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babylonsister

(171,471 posts)
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:05 AM Dec 2020

Democrats Lead In Georgia Senate Races

https://politicalwire.com/2020/12/22/democrats-lead-in-georgia-senate-races/


Democrats Lead In Georgia Senate Races
December 22, 2020 at 8:14 am EST By Taegan Goddard


A new SurveyUSA poll in Goergia finds Jon Ossoff (D) leading Sen. David Perdue (R) in their U.S. Senate runoff, 51% to 46%.

In the other Senate runoff, Raphael Warnock (D) leads Sen. Kelly Loeffler (R), 52% to 45%

From the pollster: “Georgia is a hot mess and no opinion pollster could possibly say what will happen when votes are counted in 2 weeks… Any outcome is possible, including victories for the 2 Republican incumbent US Senators. But: the polling data at this hour does not support that, and heading into Christmas week, Democratic challengers Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock appear to be benefiting — at least momentarily — from a GOP cacophony.”
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Democrats Lead In Georgia Senate Races (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2020 OP
I have no trust in polling bottomofthehill Dec 2020 #1
Nor do I. Karma13612 Dec 2020 #3
"Only $600" is damn powerful meme too. It resonates really good with The Sixpack's. Tommymac Dec 2020 #17
Democrats should campaign on "elect us and get another $600 at least" LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #32
"Messaging is everything!!!!" YUP. And we are not good at it. HUAJIAO Dec 2020 #39
Yes, there never seems to be an established formula for getting an accurate pulse of the average... dubyadiprecession Dec 2020 #4
Polling is just a forecast Dopers_Greed Dec 2020 #36
The bright spot is that Georgia polling for November's election turned out to be pretty accurate Tom Rinaldo Dec 2020 #5
I expect the GOP to win both seats. BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #21
"Win" AllyCat Dec 2020 #23
Come out on top, secure the seats, ring the bell, get the W BannonsLiver Dec 2020 #24
Yup. They managed to take Senate seats I thought for sure AllyCat Dec 2020 #25
And pollsters would be the first to say... paleotn Dec 2020 #30
Nope...don't believe any polling BS and keep donating and fighting for those two seats Bengus81 Dec 2020 #40
Yeah musclecar6 Dec 2020 #2
The Trump/Kemp feud will suppress Republican turnout. yellowcanine Dec 2020 #6
worthless. All we know, who's GOTV efforts are better will win beachbumbob Dec 2020 #7
You can donate here for Dem Georgia GOTV: mucifer Dec 2020 #12
Thank you, just donated! ananda Dec 2020 #19
I listen to Al's podcast every week.. mountain grammy Dec 2020 #20
Thank you -- just listened to this one this morning. klook Dec 2020 #26
I do not trust Gov. Kemp . . . Iliyah Dec 2020 #8
I don't either, but he's not the SoS anymore. MoonRiver Dec 2020 #9
Unfortunately I don't believe it. Vote! nt helpisontheway Dec 2020 #10
We're still doing the polling thing? greenjar_01 Dec 2020 #11
Yeah Johnny2X2X Dec 2020 #13
Great news, but... GoCubsGo Dec 2020 #14
Polls face methodology problems bucolic_frolic Dec 2020 #15
Keep showing those ads of Loefflers and Perdue's mega mansions kimbutgar Dec 2020 #16
Forget Christmas! I'll take a dem win in GA any day Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #18
Within several different scenarious, having the D candidates doing this well would be an achievement BobTheSubgenius Dec 2020 #22
Please Good People of Georgia! Yeehah Dec 2020 #27
I've donated a couple times already from my recliner in Captain Zero Dec 2020 #28
Fuck polling vercetti2021 Dec 2020 #29
The polls keep swinging wildly. Last week's polling was different. Turnout is all that matters. nt Blasphemer Dec 2020 #31
I have been phone banking for Georgia yellowdogintexas Dec 2020 #33
+1000 mtnsnake Dec 2020 #35
Take nothing for granted. GOTV BlueWavePsych Dec 2020 #34
Polls??? Skeptical Thomas Dec 2020 #37
Which means we are losing and need to try harder quakerboy Dec 2020 #38
What's with all the undecided??? marble falls Dec 2020 #41
Which means the Ds have to win by a large margin to squeek out victories. Botany Dec 2020 #42

Karma13612

(4,655 posts)
3. Nor do I.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:14 AM
Dec 2020

Especially after the election we just had.

The default should just be:

Act as if we’re 5 points down. From sun up to sun down.

And I worry that this COVID relief bill just passed will help the GOP.

“Oh look! Our elected officials are watching out for us!” And Purdue/Loeffler will hammer it on the campaign trail that the “loser Libs” did everything they could to obstruct them from passing a bill to help the American public.

Never mind that the House passed a good bipartisan bill like a half a year ago.

Messaging is everything!!!!




Tommymac

(7,306 posts)
17. "Only $600" is damn powerful meme too. It resonates really good with The Sixpack's.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

Four figures is harder to put down.

But 'Only a paltry $600 from The Current Rich Senators' is exactly like those rich bastards saying

"Let Them Eat Cake."

dubyadiprecession

(6,177 posts)
4. Yes, there never seems to be an established formula for getting an accurate pulse of the average...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:18 AM
Dec 2020

Voter. It seems like pollsters are just pulling data from their ass’s most of the time!

