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Nevilledog

(51,064 posts)
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:46 PM Jan 2021

Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani's legal fees



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David Nakamura
@DavidNakamura
Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees and the president did not appreciate a demand from Giuliani for $20,000 a day in fees, per ⁦@PhilipRucker⁩ ⁦@jdawsey1⁩ ⁦@AshleyRParker⁩ https://washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-isolated-impeachment/2021/01/13/0595675a-55b6-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-isolated-impeachment/2021/01/13/0595675a-55b6-11eb-a931-5b162d0d033d_story.html

When Donald Trump on Wednesday became the first president ever impeached twice in a bipartisan rebuke, he did so as a leader increasingly isolated, sullen and vengeful.

With less than seven days remaining in his presidency, Trump’s inner circle is shrinking, offices in his White House are emptying, and the president is lashing out at some of those who remain. He is angry that his allies have not mounted a more forceful defense of his incitement of the mob that stormed the Capitol last week, advisers and associates said.

Though Trump has been exceptionally furious with Vice President Pence, his relationship with lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani, one of his most steadfast defenders, is also fracturing, according to people with knowledge of the dynamics between the men.

Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees, two officials said, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president’s behalf to challenge election results in key states. They said Trump has privately expressed concern with some of Giuliani’s moves and did not appreciate a demand from Giuliani for $20,000 a day in fees for his work attempting to overturn the election.

As he watched impeachment quickly gain steam, Trump was upset generally that virtually nobody is defending him — including press secretary Kayleigh McEnany, senior adviser and son-in-law Jared Kushner, economic adviser Larry Kudlow, national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien and Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, according to a senior administration official.

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Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani's legal fees (Original Post) Nevilledog Jan 2021 OP
LOL. tanyev Jan 2021 #1
This is a great sign. Trump knows he's fried and will take everyone else down with him. TheBlackAdder Jan 2021 #34
Hopefully Rudy will turn on him. CentralMass Jan 2021 #2
If Trump doesn't pay his legal fees and starts to claim he didn't really know Rudy StarfishSaver Jan 2021 #36
Ha bullimiami Jan 2021 #3
Okay. Who saw this coming? underpants Jan 2021 #4
THAT, is indeed..... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #10
I've been using that all over the place underpants Jan 2021 #27
Ha! So now the Treasonous Asshole Cha Jan 2021 #5
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you... Hekate Jan 2021 #6
This guy should not be alienating attorneys right now RainCaster Jan 2021 #7
Wouldn't it be wonderful if that pissed off Giuliani to the point Dem2theMax Jan 2021 #8
Did you EVER hear the story..... MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #15
One problem PJMcK Jan 2021 #17
So... Any readers of tea leaves... Does this mean it is less likely or more likely that Rudy gets RockRaven Jan 2021 #9
Shocked! central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #11
Self delete Quixote1818 Jan 2021 #12
well looks like Kayleigh is not gonna get grabbed any time soon nt msongs Jan 2021 #13
Ha-ha! Mike Nelson Jan 2021 #14
Even a problem there! MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #19
so who does that leave for his legal defense team? getagrip_already Jan 2021 #16
Dershowitz in his undies? He gonna' do it when he sees this? soothsayer Jan 2021 #21
Whoever decides to do it better count on doing it pro bono. Or get the fees up front. Liberal In Texas Jan 2021 #30
better be an independently wealthy recluse who doesn't need to practice law in any capacity..... getagrip_already Jan 2021 #35
The Maytag Man is no longer the loneliest man in town.. Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #18
WOW!!!! What a great ad........ MyOwnPeace Jan 2021 #24
LOL...I like the way you think! Totally Tunsie Jan 2021 #25
Maybe he means that Rudy won't need lawyers after his pardon. NT enough Jan 2021 #20
Ghouliania not getting a pardon? n/t AntiFascist Jan 2021 #22
It's always somebody else's fault. BlueStater Jan 2021 #23
I heard Rudy was working on commission. Only got paid for cases he won Raven123 Jan 2021 #26
Bwah!1 UTUSN Jan 2021 #28
That's hilarious spinbaby Jan 2021 #29
Suck it Rudy, no revolution and dictatorship, no pay. TeamPooka Jan 2021 #31
Trump's right. BGBD Jan 2021 #32
Lol, he turns against everybody eventually! Buckeye_Democrat Jan 2021 #33
Ain't going to be any pardons Generic Brad Jan 2021 #37
I won't be the least bit surprised if Giuliani continues ... Brother Mythos Jan 2021 #38
Maybe he'll sue Sacha Cohen for back end points on Borat 2. Marcuse Jan 2021 #39
Trump would LOSE again Smackdown2019 Jan 2021 #40
Did Trump just lose his last friend? Nt TheFarseer Jan 2021 #41
I's just too bad the Giuliani has so little credibility left he can't be used for evidence against Nitram Jan 2021 #42
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StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
36. If Trump doesn't pay his legal fees and starts to claim he didn't really know Rudy
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:34 PM
Jan 2021

there goes the attorney-client privilege and Rudy can sing like a bird ...

