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Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:25 AM

8 arrested after windows smashed at Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/protests/protests-planned-in-portland-on-inauguration-day/283-50a33cdc-a636-4d5e-acdc-5d33a7cb4635

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"PORTLAND, Ore. -- Far-left, anti-police demonstrators smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland Wednesday afternoon. The vandalism took place just hours following President Joe Biden's inauguration.

The group responsible for the damage marched through parts of Southeast and Northeast Portland. They first gathered at 2 p.m. at Revolution Hall in Southeast Portland, where they were met by police officers on bikes.
The crowd took to the streets about an hour later. There were at least 100 people, many dressed in all black. Marchers held banners that had various messages including "We are ungovernable" and "A new world from the ashes." "
"Eight people were arrested in connection with the demonstration, according to Portland police. Their charges ranged from criminal mischief, to possession of a destructive device, to riot, to reckless burning. While making the arrests, officers recovered batons, irritant spray, Molotov cocktails, knives and a crowbar, police said.

The crowd splintered following the police response to the vandalism at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters.
Police released the following information on the people who were arrested:

22-year-old Kyle Romstad of Portland, Criminal Mischief II
22-year-old Kaiave Douvia, of Portland, Criminal Mischief I
18-year-old Jean V. Paris, of Albany, Interfering with a Peace Officer, Criminal Mischief III, Resist Arrest
18-year-old Alyssa Hartley Davis, of Albany, Interfering with a Peace Officer, Disorderly Conduct II
25-year-old Austin N. Nuchraska, of McMinnville, Possession of a Destructive Device, Criminal Mischief I
25-year-old Nicole Aria Rose, of Portland, Criminal Mischief I
31-year-old Darnell Kimberlin, of Portland, Reckless Burning, Criminal Mischief II
38-year-old Davis Alan Beeman, of Vancouver, WA, Riot, Disorderly Conduct II"





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Reply 8 arrested after windows smashed at Democratic Party of Oregon building in Northeast Portland (Original post)
CentralMass Jan 2021 OP
Turin_C3PO Jan 2021 #1
Kittycow Jan 2021 #2
CentralMass Jan 2021 #12
Wicked Blue Jan 2021 #3
CentralMass Jan 2021 #7
bdamomma Jan 2021 #14
CentralMass Jan 2021 #15
bdamomma Jan 2021 #18
CentralMass Jan 2021 #19
ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #4
Botany Jan 2021 #5
moondust Jan 2021 #27
ret5hd Jan 2021 #6
CentralMass Jan 2021 #8
bdamomma Jan 2021 #9
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #10
CentralMass Jan 2021 #13
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #16
CentralMass Jan 2021 #17
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #20
CentralMass Jan 2021 #21
LeftInTX Jan 2021 #33
msfiddlestix Jan 2021 #34
superpatriotman Jan 2021 #11
Cuthbert Allgood Jan 2021 #30
dreamland Jan 2021 #22
CentralMass Jan 2021 #23
Wednesdays Jan 2021 #25
CentralMass Jan 2021 #29
Wednesdays Jan 2021 #41
CentralMass Jan 2021 #45
CentralMass Jan 2021 #46
leftstreet Jan 2021 #35
dustyscamp Jan 2021 #38
Sympthsical Jan 2021 #44
jalan48 Jan 2021 #24
Hortensis Jan 2021 #36
Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #26
Hortensis Jan 2021 #40
JI7 Jan 2021 #42
Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #47
Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #28
chowder66 Jan 2021 #31
Mossfern Jan 2021 #32
Roisin Ni Fiachra Jan 2021 #48
struggle4progress Jan 2021 #37
roamer65 Jan 2021 #39
JI7 Jan 2021 #43

Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:30 AM

1. Wingnuts

will jump on this and use it as evidence that “antifa” is as bad as the right wing domestic terrorists. As if there’s any comparison between this type of vandalism and actually breaking in to the US Capitol to execute opponents and overthrow the government. That said, these assholes need to be punished.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:31 AM

2. I'm tired of these thugs making my city look like shit.

Historically, we can't even have a legit peaceful protest without thugs showing up.

