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Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:34 PM

Ex-GOP pollster Frank Luntz says 'I don't want to do this anymore' after 'unity' themed focus group

Shortly after President Joe Biden's call for unity in his inauguration speech, ex-Republican pollster Frank Luntz held a focus group evenly split between Biden and Trump voters to see what connected.

The Zoom session was swiftly derailed by shouting, crosstalk, disputes over basic facts and even deeply personal attacks, such as one panelist mocking another for sharing his mother's death from COVID-19.

"Saying it's tough is an understatement," Luntz said on Fox News Wednesday night before anchor Bret Baier showed clips from the raucous focus group. "I reached a point where I don't want to do this anymore."


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Luntz, who has been conducting various focus groups for decades and cut his teeth as Pat Buchanan's pollster in the 1992 presidential race, told Baier the session represented the fervent polarization gripping the rest of the country.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-gop-pollster-frank-luntz-says-i-dont-want-to-do-this-anymore-after-unity-themed-focus-group-goes-off-the-rails/ar-BB1cYt40?li=BBnb7Kz

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Reply Ex-GOP pollster Frank Luntz says 'I don't want to do this anymore' after 'unity' themed focus group (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 21 OP
JI7 Jan 21 #1
dawg day Jan 21 #3
dchill Jan 21 #2
frazzled Jan 21 #11
dchill Jan 21 #13
frazzled Jan 21 #19
abqtommy Jan 21 #25
eleny Jan 21 #4
Proud liberal 80 Jan 21 #5
unblock Jan 21 #6
OnDoutside Jan 21 #14
I_UndergroundPanther Jan 21 #7
UpInArms Jan 21 #8
I_UndergroundPanther Jan 21 #12
stillcool Jan 21 #9
Caliman73 Jan 21 #10
I_UndergroundPanther Jan 21 #15
nolabear Jan 21 #16
Whiskeytide Jan 21 #24
nolabear Jan 21 #29
Midnight Writer Jan 21 #17
zaj Jan 21 #18
Guy Whitey Corngood Jan 21 #20
KayF Jan 21 #21
ProfessorGAC Jan 21 #22
William769 Jan 21 #23
SWBTATTReg Jan 21 #26
RANDYWILDMAN Jan 21 #27
skip fox Jan 21 #28

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:36 PM

1. How about we not equate the 2 sides

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Response to JI7 (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:38 PM

3. Yeah, the one who said, "My mother died of Covid," actually is NOT being destructive

especially compared to the rightwinger who mocked their grief and loss.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:38 PM

2. You reap what you sew, Frank.

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Response to dchill (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:46 PM

11. Sow

Unless it was meant to say: You rip what you sew.

Just kidding, but I couldn’t help it.

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Response to frazzled (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:47 PM

13. Oops! Sew what?

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Response to dchill (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:01 PM

19. Darn that autocorrect!

🤗

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Response to dchill (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:15 PM

25. Actually, it's the tailor that rips what he sews when he makes a mistake! But I understand it either

way. And this is a very old example of typical Yiddish humor.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:38 PM

4. Luntz helped create the heat in the kitchen and now wants out

Bless his heart.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:39 PM

5. This is the epitome of both sides

It was the Trump voters acting ridiculous. Not the Biden voters
This is the DU member formerly known as Proud liberal 80.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:39 PM

6. Luntz has been a key player in radicalizing republicans and dividing america

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Response to unblock (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:47 PM

14. To be fair, he identified the touch points, it was the GOP that decided

they should play to what he identified.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:41 PM

7. Maybe

The republicans should just leave politics all together.

Because the practices of republicans like taking away others freedom or bodily rights,austerity, the lopsided income gap made worse everytime
They get power,well what they believe and how they vote makes them a pro fascist theocrat party which is very unamerican.

They don't have a platform because if we saw it spelled out in black and white it would be theocratic fascism. And opression/scapegoating of minority populations and hatred/exploitation of the poor. And corporate and state merging.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:41 PM

8. As long as you give them a fifty/fifty split

It appears their opinions should have equal weight.

