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Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:06 PM

Does anybody else out there think that maybe our cell phones have planned

Does anybody else out there think that maybe our cell phones have planned obsolescence Built into them?

Reason I ask, my phone is beginning to do weird things and a friend’s android is doing weird things too. both phones are about 2 1/2 years old.

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Reply Does anybody else out there think that maybe our cell phones have planned (Original post)
raccoon Jan 18 OP
onecaliberal Jan 18 #1
MineralMan Jan 18 #2
raccoon Jan 18 #7
MineralMan Jan 18 #10
raccoon Jan 18 #29
lisa58 Jan 18 #3
sarcasmo Jan 18 #4
ProfessorGAC Jan 18 #5
Johnny2X2X Jan 18 #6
whttevrr Jan 18 #8
Sogo Jan 18 #9
Buckeye_Democrat Jan 18 #11
Autumn Jan 18 #12
FreeState Jan 18 #21
Autumn Jan 18 #26
mobeau69 Jan 18 #13
DonaldsRump Jan 18 #14
maxsolomon Jan 18 #15
raccoon Jan 18 #30
Doreen Jan 18 #16
grumpyduck Jan 18 #17
Pobeka Jan 18 #18
moondust Jan 18 #19
Binkie The Clown Jan 18 #20
Chainfire Jan 18 #22
abqtommy Jan 18 #24
monmouth4 Jan 18 #23
tymorial Jan 18 #25
leftyladyfrommo Jan 18 #27
brooklynite Jan 18 #28
Iggo Jan 18 #31
marie999 Jan 18 #32

Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:09 PM

1. I know it is a fact with the battery.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:09 PM

2. What kind of weird things?

Not much to go on, really.

Like what kind of phone? What model? What are the symptoms.

But, yes, they want you to buy a new phone every two or three years. What usually happens is that the batteries on iPhones stop holding a charge very well. On Android phones, the latest OS update can't be installed. That sort of thing.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #2)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:16 PM

7. Phone crashed for first time not long ago.

Once wouldn’t turn off. Today two apps not showing but when I looked Into settings they were still on the phone.

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Response to raccoon (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:25 PM

10. Again, what kind of phone? What model?

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 06:11 PM

29. iPhone 8 Plus. Nt

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:11 PM

3. Yes- I love my iPhone 6 and when 11 was introduced...

My 6 wouldn’t hold a charge until I couldn’t stand anymore and I upgraded to an 11. I like my 11but I loved my 6!

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:12 PM

4. That's why I buy a 150 dollar Consumer Cellular phone.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:13 PM

5. My Phone Is Around The Same Age

No weirdness.
And, my phone is the bottom of the middle class of phones.
Much closer to the cheapest ones than to the high priced phones.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:14 PM

6. There is no think about it, they do have planned obsolescence

Cellphone companies are open about parts of this practice, but have paid settlements for other parts of it that they hid, like purposely slowing down older phones.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:20 PM

8. Absolutely, that is why batteries are no longer replaceable.

An older phone of mine lasted forever by just replacing the battery.

Once the battery starts to go the phone becomes increasingly degraded if the battery can not be replaced.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:24 PM

9. Most things - appliances, cars, electronics - have built-in obsolescence....

...having said that, I have an original Apple SE phone that came out at about the time of the iPhone 5 or 6, and it still works perfectly, for my purposes....

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:25 PM

11. They can easily create obsolescence later.

New software that's incompatible with old hardware, etc.

I've bought new computers many times in the past because the old ones weren't going to work anymore to view websites they used to open, and so on.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:26 PM

12. Iphones built the battery to fail so people would buy new ones. I decided then

that was such a dirty trick to pull I would never buy another.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:08 PM

21. That not true

All phone batteries die. It's the nature of batteries they have a limited life. This is not an Apple invention. In fact most battery usage statistics I have seen say iPhones battery last longer than androids do to optimization.

https://smallbusiness.chron.com/android-vs-ios-battery-life-63204.html

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:26 PM

13. Sometimes my iPhone rings for no reason. Nothing appears on the screen and no incoming calls show

in missed or recent calls. Does it about 3 or 4 times/day.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:33 PM

14. Phones suck. The Android OS, for example, on my phone can be updated

I only found this out after I bought it. i had to get rid of my previous phone because it could not run the basic apps that I needed it to run (and I'm not a big fan of phone apps; I have the bare minimum for what I need, and I am extremely hesitant to add more.) Nonetheless, I had to get rid of that phone too.