There's a lot of layers with police brutality, etc but that'd be an essay.

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Response to Kittycow (Reply #2)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:44 AM

12. It gets old.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:32 AM

3. Far-left? How do they know that?

More likely it's white supremacists posing as antifa.

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Response to Wicked Blue (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:37 AM

7. I've lived out here around 6 years now and history would say otherwise.

You can look at the video in the article and take a look at the names of the arrested, etc..

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Response to Wicked Blue (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:47 AM

14. white supremacists

or domestic terrorists. The far-left, that is a joke. Totally right wing lunatic fringe

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 AM

18. thank you for posting

nt

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:09 AM

19. You are welcome.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:33 AM

4. A 38 Year Old?

With 18 year olds, breaking windows?
Great example.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:34 AM

5. I might be wrong but this smells of a right wing "false flag" operation

Follow the money

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:12 PM

27. +1

And of course the Capitol insurrection was Antifa and BLM.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:35 AM

6. The ethos expressed more closely resembles the boogaloos...

than the “far left”.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:43 AM

8. You would think.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:44 AM

10. It doesn't make sense that any genuine self identified "leftist" engaged in vandalizing the

Democratic Party offices or any building government or otherwise, particularly in this moment.

I suspect we will eventually learn that these were in fact right wing provocateurs posing as antifa for very obvious reasons.

Just using history and logic in the context of current events.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:47 AM

13. This is not new in Portland. It would be disingenuous to blame it on the right.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:52 AM

16. what precipitated this? Why now?

Just trying to make sense why on the day of the inauguration? Why not hit the RNC? They're the fascists.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:55 AM

17. Who knows, there is an anarchistic element out here that feels the need to do this.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:28 AM

20. We have our anarchists in the Bay Area

But they only come to ruin anti-war and anti-police brutality protest demonstrations. They need cover of the throngs of demonstrators to march incognito until they see the opportune moment to break out and do their damage. Anarchists never come out without cover of protest demonstrators here.

I haven't encountered antifa, but observing Charlottesville it's clear to me who and what they view as the thing to "fight". White Supremacists, proudboys boogaloos etc. not the Democratic establishment.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 10:38 AM

21. I don't know if they have or need a cause.

Another link and quote.

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2021/01/inauguration-day-in-oregon-protests-celebrations-expected-gov-kate-brown-cheers-a-new-chapter.html

"Earlier Wednesday, a crowd of about 200 people, including self-described anarchists, marched in the city’s Central Eastside area and smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters. Some of the demonstrators carried a sign that read “We don’t want Biden, we want revenge!” in response to “police murders” and “imperialist wars.” Portland police said they arrested eight people."

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:18 PM

33. They consider Democrats to be "fascist lite"

(Read that on another thread)...Sums it up for me

Anarchists pretty much oppose any type of government that has a military, police, World Trade Center etc etc etc

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Response to LeftInTX (Reply #33)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:40 PM

34. Right, but I never associated antifa with anarchists.

So, maybe I'll take a harder look at some point.

But essentially I think the message to anarchists (for me) is simply to say: fuck off you deranged assholes. You're just as bad as boogaloos/oathkeepers/neo-nazi's/white supremacists and the so called "sovereignists" loons.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:44 AM

11. Idiots

So far left they’ve gone right.

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Response to superpatriotman (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:57 PM

30. Idiots? Sure. So far left they're right? Hardly

The far left of the spectrum is likely anarchists. They don't like government at all. They aren't in any way the same as the far right. You know--fascists.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 11:04 AM

22. How is it, that there are more young people being indoctrinated

Into the right wing message? That girl who stole Pelosi's laptop was 22 years old. It's frightening, but I feel as if they missed out on education somewhere -whether at home or in schools and they are looking for answers in the wrong places

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Response to dreamland (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:50 PM

23. These protesters are not right wing.

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:08 PM

25. You're the only one on this thread saying that

Wonder why that is?

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:53 PM

29. Do you live in Oregon ? Did you read the article and watch the video?

Do you know the history of these types of protest in Portland?

