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Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:45 PM

Raffensperger held off releasing the tape till Trump lied about the phone call on Twitter




Jim Roberts
@nycjim

*Georgia Sec/State Brad Raffensperger had told aides not to release recording of the call unless Donald Trump attacked state officials or misrepresented what was said.
*Trump obliged with a tweet on Sunday morning.
https://nytimes.com/2021/01/03/us/


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Reply Raffensperger held off releasing the tape till Trump lied about the phone call on Twitter (Original post)
Denzil_DC Jan 2021 OP
Botany Jan 2021 #1
renate Jan 2021 #4
Botany Jan 2021 #5
Boomerproud Jan 2021 #12
spooky3 Jan 2021 #22
PufPuf23 Jan 2021 #24
KS Toronado Jan 2021 #25
Susan Calvin Jan 2021 #20
AllyCat Jan 2021 #15
Susan Calvin Jan 2021 #19
joshcryer Jan 2021 #30
Budi Jan 2021 #2
BigmanPigman Jan 2021 #3
Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #7
Sinistrous Jan 2021 #11
ecstatic Jan 2021 #13
AllyCat Jan 2021 #17
Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #21
AllyCat Jan 2021 #26
Cirque du So-What Jan 2021 #6
MustLoveBeagles Jan 2021 #9
Cha Jan 2021 #31
herding cats Jan 2021 #8
ecstatic Jan 2021 #10
Thekaspervote Jan 2021 #14
usajumpedtheshark Jan 2021 #16
Denzil_DC Jan 2021 #18
Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #23
TomCADem Jan 2021 #27
The Jungle 1 Jan 2021 #28
Cha Jan 2021 #29

Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:52 PM

1. So Raffensperger was going to hide the call?

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:58 PM

4. Good point

I like the idea of a Trump hoisting himself on his own petard, but I don’t like the idea of a criminal act being hidden. Maybe Raffensperger would have released it anyway and this claim just gives him a little cover.

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Response to renate (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:01 PM

5. How many of "these type of calls" has Trump already made?

Nancy should call for a vote of impeachment tomorrow in the House and then let the GOP on the
senate try to defend the indefensible.


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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:15 PM

12. The Repubs have been defending the indefensible since 2017.

They would just say what a leader and a fighter he was. Nothing improper or illegal here.

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:23 AM

22. My guess is at least a dozen to various officials in all the swing

States that went for Biden. His long list of crimes should be prosecuted.

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:33 AM

24. I agree with your prescription.

Neat and clean and enlightening.

Trump delivered on a platter for impeachment.

But I would be surprised.

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Response to Botany (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:35 AM

25. How many of "these type of calls" is what we should be asking

We know trumpig, pence & graham have harassed Ga officials, but he needs several swing states to win
not just one. Sooner or later it'll come out how they harassed Mi, Pa , Wi, and the sooner the better.
Like tomorrow would be fine by me.

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Response to renate (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:15 AM

20. Little cover from what?

The kind of people who would think this was okay if it hadn't come to light? Republicans are scum. All of them, as far as I am concerned.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:06 AM

15. Yup. Just another f***ing Republican out to defend himself.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:14 AM

19. Sounds like it to me.

Good thing Trump did what he is known for doing.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:39 PM

30. That's how they operate.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:54 PM

2. That's simply the cutthroat business of mobstering.

 

Trump should totally understand Raffensperger's move.



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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 10:55 PM

3. Keith Olbermann and John Dean seem to think

team tRump made the tape and someone in his base released it.
Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) Tweeted:
It was clearly recorded at the White House. That’s why Trump’s louder and clearer on the audio.
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Keith Olbermann (@KeithOlbermann) Tweeted:
If one man knows about White House tape recordings, it’s my esteemed friend Mr. Dean.
His conclusion: the recording was made AT TRUMP’S END OF THE CONVERSATION.
?s=20

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:05 PM

7. Assumptions that depend on how it was recorded. The NYT reports otherwise:

Officials in the secretary of state’s office recorded Saturday’s call, and Mr. Raffensperger told his advisers that he did not want to release a transcript or a recording unless the president attacked state officials or misrepresented what had been discussed, according to a person familiar with his direction.

As expected, that attack came in a tweet on Sunday morning, in which Mr. Trump claimed that Mr. Raffensperger “was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!”

In a response on Twitter, Mr. Raffensperger wrote: “Respectfully, President Trump: What you’re saying is not true. The truth will come out.” The recording of the call was made public several hours later.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/03/us/politics/trump-raffensperger-call-georgia.html

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:13 PM

11. Re: The relative qualities of the voices on the tape;

Isn't it possible that the WH had a better quality microphone than the party at the SoS's end of the line?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:18 PM

13. That's not necessarily true anymore. I finally got my hands on a recording app

that works on Android 10 or 11. When I put my phone on speaker, the caller is louder than me, even more so when I'm further away from my phone.

Also, trump has now filed a ridiculous lawsuit against GASOS, making the entire argument moot.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:09 AM

17. Yes. I have listened to another recording of this where Raffensperger

is louder than mKD

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #17)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:21 AM

21. Hmm. Does that mean there are two versions of the recording out there,

or might it be an artefact of editing (e.g. if the recording was in stereo, and one side of the conversation was panned left and the other right)?

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Response to Denzil_DC (Reply #21)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 01:05 AM

26. Not sure. I was driving and had Siri dredge it up for me.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:01 PM

6. Does anyone have the rump tweet that caused the recording to be released?

Thanks in advance.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:08 PM

9. Here's Traitor Tot's tweet and GA SoS's response

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Response to MustLoveBeagles (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:41 PM

31. Beware those words, trump.. ".. the Truth

will come out.."

trump walked right into his own TRAP!

TY, Beagles.. I Rt that last night!

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:07 PM

8. My initial impression was different.

Ms. Gardner was working a story. She no doubt reached out to the WH for a comment before publication. This is protocol and expected. Trump then worked on defense and thus the blaze story he Tweeted about.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:12 PM

10. I figured as much. trump can't get out of his own way.

The entire GOP is complicit with him. Brad would have assisted trump in covering up his latest crime had trump not tweet-attacked him this morning. SMH.


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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2021, 11:18 PM

14. Either way..hopefully this is another nail in the coffin of loeffler & perdue

If dotard shows tomorrow the whole rally will be a whine fest about “the phone call.”

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:09 AM

16. Given the topic and the parties involved, I assume that both parties taped the call.

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Response to usajumpedtheshark (Reply #16)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:12 AM

18. I think that's a fair assumption.

It been quite funny looking at multiple Twitter feeds where Trumpers are after Raffensperger's blood for releasing the recording, only to be contradicted by other Trumpers who claim it was released by the White House to show Raffensperger up.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 12:30 AM

23. Twitter reply:

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 11:29 AM

27. Perdue is defending Trump. Called Secretary of State "Disgusting"

...for leaking the call, which exposed Trump’ lies.

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:31 PM

28. All the kings horses

All the kings horses and all the kings men
Could not put trump in my White House again

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Response to Denzil_DC (Original post)

Mon Jan 4, 2021, 04:38 PM

29. Aha! That figures.. trump Hoists on his

own Petard TWICE!!

He begged for it!

Rt TY, DC!

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