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Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:40 AM

Does anyone think Republicans have changed stripes?

They've been the Fascist Party since they bought Reagan/Bush in 1980. Been 40 years since they promoted their thinking about selling out America. Today, of course, the payoff is a lot less.


BTW, anyone know what the Bush networth is?

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Reply Does anyone think Republicans have changed stripes? (Original post)
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 OP
JI7 Jan 22 #1
regnaD kciN Jan 22 #2
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 #6
dansolo Jan 22 #26
AmyStrange Jan 22 #3
FelineOverlord Jan 22 #4
dansolo Jan 22 #27
Mabel Jan 22 #5
AmyStrange Jan 22 #7
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 #9
AmyStrange Jan 22 #11
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 #19
AmyStrange Jan 22 #20
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 #21
Caliman73 Jan 22 #10
AmyStrange Jan 22 #12
DURHAM D Jan 22 #8
Caliman73 Jan 22 #13
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 #14
Caliman73 Jan 22 #15
OAITW r.2.0 Jan 22 #16
Brother Mythos Jan 22 #17
Celerity Jan 22 #18
LeftInTX Jan 22 #23
Meowmee Jan 22 #22
Blue_Roses Jan 22 #24
EarthFirst Jan 22 #25
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 22 #28
Yeehah Jan 22 #29
ananda Jan 22 #30

Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:41 AM

1. NO

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:42 AM

2. Well, for the next four years at least...

...they'll swap their Fascist Party hats for "Fiscally Responsible" hats, all the better to stop each and every Biden proposal "BECAUSE TEH DEFICIT!"


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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:47 AM

6. Like Trickle Down economics and taxcuts.

The 2 biggest lies told by people who benefited real time in their lives while fucking the future.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #2)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:40 AM

26. Four years? Ha!

I give it four days before they are back to their same old shit.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:43 AM

3. for prison stripes?

 

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One can only hope.
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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:44 AM

4. No

They have learned nothing.

They lost the House, Senate, and Presidency in just over 2 years and they still don’t know why.

All they will “learn” from it is to ramp up voter suppression, gerrymandering, and election fraud.

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Response to FelineOverlord (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 06:43 AM

27. They know exactly why they lost

They lost because more people were allowed to vote. Why do you think that the Republicans in states like PA, AZ, and GA are going to try really hard to roll back the changes that were put in place last year to make voting easier.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:46 AM

5. The party of deception and insurrection?

No, they are never going to change.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:47 AM

7. 26 million

 

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How much is George W. Bush worth?


Before he entered the political realm, George W. Bush was a successful businessman, earning millions of dollars in the Texas oil industry and from a Major League Baseball team.

Bush, who served as the country’s 43rd president from 2001 to 2009, has continued to build on that fortune since he exited the Oval Office.

He’s capitalized on the Oval Office with tens of millions of dollars in speaking fees and a book deal ( in 2010, he published the book "Decision Points" ) since he left the White House. At his peak, Bush was worth close to $40 million.

[SNIP]

https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/how-much-is-george-w-bush-worth
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Response to AmyStrange (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:13 AM

9. multiply by 10x

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HW by 300x his net worth when he 1st entered government service. how does that work? Oil / CIA/ Saudi Oil Contracts. What family benefited? The anti-Kennedys.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:33 AM

11. You're probably right

 

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26 million is what google says, but that doesn't sound right.

I had look at it again to make sure I was reading it right.
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Response to AmyStrange (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:30 AM

19. HWBush negotiated the SA contract, fucking Carter's energy polices and us!

Here's the payback. SA is marketing Battery vehicle solutions to US consumers. A whole new upscale brand of electric, owned and marketed by the House of Saud. Fuck us if we buy one of these non-American made jokes. Hint....Saudi's ain't building in SA, premiums to smart people. That is investment in education, in the most capitalistic sense.



What I want to know....will you come with me?

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:46 AM

20. You don't have to tell me about the house of saud...

 

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We should NOT be friends with those people.

Anyway, where are we going?
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Response to AmyStrange (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:52 AM

21. One piece of advice to Joe and Kamala Take 6 months to evaluate....then act decisively.

Keep options open and hold cards close. Make Unity Happen.

