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barbtries

(28,787 posts)
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:37 AM Dec 2020

another reason I won't quit facebook.

I've mentioned before that my local Democratic groups are on there. I've also said that my extended family, scattered all over the US, is on there. I have relationships with nieces, great nieces, nephews, etc, I've never met in real life, and cherish that.

Just yesterday I attended a fb live feed in which my great niece learned she is having a boy! and then her boyfriend kneeled, put a ring on her finger, and I was able to be there and share that moment.

But there's even another reason. In 2001 my daughter was killed 13 days after her 21st birthday. Through the years I have heard, through facebook, from friends of hers, some I had never even met myself. Her memorial page on facebook was created by one of those friends and we met at Bekah's grave in 2018 for the first time. The little girl who lived next door when Bekah was 6 reached out around that time and we met at Bekah's grave in 2019; hadn't seen each other in over 25 years. And more. 5 years after she died; 10 years after she died; 15 years after she died.

Her best friend from grade school just messaged me yesterday; I haven't seen nor heard from her since Bekah's funeral. I knew she'd married and did not know her last name. She had moved to a different state before Bekah's death.

It's hard to try to explain how it makes me feel as a mother to know that all these years later, Bekah truly is not forgotten. It means a lot. My girl inspired so much love and touched so many people. It's a gift and I will keep that avenue open as long as I can.

Here's Bekah (left) with her best friend in 4th grade. They were so prim and proper and young and beautiful.

