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Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:19 PM

A Monster Wind Turbine Is Upending an Industry

G.E.’s giant machine, which can light up a small town, is stoking a renewable-energy arms race.

Twirling above a strip of land at the mouth of Rotterdam’s harbor is a wind turbine so large it is difficult to photograph. The turning diameter of its rotor is longer than two American football fields end to end. Later models will be taller than any building on the mainland of Western Europe.

Packed with sensors gathering data on wind speeds, electricity output and stresses on its components, the giant whirling machine in the Netherlands is a test model for a new series of giant offshore wind turbines planned by General Electric. When assembled in arrays, the wind machines have the potential to power cities, supplanting the emissions-spewing coal- or natural gas-fired plants that form the backbones of many electric systems today.

G.E. has yet to install one of these machines in ocean water. As a relative newcomer to the offshore wind business, the company faces questions about how quickly and efficiently it can scale up production to build and install hundreds of the turbines.

But already the giant turbines have turned heads in the industry. A top executive at the world’s leading wind farm developer called it a “bit of a leapfrog over the latest technology.” And an analyst said the machine’s size and advance sales had “shaken the industry.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/01/business/GE-wind-turbine.html

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Reply A Monster Wind Turbine Is Upending an Industry (Original post)
Zorro Jan 1 OP
Beartracks Jan 1 #1
Zorro Jan 1 #3
Chainfire Jan 1 #11
Klaralven Jan 1 #2
BusyBeingBest Jan 1 #4
mopinko Jan 1 #5
malaise Jan 1 #17
mopinko Jan 1 #19
malaise Jan 1 #20
mopinko Jan 1 #22
TheBlackAdder Jan 1 #6
rurallib Jan 1 #7
Kid Berwyn Jan 1 #8
FakeNoose Jan 1 #9
LiberalArkie Jan 1 #16
LAS14 Jan 1 #10
NNadir Jan 1 #12
LAS14 Jan 1 #13
NNadir Jan 1 #14
W_HAMILTON Jan 1 #21
NNadir Jan 1 #23
bucolic_frolic Jan 1 #15
yellowcanine Jan 1 #18

Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:28 PM

1. Every day a tiny company in my small town disrupts a billion dollar industry...

... if the click bait is to be believed.



But, yeah, that's a big turbine.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:32 PM

3. Well it is tinier than it has been in the past...

How the mighty have fallen.

But hope this market is one where they can make a difference.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 03:08 PM

11. Amazing! My community too!

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:32 PM

2. 100 of these would power 0.12% of the United States, provided there is wind for full rated capacity

At the end of 2019, the United States had about 1,100,546 MW—or 1.1 billion kilowatts (kW)—of total utility-scale electricity generating capacity and about 23 million kW of small-scale solar photovoltaic electricity generating capacity.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/electricity-in-the-us-generation-capacity-and-sales.php

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:36 PM

4. Cool.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:38 PM

5. my da foresaw wave energy in the 60's.

all he had to go on was a small book about the physics of wind and waves.
he built a model that he took to a physics prof at u of chicago. he said it could work.
a man ahead of his times in many ways.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #5)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:45 PM

17. very cool

Must make you smile - Happy New Year Mopinko

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Response to malaise (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 05:00 PM

19. one of these days imma go down there and see if that model is still there.

it's a musty, dusty place, so mebbe.
i just went on abesbooks and got what i think was the book. it's not the cover, or the exact title i remember, tho.

he also sent a telegram to bobby kennedy to tell him to keep his brother out of viet nam. and also, to get a hair cut. i dont wonder where i got my mouth.

eta- i've grown to appreciate the gifts he gave me. vision is only one thing.
his gift for telling jokes and stories is my fave. and i have his smile, but, sadly not his teeth. he had his first cavity at 63. i started losing my teeth at 65.
i smile so often when i think of him, even tho he has been gone 40 yrs this year.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #19)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 05:11 PM

20. Love it

Seems like your dad was quite a character. Clearly you have lovely memories.
My dad died in 1983

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Response to malaise (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 05:19 PM

22. i do.

i had my beefs w him when he died. but since i started my farm, and realized that he gave me everything i needed to make it a success, well, i stopped judging.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 01:52 PM

6. I guess they have to be offshore to protect people from all the cancer they cause. 😜

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Not to mention the billions of birds each one kills every hour.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:03 PM

7. This will definitely be worth watching closely

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:10 PM

8. Bigger sometimes is better.



...With a height of 260 metres, the turbine reaches almost as high as the Eiffel Tower (300 metres). Each blade has a length of 107 metres; the longest blade being used so far is ‘only’ 88 metres. On a windy day, this turbine can produce enough electricity to supply 16,000 houses.