By contrast, I have laptops that are 7 years and older. I maintain tgen myself and take them apart if I need to, generally sourcing spare parts from eBay etc. On occasion, I take them to a local repair shop if I can't figure it out. However, my 7+ year old laptops work fine, even today, unlike my "smart"phones.
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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:37 PM

15. 1st, try restarting.

Maybe an IOS update?

try looking up the symptoms online. use a search engine like Alta Vista or Bing.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #15)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 06:15 PM

30. Tried that. Nt

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:41 PM

16. My galaxy s9 started messing up on different things about a month before I was done paying for it.

I went one month where I was without a payment. I had to get another phone. Of course my s9 was perfect up until then so I got an s10 and it is also perfect for me. Well, probably in two years it will not be.
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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:47 PM

17. Yes.

Samsung Android about six years old. Dropping calls, dropping texts, just acting weird sometimes. My tablet too, can't hold a charge.

Old stuff never behaved this way. I've seen it too many times. All this stuff is disposable.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 03:58 PM

18. I have a very old phone, android 4.4. Still works just fine. But

I have very few apps on it.

I want it to do these things:

1) make/recieve calls
2) handle texts
3) run google maps for driving directions.
4) play a few games.
5) When I get on airplanes, load the airline app for checkin, flight status etc.

I have restricted the power usage on it, at the end of a normal day I am at 80% power. This is the original battery. I got the phone 8 years ago I think. (it was not a new phone then)

I have had to restrict updates -- recent versions of google maps will crash (though they are *supposed* to work). Old version does what I need it to do.

I am also very careful with my phone -- I have never dropped it, and I don't set it down hard etc. Comes from a mindset that computers are fragile, and a cellphone these days is just a tiny computer, with a lot of little electrical connections that if fractured, can cause intermittent problems as the circuity heats up or cools down.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:00 PM

19. Apple has paid fines.

At least $27 million to France and $113 million in the U.S.

Apple fined for slowing down old iPhones

Apple to pay $113 million over deliberately slowing down iPhones

Apple's iPhone slowdown ploy was ridiculous, even by Apple standards

An Android user, I've suspected there's something going on possibly using updates to slow them down. It has become really noticeable after getting a new (cheap) 5G phone on Cyber Monday. Everything the new one does including app updates is almost instantaneous while my old phone is very slow by comparison.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:04 PM

20. hmmm. My decades old flip phone still works fine. nt

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Response to Binkie The Clown (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:28 PM

22. You beat me to it.

My flip phone has been through 6 kinds of hell and keeps on going. It made one trip through the washer and dryer and still worked!

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Response to Binkie The Clown (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:35 PM

24. Yup. We consumers have a choice and I chose to go with 3G flip phones for me and my son. They

cost about 20 bucks each and we pay around 80 bucks each for a years' service.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:34 PM

23. My old Jitterbug just dances right along just fine.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:36 PM

25. Every manufactured product has planned obsolescence built into the design

It's kind of interesting if you can get a hold of something that we all still use today and was available 50 or 60 years ago. If the 60 year old product was taken care of, it probably works as well or better than a newer model in some cases.

Case in point, I have a large table fan that belonged to my great grandmother. That thing will circulate more air than anything you can buy short of something industrial. We have all kinds of kitchen appliances as well that are amazing.

You might get more mileage with higher priced products but they will still done.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 04:51 PM

27. It used to be 2 years. They are doing better.

Now you can almost get it paid off.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 05:37 PM

28. No, but unless you further believe that EVERY Cell phone maker is doing this...

...you’re free to buy from someone else if you don’t think the phone lasts long enough.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 06:31 PM

31. Of course they do.

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Response to raccoon (Original post)

Mon Jan 18, 2021, 07:15 PM

32. I have a Nokia. 10% of the time when I answer the phone the other person can not hear me.

That's okay, everyone I know knows to just hang up and I will call them back. It never happens when I call.

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