Is Rob Portman's exit good or bad

Will surely nominate the very worst republican. They will likely win.

They are an in-bred kind of crazy. We just don't have the numbers there.....

Not a crazy like Gym Jordan but a trumpist nonetheless.

It's going to take more than two years to fix the GOP

It could be Gym Jordan against Tim Ryan for the open seat. Ryan probably has a better shot against Jordan than he would have had against Portman.

The gop is shrinking, leaving a toxic sludge of whacko's voting in the primaries. Sure, there are a lot of gop voters, but a lot of those aren't primary voters. Some just show up for the general.

They may just want the most extreme piece of shite they see. Maybe someone with facepaint and a head dress.

I'm not sure we can beat jordan. he is very popular with the fox crowd. Hopefully someone crazier gets the nom. It won't matter vote wise in the senate. jordan isn't going to ever support a dem bill.

so, i would think it would make most Trumpsters happy.

What do you think?

Any Ohioans care to weigh in?

and Portman won by 20 points. But, I'm a New England resident, so not really qualified to predict Ohio politics.

I see his departure possibly meaning that he is going to vote to indict Trump.

One of the biggest obstacles to getting gop members of congress to vote freely when they won't run again is after office earning potential. Between lobbying, the speech circuit, think tanks, college chairs, and consultancies, they can make a large fortune after leaving office - IF they stay in line.

Voting your conscience can be very expensive for an outgoing republican. And that doesn't even touch on the thugs threatening to kill them and their families.

I wouldn't expect to see any sudden freedom being felt because he is retiring. Conviction will only happen if mitch is convinced its the only way to regain power. Right now that doesn't seem to be his calculation.

See what Arizona just did to Cindy McCain and Jeff Flake ...

on Fox News, OAN, NewsMax and a whole host of RW radio shows.

Portman is an actual conservative. I think he is leaving because it isn't worth getting killed for.

Chickenshits should not be in the Senate.

His excuse about gridlock. He is part of the problem since he voted with Trump and the GOP almost exclusively and also voted not to impeach the first time.

I do worry that Ohio could vote in a crazy whack job like Jordan or Bill Johnson who would be way worse. Tim Ryan would be an excellent choice.

I mean, he only looks good because the party has devolved into next level shitshow.

We are talking about the difference in dying by carbon monoxide vs ebola.

Portman was a less horrible death, but death nonetheless.

Odds are still against us, but less so than beforehand.

On the one hand, it's an opportunity to pick up another Senate seat. On the other, the reality of the situation is that the inept Ohio Democratic Party probably doesn't have anyone they can run for that seat who's capable of actually winning it.

Provided the election isn't hacked.

An editorial in the Cleveland Plain Dealer last year called Jordan the second most despicable person in the federal government.