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another reason I won't quit facebook. (Original Post) barbtries Dec 2020 OP
Thank you for sharing. For all the bad things people attribute to FB, it does serve a good purpose CurtEastPoint Dec 2020 #1
thank you CurtEastPoint barbtries Dec 2020 #2
Totally agree DownriverDem Dec 2020 #26
Liker. barbtries Dec 2020 #53
I would never have made it through this pandemic Brainstormy Dec 2020 #3
I'd probably put DU ahead of fb barbtries Dec 2020 #5
Well said MaryMagdaline Dec 2020 #25
Beautiful photo Rorey Dec 2020 #4
i post all the time. barbtries Dec 2020 #6
It is the same kind of thing that keeps me there Bettie Dec 2020 #7
you too Bettie! barbtries Dec 2020 #9
That is so sweet! She was a lovely young woman Bettie Dec 2020 #14
mine either, barbtries Dec 2020 #17
She went to Mira Costa High School in Manhattan Beach ? JI7 Dec 2020 #19
yes. barbtries Dec 2020 #24
Didn't go to Mira Costa myself but I'm familiar with JI7 Dec 2020 #31
welcome neighbor. barbtries Dec 2020 #34
I'm sure we have even crossed paths at times through the years JI7 Dec 2020 #81
that is my goal. barbtries Dec 2020 #83
It is good that there is a memorial page on Facebook PatSeg Dec 2020 #30
right. barbtries Dec 2020 #33
I am the same way PatSeg Dec 2020 #39
Your daughter is lovely LeftInTX Dec 2020 #50
yeah. I had a geocities page. barbtries Dec 2020 #52
It is so wonderful that Facebook has brought you this comfort. Freedomofspeech Dec 2020 #8
She was. barbtries Dec 2020 #11
My brother was 21 when he was killed in a plane crash on his way to Vietnam... Freedomofspeech Dec 2020 #13
Love and peace to you. barbtries Dec 2020 #15
Thank you snowybirdie Dec 2020 #10
hope so. barbtries Dec 2020 #12
What a lovely photo malaise Dec 2020 #16
Thank you Malaise. barbtries Dec 2020 #20
THIS malaise Dec 2020 #28
right there w you sister. mopinko Dec 2020 #18
thank you mopinko. barbtries Dec 2020 #21
I think Rebl2 Dec 2020 #22
it is a damn shame barbtries Dec 2020 #23
Thank you for sharing your story PatSeg Dec 2020 #27
I'm so sorry for your loss. barbtries Dec 2020 #29
Oh, that brings back memories PatSeg Dec 2020 #37
Sorry for the loss of your daughter XanaDUer2 Dec 2020 #32
that is the best part about it. barbtries Dec 2020 #60
yes, I agree about FB totally. It's how I have met local Dems. LymphocyteLover Dec 2020 #35
that's a big thing. barbtries Dec 2020 #63
that's a good point LymphocyteLover Dec 2020 #73
Those are the kinds of thing for which Facebook was created. GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #36
i've instructed my children barbtries Dec 2020 #57
This is a beautiful story about love and memories mountain grammy Dec 2020 #38
thanks mountain grammy. barbtries Dec 2020 #59
Is this who I think it is? Capperdan Dec 2020 #40
Happy 2021 Capperdan barbtries Dec 2020 #45
Thank you, so sorry again Capperdan Dec 2020 #67
my condolences to those who have lost loved ones - but the ability to touch those who yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #41
It's literally priceless to me barbtries Dec 2020 #49
That was the only reason seta1950 Dec 2020 #42
that was your choice and i respect it. barbtries Dec 2020 #46
All very OldkySoul Dec 2020 #43
well, the problems with facebook barbtries Dec 2020 #47
I use FB for messaging and seeing pictures of my family. marie999 Dec 2020 #44
Thanks, barbtries, for your support of Facebook users, often so condemned here. It really helps me NBachers Dec 2020 #48
i'm not for hating on anyone who uses fb, barbtries Dec 2020 #51
The gift that Facebook has provided to us is priceless. It's like a thorned rose. Chemisse Dec 2020 #54
thank you : barbtries Dec 2020 #55
MeWe is similar to Facebook but prioritizes privacy. Chemisse Dec 2020 #56
maybe i'll check it out. barbtries Dec 2020 #58
I cancelled my FB many years ago but just signed up again to better connect with my nephews chowder66 Dec 2020 #61
so, here's what i do. barbtries Dec 2020 #62
Thanks for the tips. I haven't yet fiddled with the settings which I may do today. nt chowder66 Dec 2020 #64
You can set up a private group catchnrelease Dec 2020 #85
That's a good idea! TY chowder66 Dec 2020 #87
I'm so glad you still have FB for those moments and connections citizen blues Dec 2020 #65
i can't imagine why. barbtries Dec 2020 #66
I tried opening new accounts twice... citizen blues Dec 2020 #74
Your story is certainly heartwarming and persuasive, BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #68
Thanks BobTheSubgenius barbtries Dec 2020 #70
🌸🌸🌸 Hekate Dec 2020 #69
Our beautiful Becky was close to your Alliepoo Dec 2020 #71
Oh Alliepoo, barbtries Dec 2020 #72
The 2 occupants of the car that hit Becky Alliepoo Dec 2020 #76
it's almost a second crime barbtries Dec 2020 #78
barbtries, my heart goes out to you and everyone else yonder Dec 2020 #75
thank you yonder barbtries Dec 2020 #77
Very sad... Mike Nelson Dec 2020 #79
i don't doubt at all that his sister was happy you remembered her brother. barbtries Dec 2020 #80
Thank you dai13sy Dec 2020 #82
it is. barbtries Dec 2020 #84
Thank you for sharing , two such beautiful girls 💝 💖 Raine Dec 2020 #86
Thank you. Using Facebook has helped us get our French resident cards and driving licences GoneOffShore Dec 2020 #88

CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
1. Thank you for sharing. For all the bad things people attribute to FB, it does serve a good purpose
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:45 AM
Dec 2020

for many people, in many ways. It's a tool and must be used carefully.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your daughter. It's nice to know her memory lives on .

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
2. thank you CurtEastPoint
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:50 AM
Dec 2020

i have had to block the son of one of my best friends because he was stalking me with the most absurd propaganda. the final straw was when he claimed Sandy Hook was a hoax.

I have a blocked list of probably over 1000 users and it grows all the time. Also I have a policy of verifying anything with a quick search, depending on the source. If i can't find it I won't share it. I know I live in a liberal bubble but do my best. Still clinging to reality if you will.

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
26. Totally agree
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:00 AM
Dec 2020

So sorry for your loss, but happy for what you have found on FB. I have lost righties who I didn't know were trumpers, but I have found folks who are true Dems and that has been a comfort. I am also on Liker where there are a lot of folks who lean left.