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Response to AmyStrange (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:29 AM

10. Ha! Successful businessman like Trump is a successful businessman.

W is a failson. He tried to launch a few oil endeavors that went belly up, but he was able to walk away from the disasters with a pile of cash. I suppose if people mean that you make money by hook or crook, then he would be a "success" but he is certainly not a "successful businessman".

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:38 AM

12. He's a Shrub! Remember how that one came about?

 

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Quoting from my DU (Unofficial) information Glossary (Dictionary)
http://dug.amystrange.org/index.html#shrub


Shrub

Bush, George W.


"Originally used in the Molly Ivins Book: 'Shrub: The Short

but Happy Political Life of George W. Bush'"

--arwalden



"This comes from the Spanish word 'arbusto' I believe Which

was the name of one of his many failed business ventures. You

see, he thought it was Spanish for "bush," when it really

meant "shrub." A minor but hilarious distinction."

--FlashHarry

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:03 AM

8. More like 1970.

Nixon/ Agnew

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:41 AM

13. For the sake of argument, let us presume that Republican at this time Conservative.

If that is the case, then I would say no. The modern Republican party has not changed other than to become more extreme in their views.

I have stated many a time, that conservatives have a core belief that people are fundamentally unequal and that some people are destined or even ordained by god to rule. This is the core belief developed by Edmund Burke and Joseph de Maistre who were Royalists, defending the Monarchy during the French Revolution. After the defeat of monarchy throughout Europe, the concept of conservatism dis not fundamentally change. It just adapted a new "ordained" ruling class, wealthy merchants. Conservatism is still based on the idea that wealth means that you are chosen. Of course there are racial and gendered overtones as well as religious ideas about who is favored.

It is this philosophy that keeps Republicans/Conservatives from ever really changing. You will VERY often hear, especially when there is abject failure, as in the case with Trump and W Bush, that, "They weren't really conservatives" which is to say, that the philosophy itself is inerrant. Conservatism doesn't fail, people fail conservatism.

They rally around ideas like "small government", "fiscal responsibility", and "family values"; but it is all bullshit. What they are really interested is in preserving the gender, racial, and religious power structure. They want to use the power of government to support the hierarchical structure, to keep those on top, in power and those on the bottom, in their place.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:47 AM

14. They stand for nothing.

Profit uber alles.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:53 AM

15. No. They actually stand for something. It is just despicable so they hide it.

Trump exposed what they actually stand for. White Male Supremacy. I think they can take or leave the Christianity, but it is a powerful rallying tool so they abide it. Conservatives stand for the power of the ordained, and the ordained just happen to be Wealthy White Men.
They certainly can't say that out loud. Not even Trump would say it that clearly and out loud, but he certainly got closer than anyone since Alexander Stephens or perhaps George Wallace.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 01:56 AM

16. Easier to say, it's all about the $.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 02:18 AM

17. I don't even believe it's possible for "the Republican Party" to change its stripes.

Individual Republicans may change, but not the party itself. After all, the party is funded and, in reality, "owned" by its big money donor class. As is happening right now behind the scenes, those big donors, who also control the world's largest corporations, will occasionally take steps to tweak their party's public image, if their pawns get too rowdy and out of control. But, the plutocrats' intent will always remain the same: to acquire as much wealth as possible by any means possible.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 03:35 AM

22. No haven't changed a bit

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:21 AM

24. Hell no...

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 05:26 AM

25. Soon it will be pin stripes for prison stripes... nt

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:25 AM

28. No but I think some GOP voters have become awoke.

However, I do think most of their elected politicians are psychopaths to some degree and are deeply brainwashed. They get elected on populism and then stab their voters in the back. Fascist is an appropriate label.

About all we can do is ring-fence their politicians and focus on affecting their voters with good governance. Perhaps some will follow in the footsteps of the Lincoln Project's founders and rebel.

Ideally, the GOP will continue to fracture until their billionaire funders abandon them but I'm not positive that will happen. I've never seen evidence that compassionate conservatism exist as a whole. Greed does, however exist in abundance.

KY

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:47 AM

29. No, they are still dedicated to destroying democracy in America

and replacing it with a dictatorship. Democrats should act accordingly and treat republicans as enemies of the nation.

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 08:02 AM

30. Not in the least.

They have reverted back to lizard form and it didn't take long.

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