The next 4 years will be used for testing. The results will be used to build even taller and more powerful turbines in the future, especially in wind farms offshore. According to experts, increasing the size of turbines makes wind energy economically more attractive. At sea it is cheaper to build one foundation of a large turbine than two foundations of smaller types.

Source: https://www.climatechangepost.com/news/2019/8/18/the-netherlands-is-building-the-worlds-largest-win/

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 02:26 PM

9. For over 10 years GE poured all their resources into nuclear energy

They believed it was the future for America ... back in the early-to-mid 1970's. Then Three Mile Island happened, remember that? GE knew that no more nuclear turbines would be built in the US after that. They probably still tried to build them in other countries, for a while. But no third world country could come up with the $ billions for just one nuclear turbine, so the entire nuke industry died.

Well it's 2021 and guess what? They have the technology for renewable energy that's non-fossil and non-polluting, but they've HAD THAT TECHNOLOGY all along. They just refused to support it or invest in it until now. It has taken GE almost 50 fucking years to finally see the light on renewable energy and wind turbines. Meanwhile our environment is destroyed almost beyond repair. Why is GE getting another chance? They'll make $ billions off these wind turbines, but start-up environmentalist companies will go bust.



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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #9)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:30 PM

16. It sometimes takes technology time to catch up, like carbon fiber in the blades and the super

magnets in the generators. The turbines have been following the tech of the electric cars.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 03:07 PM

10. I sent this around to friends and family to wish them a Happy New Year! nt

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:08 PM

12. Pretty disgusting thing, that.

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Response to NNadir (Reply #12)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:09 PM

13. ??? Sarcasm??? nt

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:10 PM

14. No, not at all.

You will not find a more vociferous critic of the wind industry than me.

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Response to NNadir (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 05:12 PM

21. Why?

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Response to W_HAMILTON (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 06:22 PM

23. Because I've studied it in considerable detail.

My journal here is replete with my musings on the subject of so called "renewable energy, much of it appealing to the primary scientific literature, and serious analysis of sundry publicly available databases, for instance the comprehensive database represented the Master Data Register of Wind Turbines at the Danish Energy Agency," published by the government of that offshore oil and gas drilling hellhole Denmark, which allows one to understand the lifetime of this trashy and environmentally unacceptable infrastructure.

I also have a deep understanding of what goes into the manufacture of wind turbines, and, for that matter, solar cells.

Like most political liberals, I started with a default belief that so called "renewable energy" would be an environmental positive. However, as a person who questions my own assumptions, I changed my mind, dramatically and irrevocably.

The rote assumption that the so called "renewable energy" is an environmental plus doesn't hold up to scrutiny. As someone who regularly reads intensely and seriously about environmental issues, in particular, those related to carbon dioxide, other climate change gases and the subject of climate change itself, I have come to recognize, as evidenced by the Danish Energy Agencies website, and a thousand other sources, the wind industry is nothing more than lipstick on the oil and gas industry pig.

Despite the expenditure of trillions of dollars, on it, wild eyed public enthusiasm for it, and vast hopes sunk in it, so called "renewable energy" has not worked, is not working and will not work to address climate change. The reason is physics, connected to the energy to mass ratio of so called renewable energy, as well as the requirement for thermodynamically and thus environmentally pernicious requirements for redundancy and intermittent production.

In fact things are getting worse faster than ever, rather than better at a even a snail's pace. In 2000, the rate of accumulation of carbon dioxide, as recorded in a 12 month running data year to year comparison with 10 years previous was, as of the third week of December 2010, was 2.03 ppm per year. As of the same week of 2020, it was 2.43 ppm/year. I note for that the first two decades of the 21st century it was 2.43 ppm per year.

I favor things that work, where "work" involves meeting the very serious environmental destruction now underway.

I strongly believe that the only viable means to address climate change is the rapid expansion of nuclear energy. I know that this is not popular, and flies in the face of the massively repeated dogma that circulates but I'd rather be truthful than popular.

As I often say, "history will not forgive us, nor should it."

I trust this answers your question. Thanks for asking.

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:11 PM

15. Won't want to be there when a storm crashes these things

I guess that's why offshore, can't have it in populated areas, can they?

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Response to Zorro (Original post)

Fri Jan 1, 2021, 04:52 PM

18. I suggest one within sight of every Trump golf course.

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