Brainstormy

(2,380 posts)
3. I would never have made it through this pandemic
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:55 AM
Dec 2020

at least with my sanity, without Facebook. Without the constant support, encouragement, and laughs from the hundreds of people I know personally, and some I've come to know, this would have been a much sadder time. I learn when people have died, have moved, have had babies or grand babies. I can share in their successes and failures. Nothing else on the internet provides the connections, and the easy dialogue that Facebook offers. Like you, all my political groups are on FB, and my hobby group which is important on a daily basis. The central thing though is that Facebook encourages genuine human connections. It would be the absolute last thing I gave up on the web.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
5. I'd probably put DU ahead of fb
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:07 AM
Dec 2020

if i had to give up everything but one, but yes. FB has helped me through this pandemic. Alone, but not alone.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
4. Beautiful photo
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:01 AM
Dec 2020

I'm so sorry for your loss.

I also am not going to quit FB. It's a valuable research tool. I'm using it now to keep tabs on my brother. We don't really keep in touch at all, sometimes going a year or two without contact, but he's still my brother.

It's also an easy way to keep up with extended family. My own page is completely locked down, and I rarely post, but I don't fault someone who does.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
6. i post all the time.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:11 AM
Dec 2020

including political stuff. I've been asked to refrain but my stock response is, "I'm raising consciousness."

Almost daily I post a link about covid. The death toll is so high that people just don't want to confront it, but the danger remains for anyone still alive.

But the personal part is the one that I can NOT give up. When I got the friend request this morning I had no idea who this person was! Then I went to her page and there was her maiden name, and a message from her telling me how much she still thinks about Bekah and how much she loves her. She has a little girl now about the same age they were when they became friends.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
7. It is the same kind of thing that keeps me there
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:14 AM
Dec 2020

I am part of a group of women who all lost babies around the same time, over 20 years ago. We went from an email list to a yahoo group to Facebook. It has been 22 years since we lost our daughter at birth and these women are such an important part of my life, we've all seen each other through so much, including the cancer death of one of us.

Facebook is awful sometimes, but when it is good, it is worthwhile.

Sorry for your loss.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
9. you too Bettie!
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:19 AM
Dec 2020

Back when Bekah died, I made a yahoo group to memorialize her. it may still be out there, but hasn't been touched for years. Her memorial page was created by a friend of hers who asked me first. Now it's still there, but we can't get into it because he forgot what email he used and the password. We spent an hour trying to get into it with no luck. but it can be tagged and pictures shared and gets a fair amount of attention.

It's a treasure for me.

https://www.facebook.com/bekah.zaskmemorialpage

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
14. That is so sweet! She was a lovely young woman
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:28 AM
Dec 2020

I had to laugh at forgetting the email the page was made under though, I've seen that happen a lot over the years to many people. Me? My email never changes!

JI7

(89,246 posts)
31. Didn't go to Mira Costa myself but I'm familiar with
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:14 AM
Dec 2020

the south bay area. I currently work in Hermosa Beach .

I graduated high school in 1997 and went to schools in Lomita, Torrance , Gardena while growing up.


barbtries

(28,787 posts)
34. welcome neighbor.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:21 AM
Dec 2020

you're in Bekah's peer group. We probably know some of the same people.
I went to Torrance High.
My oldest son lives in El Segundo. He plumbed a bunch of those great houses in Hermosa.
I worked at Gardena Glass for 18 years, on Western and 162nd.
I'm still homesick after over 13 years in NC. In fact, one of the worst things about 2020 is it's the only year since I moved that I didn't get to go home even once.

JI7

(89,246 posts)
81. I'm sure we have even crossed paths at times through the years
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:12 PM
Dec 2020

maybe just at the mall or beach or any number of places.

I have actually considered moving and NC has been one of the places I considered although I do have work and other things which make it tougher to just leave . But I know this will always feel like home.

I'm very sorry for what happened to your daughter and I am glad you have something like this to connect to those who knew her . I never got on facebook and the political side is very ugly and I would never use it for that but after reading your post I can see using it more to keep in touch with people in our lives.

Hoping you can make it out here sometime next year .

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
83. that is my goal.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:52 PM
Dec 2020

i was thinking April, but now maybe...August?

I don't know. I am in a vulnerable population so hopefully I'll be vaccinated by August. If not, Thanksgiving 2021 is a must. I've been inside for most of the year with no immediate sign of relief.

I don't want to let trump get me.

PatSeg

(47,397 posts)
30. It is good that there is a memorial page on Facebook
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:12 AM
Dec 2020

for your daughter, as Yahoo recently discontinue all their Yahoo groups. Apparently no one was going there anymore. I am confident that Facebook will probably be around for a long time.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
33. right.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:16 AM
Dec 2020

I think I went and copied all the posts before it went away for good. Or I have them printed somewhere in a binder, because I'm weird that way!

