f'd up beyond my comprehension

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Response to StClone (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 05:09 PM

15. Mine too.

I've lost sleep for the last two nights over this.
I suspect it is the end of the United States of America.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:23 PM

2. That's a perk of being the self-proclaimed Night's Watch of the Constitution nt

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:25 PM

3. Sadly, in the US, there are really a frightfully number of really stupid people that

have no concept of what is going on or how the government works. They fall for most propaganda that comes along. In that sense, it is a really diseased country no matter how many try to think otherwise. Just the fact millions voted for Trump in 2020, and millions still give him a free pass is very damning about the US. And many of this ilk will take this "unconstitutional" crap and run with it as a gospel truth.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:33 PM

7. Hell, yeah!!!!!

"Sadly, in the US, there are really a frightfully number of really stupid people that have no concept of what is going on or how the government works."

And we just voted out one who was in charge of the whole thing!!!!

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:36 PM

9. And I hope he is barred from running for any office again!!! n/t

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:25 PM

4. It's unconstitutional if Dems do it

Constitutional if they want do it. The only ethic the repubs operate by these days is the same one employed by Orwell's animals: four legs good, two legs bad; oh, now it's two legs good, four legs bad.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:33 PM

6. The things in the Constitution

are defined by which lawyer has the loudest voice or the biggest media coverage at the time. Even that opinion can change from day to day depending on the direction of the wind.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:35 PM

8. Republicans said they would impeach Hillary before she was even sworn in had she won

Of course they never uttered a word about the constitutionality of that because *they* would have been the ones doing it.

Republican rhetoric is nothing but lies and hate and more lies and more hate.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:42 PM

10. Everybody on the gun forums are Constitutional Scholars

Graduated from the prestigious school of Fox news. You would be damn surprised at all the laws that are unconstitutional.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 03:58 PM

11. And it doesn't seem to matter that the SCOTUS has ruled on the topic.

Apparently the SCOTUS is unconstitutional, too. I've copy-and-pasted this lots of times, and the assholes STILL claim masks and anything a governor does as unconstitutional.
One guy actually wrote: "Nobody pays any attention to those guys."

People are bitching about state governors doing lockdowns and masks and like that.
When I tell them to read Jacobson v. Massachusetts.
The Supreme Court considered a challenge to a state law requiring everyone to be vaccinated against smallpox. Henning Jacobson refused vaccination and was convicted. The court upheld the law and Jacobson’s conviction.

“The Constitution,” Justice John Marshall Harlan wrote for a 7-2 majority, “does not import an absolute right in each person to be, at all times and in all circumstances, wholly freed from restraint.” Instead, “a community has the right to protect itself against an epidemic.” Its members “may at times, under the pressure of great dangers, be subjected to such restraint, to be enforced by reasonable regulations, as the safety of the general public may demand.”
States also have the power, beyond criminal law enforcement, to make quarantine and isolation effective. If presented with widespread noncompliance, governors may call National Guard units to put their orders into force, to safeguard state property and infrastructure, and to maintain the peace. In some states, individuals who violate emergency orders can be detained without charge and held in isolation...."

Note...from the Heritage Institute....
https://www.heritage.org/the-constitution/commentary/constitutional-guide-emergency-powers?fbclid=IwAR3lBfsiVKa8QODeylueITT1u2e-PRmPXvqrkopQInNON3ylpDp675yTrhk

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Tue Jan 26, 2021, 04:08 PM

12. Executive orders were unconstitutional when

Obama was president. I think golfing was too. Then there was the tan suit.

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