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Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

Do you think Biden might nominate Obama to SCOTUS?

I sure would like to see that done.

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Reply Do you think Biden might nominate Obama to SCOTUS? (Original post)
MicaelS Jan 2021 OP
servermsh Jan 2021 #1
mucifer Jan 2021 #2
StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #29
mattclearing Jan 2021 #3
Johnny2X2X Jan 2021 #4
Laelth Jan 2021 #5
rsdsharp Jan 2021 #18
Laelth Jan 2021 #20
arlyellowdog Jan 2021 #6
MicaelS Jan 2021 #7
FSogol Jan 2021 #21
In It to Win It Jan 2021 #25
FSogol Jan 2021 #26
Celerity Jan 2021 #34
TomCADem Jan 2021 #35
Celerity Jan 2021 #36
FakeNoose Jan 2021 #8
GulfCoast66 Jan 2021 #9
Bad Thoughts Jan 2021 #10
Sneederbunk Jan 2021 #11
KentuckyWoman Jan 2021 #12
moonscape Jan 2021 #13
tman Jan 2021 #14
mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2021 #15
BGBD Jan 2021 #16
CatMor Jan 2021 #17
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #19
StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #30
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #37
StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #39
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #40
brooklynite Jan 2021 #22
helpisontheway Jan 2021 #23
The Velveteen Ocelot Jan 2021 #24
Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #27
StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #28
Liberty Belle Jan 2021 #31
tavernier Jan 2021 #32
msongs Jan 2021 #33
Xolodno Jan 2021 #38

Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:42 PM

1. He'd be great, but I want someone younger. :)

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:43 PM

2. I'm thinking Michelle will say no

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Response to mucifer (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:25 PM

29. I see what you did there.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:43 PM

3. No.

Too old.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:43 PM

4. No

We want someone as young as possible.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:44 PM

5. No way. Below Obama's pay grade. n/t

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:01 PM

18. I don't think it will happen, but Taft was Chief Justice after his presidency.

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:03 PM

20. Quite true. It's not unprecedented. n/t



-Laelth

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:44 PM

6. Biden promised a black woman

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Response to arlyellowdog (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:45 PM

7. I guess I missed that. n/t

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Response to arlyellowdog (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:05 PM

21. It'll be Sherrilyn Ifill. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:08 PM

25. I've heard District Court Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson

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Response to In It to Win It (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:12 PM

26. Another good choice. Hopefully, Biden will replace Thomas and Alito. n/t

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Response to FSogol (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:48 PM

34. I think it could well be California Supreme Court Justice Leondra Kruger, 45yo in July



Ketanji Brown Jackson is another who could be picked.

Sherrilyn Ifill is only around a year younger than Obama. Kagan was 49yo when Obama first started vetting her 11 years ago. Ifill is only 2 years younger than Kagan (now).

The 3 Trump SCOTUS justices (all 3 are Gen Xers) are all younger than Ifill (a Boomer) as well, Amy Coney Barrett closing in on 10 years younger.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #34)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:52 PM

35. Leondra Kruger Would Be a Great Choice

Not only is she currently a State Supreme Court Justice now, but she was an accomplished appellate attorney before hand who argued several times before the United States Supreme Court.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #35)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:08 AM

36. From 2007 to 2013, Kruger was assistant US Solicitor General and acting principal deputy solicitor

part of that time as well.

12 cases argued before SCOTUS.

What can we learn from Justice Leondra Krugerís arguments before the U.S. Supreme Court? (2015)

http://scocablog.com/what-can-we-learn-from-justice-leondra-krugers-arguments-before-the-u-s-supreme-court/

Californiaís newest Supreme Court Justice, Leondra R. Kruger, served from 2007 to 2012 as an Assistant to the Solicitor General of the United States. Hired initially by Republican Solicitor General Paul Clement, Kruger served under six different confirmed or acting Solicitors General. When Neal Katyal was elevated to Acting Solicitor General in 2010 he appointed Kruger as his Acting Principal Deputy, the second-highest position in that office. Krugerís appointment as Principal Deputy in 2010 capped an unusually fast rise, indicative of Krugerís innate skills as well as her ability to command respect from peers and, indeed, experienced colleagues much older than she.