PatSeg

(47,397 posts)
39. I am the same way
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:38 AM
Dec 2020

My son makes fun of my need and desire to have hard copies of some things, BUT I know that not everything online is forever, which is evident by the demise of Yahoo Groups. Also before we had Gmail, I used Outlook and eventually lost a lot of emails when one of my computers died. Most of them weren't all that important, but there was a lot of personal correspondence I would have liked to have saved. I did print out some of them at the time though!

LeftInTX

(25,238 posts)
50. Your daughter is lovely
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:40 PM
Dec 2020

I too have webpages and FB pages...
I used to have a family webpage on aol.
Then I got a Google page for my gardening.

I'm also a Precinct Chair.
Then I tried to make Google page when we had a special election. It was soooo much work, so I quickly made a FB page....I can make events, share events. I still have much webpage, but it is so much work to update...so I just put a few basic things on it. Webpages are not as easy as they were 10 years ago. Google is making it more difficult.

Since I see you on DU, I looked up Bekah when I saw your tag line years ago.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
52. yeah. I had a geocities page.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:43 PM
Dec 2020

so much time and effort, but it was a labor of love. some of the pages still pop in some wayback machine, but not all of them. seems like fb is as close to forever as the internet will be.

Aww...just rereading your post and saw that you already knew about Bekah.

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
8. It is so wonderful that Facebook has brought you this comfort.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:17 AM
Dec 2020

Your daughter must have been very special for all of these friends of hers to reach out to you after all of these years.

Freedomofspeech

(4,223 posts)
13. My brother was 21 when he was killed in a plane crash on his way to Vietnam...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:26 AM
Dec 2020

I was 16 and he was such a great guy. He wanted to pursue his teaching degree when he got out of the Air Force. Sending you love and peace.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
15. Love and peace to you.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:31 AM
Dec 2020

I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. For years I thought 21 was some kind of cursed year. When my youngest son turned 22 I think I breathed a sigh of relief. Of course that's silly because people die at every age, but it was almost like the 27 for rock stars. It just seemed like so many died at 21.

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
10. Thank you
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:19 AM
Dec 2020

So many of us are separated from family, and the best way to connect is on FB. I can watch the Grand children's progress as they grow. So enjoyable. Unfortunately, because of political negativity, some family is leaving it. I'm missing them so much. So, I keep up by joining the newer, cooler versions of social media. But FB is by far the easiest. Perhaps, society will calm down soon?

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
12. hope so.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:24 AM
Dec 2020

it still won't change how geographically separate we all are in my family.

I'm on instagram but hate the interface, i just don't seem to get it. And while I'm catching up to that, my kids and grandkids are into other platforms I'm just barely hearing about. Facebook has endured for quite a while.

One of my great nieces just quit fb. Hopefully I'll get to see pictures of her growing family from one of her sisters still. We did exchange numbers and emails as she announced it before she did it.

malaise

(268,913 posts)
16. What a lovely photo
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:31 AM
Dec 2020

I'm not on Facebook but I often hear about friends from my siblings and friends who are on Facebook. I can imagine the pain you still feel - losing a child is forever pain.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
20. Thank you Malaise.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:39 AM
Dec 2020

Going on 20 years. We've come a long way. But long ago I questioned why it is that people say, "not a day goes by that I don't think about..." as if that's a bad thing. Of course I think about Bekah every day, I think about all of my children and grandchildren every day. That's okay.

The pain. mmm...is not everyday. There are grief spasms. There are times when I feel as if someone is tapping me on the shoulder telling me Bekah died and I can't believe it's true. But it's not how I live anymore. It's more like a fact of my life. Bekah's dead and she shouldn't be. I can't change that, i can only do my best within that reality.

mopinko

(70,077 posts)
18. right there w you sister.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:33 AM
Dec 2020

i'm so glad i was spared your grief. i have 5 kids, all still w us. but the youngest was sick all her life, still is, and i spent a lot of time walking the halls of the children's hospital and imagining your grief. i am grateful beyond words that i do not have to carry that. so sorry you do.

i have reconnected w so many ppl from my old home town. my best friend's brother found me, and shared a story about my da that even my big sisters didnt know. and pics of the old gang.
i dont talk to many of my relatives, but the ones i do keep me in touch w what is going on.
(that irish grudge thing is real.)

i promote my small business there. it has brought me many friends and a fair amount of business.
i aint goin nowhere.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
21. thank you mopinko.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:42 AM
Dec 2020

I'm so happy for you (and her!) that your daughter has made it through. Bekah is the only one of my 4 children who I ever thought might die, when she was 7. She had a fever of unknown origin for a whole month. Until she was killed 14 years later, that experience stood in my memory as the worst time I ever had as a mother.

