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Martin Eden

(12,786 posts)
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:36 PM Jan 2021

I am reminded of Theoden's response to the evil wizard Saruman, who tried to beguile the king ...

... with entreaties of peace. King Theoden replied:

We shall have peace... We shall have peace when you answer for the burning of the Westfold! When you answer for the children who lie dead on the plains! For the soldiers who were hewn even as they lay dead! We shall have peace when you hang from a gibbit for the sport of your own crows!


Unity and healing cannot be achieved without truth and accountability. Do not let an unrepentant wizard set the terms for moving forward.

And do not take at face value entreaties for unity from unrepentant Republicans who attempted to overthrow our democracy.
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irisblue

(32,793 posts)
1. Martin, you do realize that you just sent a bunch of people to check that truth out via google?
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:40 PM
Jan 2021

But yeah, you know I know, DUers know and they know their cravenness in pursuit of power is absolute and unrelenting.

Martin Eden

(12,786 posts)
5. We have the box set extended versions
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jan 2021

And I'm currently re-reading the trilogy, which I do every few years or so.

The movies are great.

Tolkein's written works are even better.

Amaryllis

(9,523 posts)
9. Me too. Boxed extended. Always amazed at how they speak to current events no matter when i watch
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jan 2021

them again, which I do every few years.

Maeve

(42,199 posts)
6. Hubby has been calling Trump Saruman for some time
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

He can only convince one type of person at a time since his spells are so specific. If he has a mixed audience, he cannot work his magic

Maeve

(42,199 posts)
12. Let me put it this way..my eldest two daughters have the middle names of Eowen and Arwen
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:40 PM
Jan 2021

And my first pair of cats were Merry and Pippin

Martin Eden

(12,786 posts)
13. Beautiful names for daughters
Fri Jan 22, 2021, 07:53 AM
Jan 2021

And in Tolkien's books, Merry and Pippen were not nearly the carefree fools the movies made them out to be at times.

SWBTATTReg

(21,811 posts)
11. Ha ha...I didn't have to google his retort...I knew it by heart, as any of your Lord Of The Rings...
Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:59 PM
Jan 2021

fans will tell you, they know his retort by memory! And remember, this happened only after King Theoden and company barely beat back Saruman's forces with the epic but last minute arrival of Gandalf and the remaining kingdom's forces led by Eomer.

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