While in the Solicitor Generalís office, Kruger argued twelve cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court (and of course participated in the briefing of many more). In five of these cases, Kruger appeared for the principal party (as Petitioner or Respondent); and in seven, she argued as an Amicus or ďfriend of the Court,Ē a position that the Solicitor General is often granted to present the federal interest in a case where the federal government is not the direct party. One of the unique aspects of the Solicitor Generalís role is how regularly the Court invites or allows that office to participate in oral argument, even as amicus, and how often the SGís amicus positions actually predominate in the Courtís final decisions!

This post will not survey all of Krugerís oral arguments; you can find a complete list and links to the audio of the arguments themselves here. (Interestingly, Krugerís recent appointment was apparently so speedy that the Oyez audio file site doesnít even display a photo of her, as it does for most regular SCOTUS arguers.) However, by listening to a few of Krugerís arguments, I think you can pick up some signals of what Justice Leondra Kruger will be like when sitting on the California Supreme Courtís bench.

What comes across most consistently and immediately in the audio files of Krugerís arguments is a remarkable ability to stay calm in the face of intense questioning. Indeed, her rare talent is to sound not just calm, but actually sensible and understanding, as she confronts a Justice or two known to be hostile to the governmentís position.

snip

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:45 PM

8. I was hoping Obama would become our next Secretary of State

... because he's awesome at diplomacy. However it's safe to assume that Joe and Barack have talked this over. I'm sure Joe gave him first pick of whatever job he wanted. We'll soon see.


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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:46 PM

9. No. Too valuable as a political ally.

As a SC justice he disappears. We have other options.

Besides, I would be shocked if he desires to be a judge. Once a justice he would have to totally divorce himself from politics. Canít see him wanting that.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:48 PM

10. She might be too busy

Perhaps Barack would be open to it?

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:48 PM

11. Yes, if he wants it.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:48 PM

12. I would not wish that on Obama.

He has well earned his right to follow his muse.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:50 PM

13. Hope not, but he wouldn't

accept anyway imo.

Lots of other young, solid choices. Why lock him up where we canít hear from him? We need him out here!





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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:52 PM

14. Obama doesn't want it.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:55 PM

15. I hope not. You want someone with courtroom experience. NT

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:56 PM

16. No good reason to.

Obama is going to be 60 soon. No reason to nominate anyone over 45 honestly. There are plenty of solidly liberal judges out there that are young and will carry that mantle for a long time.

Obama is much better serving as the parties elder statesman for years to come.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:00 PM

17. He's too vibrant a personality to be in that position for life.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:03 PM

19. I don't think Obama would relish the position

But one person I learned was on the wish list apparently per Rachel Maddow, is Sherrilyn Ifill, law professor and president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund. She was on Rachel's show a few nights ago, when Rachel popped the question. Ifill demurred. But that conversation revealed she's a strong favorite and looking at her creds holy moly. yeah we need her, she'd have my vote.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #19)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:29 PM

30. Sherilynn Ifill is a badass. She'd e an amazing Supreme Court justice

Sherrilyn Ifill is the President and Director-Counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, Inc. (LDF), the nationís premier civil rights law organization fighting for racial justice and equality. LDF was founded in 1940 by legendary civil rights lawyer (and later Supreme Court justice) Thurgood Marshall, and became a separate organization from the NAACP in 1957. The lawyers at the Legal Defense Fund developed and executed the legal strategy that led to the Supreme Courtís decision in Brown v. Board of Education, widely regarded as the most transformative and monumental legal decision of the 20th century. Ifill is the second woman to lead the organization.

Ifill began her career as a Fellow at the American Civil Liberties Union, before joining the staff of the LDF as an Assistant Counsel in 1988, where she litigated voting rights cases for five years.