They do not represent fifty percent ... they should face that fact first.

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Response to UpInArms (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:46 PM

12. They'll never admit they are minority

Because a hell of a lot of them are narcissists.

You cannot reason with narcissists.

Narcissists and other dark triad personalities need to be kept out of government. Disempower them,alienate them,reject them,and being unable to dominate anything they'll go away.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:45 PM

9. He's done his part spreading the bullshit

that's what happens when you play with peoples minds.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:45 PM

10. Yeah, sorry Frank, you don't get to be Flustered and quit, when you helped create the situation.

When you have to make up euphemisms, for policies for your party, then there is something wrong with the policy. When you call and Estate Tax or Wealth transfer tax, a "Death Tax" then you are creating division in the minds of people. There has always been division in this country and we have always had arguments. It was FDR in the 1930's who acknowledged that the "rich and powerful" in the country "hated him" and he "welcomed their hatred". We have always had that division.

Conservatives are solely responsible for the LEVEL of division in this country today. Liberals did not create a "liberal media" there has always been THE MEDIA, which reported (in so much as possible) the facts that were observed. It was conservatives that started calling it, "the Liberal Media". Conservatives started their own media companies to create propaganda rather than to inform. They have been backed by the wealthiest people in the country for the purpose of advancing a specific agenda. They have employed people like Luntz to make better words for horrible policies. They have used language to persuade people to vote against their economic interests by promoting racial grievance and xenophobia.

You worked for Pat Buchanan, one of the architects of this divide. You don't get to decry the polarization. You helped create it.

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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:47 PM

15. This👆

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:49 PM

16. You'd think he'd be better at doing this. You can prevent a free-for-all by a set of rules

and a heavy hand on the mute switch. Unity isn't going to come by magic. I'm involved in a number of groups working toward racial justice and understanding. We create the groups carefully, accept disagreement but crosstalk and abuse are simply not tolerated.

Talking is easy. Listening is an art. Luntz is not willing to do the work.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:08 PM

24. He WANTED a free for all. n/t

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:00 PM

29. Yeah, I know. I keep wanting to think they're something other than utterly deplorable.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:49 PM

17. Luntz is personally responsible for the fantasy world Republicans have created for their thralls.

He was Newt's close communications man, he tutored Hate Radio hosts in how to use the language to elicit emotional responses, he has written books (I've read a couple) on how to derail conversations and subvert the meanings of words and phrases.

He is as evil as any Right Winger.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:50 PM

18. Frank Luntz created this monster.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:01 PM

20. Does he still have "right wing Lego Man in Human Form" Newt Gingrich's phone number? Maybe start

with your boy. Let us know how that goes.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:02 PM

21. Frank's job here was to undermine Biden's call for unity

listen to some talk radio, you'll hear a consistent message, that "unity is impossible." So that they can obstruct Biden the way they did Obama.

This video supports that talking point, because Frank Luntz's job is the same as it always is. It has never been to report public opinion accurately, it's been to spin it to favor the GOP. This is why this happened on Fox News.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:04 PM

22. Gee, It's Too Bad A Zoom Host Can't Mute Attendees

"It went off the rails."
Um, Frank; you had control of the train.
It didn't go off the rails. You drove it off the rails.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:07 PM

23. ...

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:27 PM

26. I can't believe that this idiot didn't in any corner of his mind think that this was going to happen

where in the heck have you been at? Haven't you been at a trump rally? You would have found out far more about what trump fanatics think, and besides, didn't you see the gallows that these trump supporters put up in the Capital riots? I suspect that you need glasses or you are deliberately ignoring the facts in front of your face.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:28 PM

27. So Frank was ok with this as long as WE were nice

Your side started a war on the US, you can't say you didn't have a role in this. You have been running GOP focus groups for years and they FOCUS on the words you have been telling them and guess what, they are now ignorant of true facts because of it.

Take some responsibility for what you have done FRANK !!!

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:55 PM

28. Luntz gave us the adjective Democrat, Death Taxes, and so much more

but why should he have to suffer the distensions he helped create? Poor man.

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