Rebl2

(13,490 posts)
22. I think
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:42 AM
Dec 2020

originally that was the purpose of Facebook. The ability to keep up with family and friends. Your situation demonstrates that so well. It’s sad though that in some cases it is used to hurt people and spread disinformation and outright lies.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
23. it is a damn shame
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 10:45 AM
Dec 2020

that it's used for propaganda and lies and has been a tool that has worked to accomplish the exact opposite of that purpose. My own family is torn. We just haven't said it aloud to each other, but my oldest brother and I don't talk in real life, not for years. he's a trumpist and a foxbot. we're still friends on fb though. That was his granddaughter who had the fb live gender reveal yesterday.

PatSeg

(47,397 posts)
27. Thank you for sharing your story
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:04 AM
Dec 2020

I am so sorry you lost your lovely daughter at such a young age, but it must be comforting that her memory is kept alive on Facebook with friends and family. My niece and oldest sister died and their pages are still up on Facebook. Some of us go there on birthdays or special holidays and leave a message. It has become a 21st century tradition, one that I rather like and it allows me to share memories with people who are far away.

Over the years I have found some long lost cousins and we are in regular contact now. My other sister has even gone to visit a couple of them more than once because I'd found them on Facebook. I also found old friends I'd never imagined I would hear from again. Meanwhile, a few of my favorite DU friends drifted away from DU, but we are close friends on Facebook and interact on a daily basis. We even have our own private group there.

So much of my family is scattered all over the country and Facebook has given us a place where we can share news and photos. It has become a great way to stay connected. Thank you for sharing your story.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
29. I'm so sorry for your loss.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:09 AM
Dec 2020

That's tragic. Facebook does help continue and renew connections that would otherwise be lost.
Bekah didn't have a fb page. She was technologically a Luddite. refused to have a cell phone, we had to page her lol. I'm sure by now she would have caught up.

PatSeg

(47,397 posts)
37. Oh, that brings back memories
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:32 AM
Dec 2020

I remember when pagers were the cutting edge technology and every young person just had to have one. Vcrs, caller ID, cordless phones, and answering machines were such amazing breakthroughs if you could afford them!

Yes, some move into the technological age a bit more reluctantly than others, but eventually almost everyone ends up connected some way. I embrace some technology easily, but eschew others (I don't like voice activated devices and really have no use for a smart phone). Any progress I lag behind in, my techie son compensates for and we both dragged my daughter along when she resisted. It all balances out!

XanaDUer2

(10,641 posts)
32. Sorry for the loss of your daughter
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:15 AM
Dec 2020

thanks for sharing. I'm still on fb for similar reasons. I would be even lonlier here wo fb. I get to see what relatives far away are doing, I use fb messenger to talk to and see them as we talk. My half sister found me on fb

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
60. that is the best part about it.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:40 PM
Dec 2020

I've tried to find long lost family on fb; well, I found them but they did not respond when I reached out. but I did connect with my father's half brother 50 years after my dad's death on Ancestry, we met (living in the same state) and now his wife and i are fb friends. His younger brother, my other long lost uncle, and I were fb friends for a hot minute until he called me an idiot because he's a trumpist foxbot. funnily enough, he lives in the same city on the other side of the country as my foxbot brother. I keep thinking I should put them together but haven't done it yet. they don't have a biological relationship so it doesn't seem as important.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
63. that's a big thing.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:49 PM
Dec 2020

when i hear people on DU saying get rid of fb i sometimes wonder how much political engagement is lost by doing so, particularly on the local level.