"Earlier Wednesday, a crowd of about 200 people, including self-described anarchists, marched in the city’s Central Eastside area and smashed windows at the Democratic Party of Oregon headquarters. Some of the demonstrators carried a sign that read “We don’t want Biden, we want revenge!” in response to “police murders” and “imperialist wars.” Portland police said they arrested eight people."

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Response to CentralMass (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:39 PM

41. Okay, I might have expected a response

but defensiveness wasn't the one I was expecting. I just wondered why there was no one else backing you up. Now I see that there are.

FWIW, from the start I agreed that those mobsters are no friends of ours.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #41)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 09:34 PM

45. I didn't appreciate your insinuation.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #41)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 09:11 AM

46. Really. What did you expect your reply was going to yield ?

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:46 PM

35. The poster is not wrong

In cities like Portland, Seattle, northern CA, etc local governments tend to be heavily dominated by Democrats - city councils, mayors, guvs.

The dynamics of protesting are different.

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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:09 PM

38. Unfortunately, CentralMass is right they are a left wing anarchist movement.

I looked around many of their twitter feeds and they aren't denouncing any of this. They are mad that their issues are constantly being sidelined by the people in charge. They want to abolish ice, kick out Ted Wheeler, destroy Fascists & white supremacists, end police brutality, & want justice for oppressed people. They won't stop until they get what they want.








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Response to Wednesdays (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:52 PM

44. I live in the Bay Area, the violent Left very much exists

And they love places like Oakland, Berkeley, Portland, and Seattle.

They're a mixed bag. You have your Antifa, Black Bloc, By Any Means Necessary, Anarchists, and others. I've seen the violence and the results first hand. And their violence has absolutely pre-dated the age of Trump.

When our side claims all violence is right-wing, we look like the same ones claiming those who assaulted the Capitol were actually Antifa. It's conspiracy theory at best. A denial of reality.

Look at all the big summits. The G-8, etc, where violent protests broke out. It's been happening since I was an adult. Did all those people just go away?

I promise you, they have not.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 12:59 PM

24. I think nihilists more aptly describes them than far left.

Nihilism

a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/nihilism

https://iep.utm.edu/nihilism/

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:02 PM

36. Nihilists, anarchists. Where RW extremism merges LW extremism.

Any attempt to designate them as RW or LW is problematic.

One thing we know, LW extremists are far less prone to violence than RW. When violence increases, that suggests those extremists have migrated right. Which is very common. The far left and right routinely recruit from each other. Look to Trump's and Sanders's populist followings in 2015-2018, before Sanders himself backed out.

But these are a different type. They really can go either way, wherever the strength is, but they're not cultists. They're destroyers.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 01:12 PM

26. Typical Anarchists, young rebels without a clue.

Wonder if someone will get into their social media activity.

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:14 PM

40. From statements, it seems likely the FBI and other services will be

enabled to monitor domestic terrorists more as they do international terrorists. The Republicans have handicapped surveillance of domestic terrorists. Who can be a very useful tool for enabling fascistic power grabs. Civil unrest is SOP from Fascist Takeovers for Dummies.

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #26)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:45 PM

42. Some are in their 30s

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Response to JI7 (Reply #42)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:34 AM

47. "Young" is relative. nt

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 02:59 PM

31. All of the mugshots are here

They remind me of waywards here in Hollywood. Some here are homeless, drug-addicted, mentally unwell, etc.
They cruise the streets together, ask for money and are not usually harmful to others but have been at times.

https://whnt.com/news/crowd-attacks-democratic-party-hq-in-portland-8-arrested/

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Response to Roisin Ni Fiachra (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 03:14 PM

32. You can't tell anyone's politics

just by their face.

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Response to Mossfern (Reply #32)

Fri Jan 22, 2021, 10:43 AM

48. Are you sure about that? nt

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:04 PM

37. Libertarians on parade!

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 04:11 PM

39. Far right provocateurs?

Makes me wonder.

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Response to CentralMass (Original post)

Thu Jan 21, 2021, 08:47 PM

43. Rose Twitter Types. They wanted Trump to win.

They claim to be left or progressive but the left can be racist also.

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