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
10. THAT, is indeed.....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:52 PM
Jan 2021

the PERFECT response! If you did NOT expect this, call the coroner - you need to be seen by him.

Hekate

(90,633 posts)
6. I'm shocked, shocked I tell you...
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jan 2021

...to discover that Trump would stiff someone who worked for him, and throw a friend under the bus.

Dem2theMax

(9,650 posts)
8. Wouldn't it be wonderful if that pissed off Giuliani to the point
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:50 PM
Jan 2021

where he actually started talking?

(I know, he talks all the time.)

But this time, telling the truth?

I know, it's a long shot.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
15. Did you EVER hear the story.....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:55 PM
Jan 2021

about the "Boy Who Cried 'Wolf!"?????????

There's NO WAY ANYBODY could tell if Rudy was telling the truth, no matter how many times he included 9/11,9/11, 9/11 etc., etc...........

PJMcK

(22,025 posts)
17. One problem
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:56 PM
Jan 2021

Giuliani no longer has any credibility. No matter what he says, his statements are impeachable. The guy is a bald-faced liar.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
9. So... Any readers of tea leaves... Does this mean it is less likely or more likely that Rudy gets
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:51 PM
Jan 2021

his blanket pre-emptive pardon?

I could see Trump being mad at Rudy, so he won't pay him AND he won't give the pardon.

But I could also see that Trump sees the pardon he will intends to give as adequate payment, and so refuses to overpay by also paying cash.

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
14. Ha-ha!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:54 PM
Jan 2021

... Donald must be going broke... Rudy will have to write a book for money... how will they pay their wives?

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
19. Even a problem there!
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:57 PM
Jan 2021

Who would care to pay him to write it - and WHO IN HELL would ever buy the damned thing?

getagrip_already

(14,697 posts)
16. so who does that leave for his legal defense team?
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:56 PM
Jan 2021

There don't seem to be many lawyers left standing that will take him on. Once he loses the wh counsel's office and doj, he has nuttin.

Liberal In Texas

(13,542 posts)
30. Whoever decides to do it better count on doing it pro bono. Or get the fees up front.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:03 PM
Jan 2021

And wait until the checks clear. Maybe he'll be pro se - defend himself where he'll have a fool for a client.

getagrip_already

(14,697 posts)
35. better be an independently wealthy recluse who doesn't need to practice law in any capacity.....
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 11:28 PM
Jan 2021

because they will eventually be shunned, disbarred, or arrested. Maybe all three for the lawyer trump trifecta.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
24. WOW!!!! What a great ad........
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 10:01 PM
Jan 2021

IQ45 walking through the empty halls of the White House, or the closed casinos, or the vacant TRUMP hotels, or the hundreds of closed Sears stores, just mumbling about how SO many people have said, "Sir, I wanted you to be my Maytag repairman, but I just didn't need you......... (maybe a "vision" thingie showing Speaker Pelosi saying those words....)

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
23. It's always somebody else's fault.
Wed Jan 13, 2021, 09:59 PM
Jan 2021

What a little brat.

Not that I feel the little bit sorry for that shitheel Rudy.

Brother Mythos

(1,442 posts)
38. I won't be the least bit surprised if Giuliani continues ...
Thu Jan 14, 2021, 03:47 AM
Jan 2021

to represent Trump anyway. It's not a sure thing, of course, but I simply don't see Rudolph the Leaky Lawyer having anywhere else to go. Further, I doubt Trump has the money to pay for high-priced, first-class legal representation.

Smackdown2019

(1,186 posts)
40. Trump would LOSE again
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 09:07 AM
Jan 2021

Trump would LOSE again if he does not pay, in court ....

Clients have to pay lawyers if agreements were made on representation. Trumpo will be a broken man and perhaps the orange will fade away.

Nitram

(22,781 posts)
42. I's just too bad the Giuliani has so little credibility left he can't be used for evidence against
Fri Jan 15, 2021, 05:38 PM
Jan 2021

dump in court.

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