LymphocyteLover

(5,641 posts)
73. that's a good point
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 06:46 PM
Dec 2020

I suspect the people who "delete facebook" are probably light or intermittent users who never really got the full potential of the site

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
36. Those are the kinds of thing for which Facebook was created.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:31 AM
Dec 2020

It sucks that it was allowed to become a political cesspool. I try to keep it to friends and family and Internet cats. I couldn't make it to my dad's internment, so my family streamed it on Facebook for me. I was thankful for that.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
57. i've instructed my children
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:14 PM
Dec 2020

that if i become one of trump's victims and die from this virus, they should have a fb live funeral. so far i'm still alive though I have not entered a store since early March, flown since 2019, or been anywhere really. I'm heavily invested in staying alive. I'm happy for you that you were able to be there for your dad's internment.

We zoomed Christmas and Thanksgiving. I love technology. The benefits have far outweighed the risks for me.

mountain grammy

(26,618 posts)
38. This is a beautiful story about love and memories
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:32 AM
Dec 2020

Also why I won’t give up Facebook. I’ve reconnected with friends from way back and new ones too as well as following live events and some really informative and fun groups.

Thank you so much for sharing your story. FB is a wonderful tool for so many of us.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
59. thanks mountain grammy.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:28 PM
Dec 2020

think if it wasn't there, all of us grieving in solitude, me wondering whether her friends forgot all about her. it is priceless for me.

Capperdan

(492 posts)
40. Is this who I think it is?
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

Are you Barb, married to Bill? If so, I never knew about the loss of your daughter. I may be mixed up, but so sad to know about this so many years ago. I do FB sparingly. We should connect. Happy 2021 even if I have the wrong Barb

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
45. Happy 2021 Capperdan
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:34 PM
Dec 2020

Last edited Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:57 PM - Edit history (1)

I am not that Barb. Hopefully her daughter is alive and thriving.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
41. my condolences to those who have lost loved ones - but the ability to touch those who
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:08 PM
Dec 2020

also grieve especially when we had no idea of their connection.

Good news or bad news. Between texting and Facebook I am able to keep up with my sisters and their children. We are especially fond of the FB chat.

I created a secret Facebook group for my sisters, our daughters and their daughters. We post pictures, recipes etc. I share LOLcats with them every week, and other things I know they will like.

We also have a permanent 3 way texting setup - when I hear a lot of dinging from my phone I know the other two are up to something.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
49. It's literally priceless to me
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:39 PM
Dec 2020

to know how much of an impact my daughter made in her short time. like i said, it defies explanation, but it warms my heart and soothes my soul to know this.

seta1950

(932 posts)
42. That was the only reason
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:18 PM
Dec 2020

I joined fb, I have family all over the world, keeping in touch was great but I deleted my account, 5 years ago.

OldkySoul

(38 posts)
43. All very
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:19 PM
Dec 2020
understandable reasons. I too use it for mostly family and friends . It does have its issues and not perfect. I'll never get why some people try to make their problems with something yours as well.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
47. well, the problems with facebook
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:37 PM
Dec 2020

are in a sense all of ours.

on the other hand, if it wasn't fb, it would be a different platform. it is a shame however that zuckerberg is so greedy he puts no brakes on propaganda that has harmed us so very much.

NBachers

(17,099 posts)
48. Thanks, barbtries, for your support of Facebook users, often so condemned here. It really helps me
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:38 PM
Dec 2020

keep up with family and friends near and far; and connects me to my beloved home town which I left so many years ago.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
51. i'm not for hating on anyone who uses fb,
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:41 PM
Dec 2020

or chooses not to. i felt like I have a perspective that is unusual, but real and very meaningful to me.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
54. The gift that Facebook has provided to us is priceless. It's like a thorned rose.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:50 PM
Dec 2020

Yes, it is VERY problematic as well. I've considered quitting; But not for long. My children are grown and flung across the nation, and sometimes the world, in their travels. I rely upon Facebook for connections to them and others.

We have established a special family site on MeWe, because of privacy concerns about Facebook. But still, much of our day-to-day interaction is on Facebook.

How lovely that you can connect with your daughter's friends on her memorial site. I can't even fathom the pain of losing her, and anything that helps nurture you as you remember her is a wonderful thing.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
55. thank you :
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 12:58 PM
Dec 2020

i agree.

and ding! another site I never heard of (another poster goes on a place called Liker). MeWe.