In 1993 Ifill left LDF to join the faculty at University of Maryland School of Law in Baltimore. Over twenty years, Ifill taught civil procedure and constitutional law to thousands of law students, and pioneered a series of law clinics, including one of the earliest law clinics in the country focused on challenging legal barriers to the reentry of ex-offenders. Ifill is also a prolific scholar who has published academic articles in leading law journals, and op-eds and commentaries in leading newspapers. Her 2007 book ďOn the Courthouse Lawn: Confronting the Legacy of Lynching in the 21st Century,Ē was highly acclaimed, and is credited with laying the foundation for contemporary conversations about lynching and reconciliation. A 10th anniversary edition of the book was recently released with a Foreword by Bryan Stevenson, the acclaimed lawyer and founder of the national lynching memorial in Montgomery, AL.

In 2013, Ifill was invited back to the Legal Defense Fund Ė this time to lead the organization as its 7th Director-Counsel. In that role, Ifill has increased the visibility and engagement of the organization in cutting edge and urgent civil rights issues, while maintaining the organizationís decades-long leadership fighting voter suppression, inequity in education, and racial discrimination in application of the death penalty. At critical moments during national unrest following the killing of unarmed African Americans by law enforcement officers, Ifillís voice and vision framed the issue of policing reform and urban deprivation with powerful clarity in media appearances and public discussions. Her forceful and fact-based analysis of complex issues of racial justice has made her a sought-after speaker and strategist whose counsel is sought by government officials, civic and community leaders, and national civil rights colleagues.

Ifill graduated from Vassar College in 1984 with a B.A. in English, and earned her J.D. from New York University School of Law in 1987. She has received honorary doctorates from New York University, Bard College, Fordham Law School and CUNY Law School. She serves on the board of the National Womenís Law Center, the National Constitution Center and on the Advisory board for the Profiles in Courage Award. She is a past chair of U.S. board of the Open Society Foundations, one of the largest philanthropic supporters of civil rights and liberties in the country.

She serves on the board of the Learning Policy Institute and on the Advisory Board for the Profiles in Courage Award. She is a past chair of the U.S. board of the Open Society Foundations, one of the largest philanthropic supporters of civil rights and liberties in the country. https://www.naacpldf.org/about-us/staff/sherrilyn-ifill/

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #30)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

37. Amazing Warrior! Hard working, dedicated, kick ass

Did you happen to catch the interview the other night on Rachel's? If so, how did you 'read' her response to Rachel's question when she brought the prospect? I read her demur to be quite sincere, like it's the last thing on her mind. She's so dedicated to her work.

On the other hand, she could possibly be persuaded if she thought there was a chance and the President actually nominated her.

I think.

Well, I think it would be awesome.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #37)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:45 AM

39. Yes, I saw it.

She played it really cool. She's smart enough to know that if she's on the short list, she needs to keep quiet about it. And if she's not, she needs to keep quiet about it.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #39)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:49 AM

40. exactly. that's why I tried to read her, but I found it challenging in this case.

That's a good thing for the reasons you stated.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:05 PM

22. No, because Obama doesn't want the job...

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:06 PM

23. Why would Obama want that job?

He is living the good life. Retired. He gets to quarantine in that beautiful new home. He has an opportunity to spend time with his spouse. Their nest is empty. Iím sure they will travel the wood once the pandemic is over. The Republicans treated him like crap for 8 years. I want him to go out and enjoy the rest of his life.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:08 PM

24. No.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:24 PM

27. No..President Obama isn't interested

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:25 PM

28. No.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:31 PM

31. Two San Diego judges who stood up against Trump would be good choices:



Judge Dana Sabraw ordered reunification of families separated at the border.

Judge Gonzalo Curiel found Trump University a fraud and endured racist taunts by Trump on social media.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:36 PM

32. How about best friend?

That would be his most valuable position. That job requires a best friend, preferably one who has been there before.

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:37 PM

33. he's living the good life, why give that up to be a judge ...ugh nt

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Response to MicaelS (Original post)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 12:13 AM

38. Fairly sure that Michelle...

...has vetoed that idea already. Plus, Obama likes to be active and speak out, he has to shut that all down if he joins the SC.

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