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
36. Polling is just a forecast
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:05 PM
Dec 2020

Forecasts are by nature inexact. They just predict possible outcomes, where in reality, only one will actually happen.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,988 posts)
5. The bright spot is that Georgia polling for November's election turned out to be pretty accurate
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:23 AM
Dec 2020

I'm not sure why pollsters managed to make accurate predictions in the Presidential and Senate races for Georgia then but were often far off in other places. We can hope that the same holds true for Georgia now.

AllyCat

(16,852 posts)
25. Yup. They managed to take Senate seats I thought for sure
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:29 PM
Dec 2020

They would lose in November. Don’t trust the polls anymore but I trust the GOP even less.

paleotn

(18,900 posts)
30. And pollsters would be the first to say...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 01:00 PM
Dec 2020

they're wrong....if they're honest, anyway. The question isn't if they're wrong or not, it's how wrong are they and why. So many things can go wrong, from not guessing which segments will actually show up at the polls in large numbers to just randomness in sampling. Humans don't act with the precision and consistency of Newtonian mechanics, so some would say it's foolish to expect any reasonable amount of certainty in applying mathematics to human behavior. But some brave souls still try.

yellowcanine

(36,219 posts)
6. The Trump/Kemp feud will suppress Republican turnout.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:30 AM
Dec 2020

Hopefully that will be enough combined with a strong Dem turnout.

mucifer

(24,605 posts)
12. You can donate here for Dem Georgia GOTV:
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 11:10 AM
Dec 2020
https://unitehere.org/campaign/take-back-2020/

They have 600 people on the ground going very targeted and safely GOTV. They want to get more people door to door. As AL Franken says in this interview "door knock for Wornock" of course Ossoff, too.



There are many other groups going door to door for Wornock and Ossoff. So fingers crossed.

mountain grammy

(27,093 posts)
20. I listen to Al's podcast every week..
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:08 PM
Dec 2020

and think about who we lost. Every Democrat should too.
Also donated, as I do to most of his causes.

klook

(12,767 posts)
26. Thank you -- just listened to this one this morning.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:30 PM
Dec 2020

Yes, it’s “Door knock for Warnock.” And “Vote your Ossoff!”

Thanks for the link. I’m donating to these guys today! Great organization and a great discussion with Al Franken.

As a member of a high-risk household, I’m not up for door-to-door canvassing, but I’m happy to support Unite Here.

MoonRiver

(36,928 posts)
9. I don't either, but he's not the SoS anymore.
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:41 AM
Dec 2020

The current SoS, even though a Repuke, seems to be honest.

Johnny2X2X

(21,296 posts)
13. Yeah
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 11:13 AM
Dec 2020

Polls still have some validity, but are taken with a big grain of salt. Georgia polls were pretty accurate though, including this one.

I think not having Trump on the ballot is the X Factor. We'll see how that plays out, but right now it's looking like we've got a 50% chance at winning each race.

bucolic_frolic

(46,198 posts)
15. Polls face methodology problems
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

MAGAts won't answer their phones and don't trust pollsters whom they think are part of the Deepest State. So perhaps they are undercounted and aren't truthful. Ya think?

So the only hope here is they are unmotivated. It's hard to believe they are not hearing about it on TV or from the MAGAt echo chamber.

So I'd say flip those polls by 6% to get a more accurate guesstimate.

kimbutgar

(22,778 posts)
16. Keep showing those ads of Loefflers and Perdue's mega mansions
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 11:41 AM
Dec 2020

And ask can they represent your interests in Georgia ?

And they only voted to give you $600 and tax breaks for three martini business lunches.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,738 posts)
22. Within several different scenarious, having the D candidates doing this well would be an achievement
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:22 PM
Dec 2020

It still is an achievement - don't get me wrong. But in other years, such a strong showing could be cause enough for congratulations, and "get 'em next time" might be a fitting denouement.

But with the Senate hanging in the balance, well...

Captain Zero

(7,351 posts)
28. I've donated a couple times already from my recliner in
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:56 PM
Dec 2020
Indianapolis. It's easy. Go to ActBlue.com , give Republicans New Years Hell from your recliner.

yellowdogintexas

(22,645 posts)
33. I have been phone banking for Georgia
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 07:05 PM
Dec 2020

and if the people I am talking to are an indication of the vote, we really can pull this off.

My husband is much more pessimistic based on 538 but he isn't talking to these folks .

These voters are revved up! They want to talk about it. They are really stoked about the win in November and the fact that history will turn on a dime based on what they do.

You can find volunteer opportunites at the Warnock and Ossoff websites.

Or you can donate through the ActBlue fundraiser right here on DU

quakerboy

(14,078 posts)
38. Which means we are losing and need to try harder
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 04:27 AM
Dec 2020

As the Trump nutters keep telling us.. theres a lot of electronic voting machines in Georgia.

Botany

(72,047 posts)
42. Which means the Ds have to win by a large margin to squeek out victories.
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 10:52 AM
Dec 2020

Both Fox and CNBC* were pushing that both Loeffler and Perdue were leading in the polls today.


* I saw both reports when channel surfing.

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