I'm on Instagram, fb, tiktok, and twitter. And i'm very compartmentalized: fb and instagram primarily family and friends and youtube vloggers I love (I actually hate instagram but to keep up). Twitter for the resistance, almost exclusively political. TikTok for BLM.

and of course linkedin for work.

Chemisse

(30,808 posts)
56. MeWe is similar to Facebook but prioritizes privacy.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:03 PM
Dec 2020

Because of that, I hear it has attracted right-wing groups. I don't care; I only use it for my family site.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
58. maybe i'll check it out.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:15 PM
Dec 2020

But for now we're all on fb, except one great niece who recently deleted her account. She has 2 sisters who are still on it though, a mother, a brother, her grandma my sister...etc

chowder66

(9,067 posts)
61. I cancelled my FB many years ago but just signed up again to better connect with my nephews
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:41 PM
Dec 2020

and my brother and his wife. We talk but rarely see each other since we are all in different states.

Your story is helping to calm my nerves for rejoining.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
62. so, here's what i do.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 01:46 PM
Dec 2020

I block every right wing asshole I happen upon (except the ones I love; I just hide their posts). If I get ads from right wing sources I tell fb to hide or ask fb to opt me out of ever seeing any ads from them again. It really improves my experience on fb, because their algorithm catches that and tailors my experience accordingly.

i know it's a cesspool of propaganda and hate, full of russian bots and absurd conspiracy theories, violent white supremacists, and all that. I do not engage with that aspect.

it's extremely cool that we can video chat on fb now. That's how I see my oldest son these days. I have a different app on my phone that i prefer (Duo), but haven't convinced him to get it, so we chat on fb.

catchnrelease

(1,945 posts)
85. You can set up a private group
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 03:13 AM
Dec 2020

I few years ago I set up a private group on fb, just for the children, grandchildren and great grands of my parents. No one outside can see who is in the group or what we post. I specifically invited each one with a fb page to join, or told them and they requested to join. Because the group name is our last name, I will occasionally get a request to join from someone I don't know with the same name. I just tell them it is limited to this family and would not be relevant to them, so sorry you can't join.

I have a list of everyone's birthday, so I always schedule a 'happy birthday' post with some silly gif to go with it. So everyone gets a shout out on their day. I also post on the big holidays etc. To be honest I do most of the posts, other than a couple of the other family members once in awhile--vacation pics or graduation etc. But, I do see that most have seen the posts or given a heart or like etc. So, it keeps us in touch when we're all far apart.

On my own page I have kept it locked down as much as possible. I honestly never get any political ads and have not friended anyone that wants to fight over politics etc. Even after many years I think I have less than 60 friends, and I like it that way. I also have been lucky to join hobby/interest groups that have mods who keep a tight rein on any taboo subjects.

citizen blues

(570 posts)
65. I'm so glad you still have FB for those moments and connections
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 02:23 PM
Dec 2020

Unfortunately, I'm one of the ones FB has decided to deactivate. I used it to stay in touch with groups of friends and family. It reconnected a lot of cousins in my family. I rarely posted anything political and have no idea why this happened to me. FB does not provide a way to ask why or appeal their decision. Now, I feel completely cut off. Especially during this pandemic and through the holidays, it's hurt, and it hurts. I'm trying to move on the best I can.

The FTC already has a lawsuit going against FB. I hope the FTC wins.

FTC Sues Facebook for Illegal Monopolization

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
68. Your story is certainly heartwarming and persuasive,
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:02 PM
Dec 2020

and leaves no room for wondering if you should continue on FB. I'm very glad you have that.

Alliepoo

(2,215 posts)
71. Our beautiful Becky was close to your
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:39 PM
Dec 2020

Bekahs age. She was 19 years old in 1997 when she was killed by drunk drivers that were drag racing. One of the cars lost control and hit the car our daughter was riding in. Her friend that was driving survived the crash. We don’t have a memorial page on FB for Becky but it does allow us to stay in touch with her friends. I know just how you feel in finding some solace in knowing that our daughters live on in their friends and loved ones memories, that they are not forgotten. I’m so sorry for the loss of your beautiful, beloved Bekah.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
72. Oh Alliepoo,
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 04:56 PM
Dec 2020

I am so sorry. Bekah was crossing a street when a drunk went on the wrong side of the road, picked her up and dragged her down the street, then dumped her in the median and drove on home. Her killer was charged with murder but took a plea for much less and ultimately spent a little over 2 years in prison. she's dead now and presumably in a much different place than Bekah.

I'm also a MADD advocate and member of the MADD victims only page on fb, though not as active since trump took office. Very sad to say that our loss is duplicated over and over to this day by families all over.

Alliepoo

(2,215 posts)
76. The 2 occupants of the car that hit Becky
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 08:11 PM
Dec 2020

Both died. The 2 men in the other car that was drag racing acted as though they were just witnesses so it was too late to do a breathalyzer on the driver by the time police figured out he was involved. The trial was heard by an alternate judge bc the assigned judge got called to jury duty. The driver had previous charges as long as your arm, outstanding warrants and had been caught driving drunk even after he was involved in Becky’s death. The jury wasn’t allowed to hear any of that. He was thankfully found guilty but received only 5 years in prison for Becky’s death and 3 for the passenger in the 2nd car involved in the racing. He appealed and was released. We had to go back to court several months later. The alternate judge wasn’t permitted to hear the appeal so the original judge had to go through the transcripts of the trial and then we had to go back a third time to hear the judges decision. The appeal was denied and the guy finally had to go back to prison. We were involved with MADD for quite some time. Also The Compassionate Friends. Those two organizations pretty much saved me. Those days, weeks, months where I felt I couldn’t possibly survive-wonderful folks were there to help us through. Although we aren’t too involved anymore we still support both organizations because sadly other people will need them.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
78. it's almost a second crime
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:14 PM
Dec 2020

what victims' families have to endure going through the court system. When Bekah died, I reached out to MADD, Compassionate Friends, POMC, and went to grief counseling arranged through the DA's office for over 2 years. I was in a state for a very long time. I also wrote a book in that time. It all helped me so much just to know I wasn't insane and I wasn't alone. Nobody in my life before Bekah died had lost a child. They didn't "get" me.

The day the DA told us about her plea deal still stands as the second worst day of my life. I had to let it go for my own and my children's sake. I'm so sorry you were jerked around like that. We were fortunate in a sense, that it was all wrapped up within a matter of months, but were tortured by what we believed was a travesty of justice. We were fortunate that we knew right away who had killed Bekah. I have friends now who 20 and more years later still don't.

yonder

(9,663 posts)
75. barbtries, my heart goes out to you and everyone else
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 08:08 PM
Dec 2020

who have suffered the enduring grief with the loss of a child. We have two great, healthy kids in their 30's who are the joy of our lives. We cannot imagine the loss of either, though as any loving parent would say, the possibility is always in the back of our minds.

Though we don't use FB, your post helps me understand that for many people and for many reasons it is a literal lifeline. Thanks for helping me see that. Condolences on the loss of your daughter, Bekah.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
77. thank you yonder
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:05 PM
Dec 2020

I'm glad if telling my story helped you understand using fb. for so many, it is not about the politics (except the local politics in my case)

Mike Nelson

(9,951 posts)
79. Very sad...
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:24 PM
Dec 2020

... for you, but very happy Bekah is memorialized. When I joined, I posted a photo of a classmate killed in a car crash at 19. Then, I wondered if his sister would be hurt... we messaged... She was very happy to see him. Another classmate lost a daughter and posts about her all the time. I'm happy to get to know their daughter through the pictures and stories.

DU has a page, also
[link:https://www.facebook.com/democraticunderground|

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
80. i don't doubt at all that his sister was happy you remembered her brother.
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 09:53 PM
Dec 2020

I know I love when friends share about Bekah.

dai13sy

(334 posts)
82. Thank you
Sun Dec 27, 2020, 11:33 PM
Dec 2020

for the wonderful picture of your Daughter Bekah and her friend. I'm grateful to be reminded that wonderful things do happen on Facebook. She must have been a wonderful person for all these people to remember her with good thoughts. It hugs my heart. I hope it is a blessing to you

Raine

(30,540 posts)
86. Thank you for sharing , two such beautiful girls 💝 💖
Mon Dec 28, 2020, 05:24 AM
Dec 2020

yes very prim and proper, very ladylike.

GoneOffShore

(17,339 posts)
88. Thank you. Using Facebook has helped us get our French resident cards and driving licences
Tue Dec 29, 2020, 05:56 AM
Dec 2020

And to help owners find their lost cats and dogs.

Facebook is whatever you want it to be.

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