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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,741 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:05 PM Dec 2020

US Navy sails nuclear submarine through Strait of Hormuz

The US Navy nuclear-powered guided-missile submarine USS Georgia transited the Strait of Hormuz Monday accompanied by two additional American warships, the Navy said Monday in a rare public announcement of a nuclear submarine's movements.

"The nuclear-power Ohio-class guided-missile submarine USS Georgia (SSGN 729), along with the guided-missile cruisers USS Port Royal (CG 73) and USS Philippine Sea (CG 58), transited the Strait of Hormuz entering the Arabian Gulf, Dec. 21," the Navy said in a statement using an alternative name for the Persian Gulf.

The vessels' entrance into the area comes amid heightened tensions with Iran, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo blaming Iranian backed militias for a rocket attack on the US Embassy compound in Baghdad, on Sunday.

Some US officials have expressed concern that Iran may use the anniversary of the killing of General Qasem Solemani to carry out a strike on the US.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-navy-sails-nuclear-submarine-through-strait-of-hormuz/ar-BB1c73Nk?li=BBnb7Kz#image=1

Or Donny is trying to carry out "Operation Looky Over There."

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US Navy sails nuclear submarine through Strait of Hormuz (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2020 OP
I never understand the description "nuclear" before submarine. NutmegYankee Dec 2020 #1
But they didn't all used to drmeow Dec 2020 #6
USS Georgia was converted atreides1 Dec 2020 #11
There are a pile of Diesel-Electric ones in dozens of countries. TheBlackAdder Dec 2020 #22
This asshole is going to attack Iran, and leave that steaming mess for Biden. denbot Dec 2020 #2
No way I can scoff at that Dennis Donovan Dec 2020 #3
If they were going to attack using subs, they would stay out of the Persian Gulf.. EX500rider Dec 2020 #5
Too shallow exactly.. denbot Dec 2020 #12
Harpoons? soryang Dec 2020 #18
Destroyers and subs carry tomahawks. denbot Dec 2020 #20
ty denbot nt soryang Dec 2020 #21
Why would such a valuable naval asset be put at the risk of going inside PufPuf23 Dec 2020 #4
US 5th Fleet is based out of Bahrain...most likely just a port of call. nt EX500rider Dec 2020 #7
Thanks. That is explanatory. PufPuf23 Dec 2020 #8
Bahrain is a shit liberty call.. denbot Dec 2020 #13
Bet it's better than Bandar Abbas, Iran Cirque du So-What Dec 2020 #16
The Barney was one of the last US Navy combatants to port there.. denbot Dec 2020 #17
Vung Tau was a happening little ville, but that was a couple of wars ago. 11 Bravo Dec 2020 #25
Yup. old guy Dec 2020 #10
Thanks, Putin. Kid Berwyn Dec 2020 #9
Getting his new hiding place ready? Brainfodder Dec 2020 #14
Doesn't IRAN have control to completely shut down traffic thru the Strait of Hormuz? Budi Dec 2020 #15
I think they know better, China warned them it would be a bad idea.... EX500rider Dec 2020 #24
154 cruise missiles, thats a big boat Baclava Dec 2020 #19
Converted Ohio-class ballistic missile boat sir pball Dec 2020 #23
Seems like a poor place for a submarine... Klaralven Dec 2020 #26

atreides1

(16,066 posts)
11. USS Georgia was converted
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:23 PM
Dec 2020

...into an SSGN capable of conducting conventional land attack and special operations. The USS Georgia carries 154 Tomahawk cruise missiles and 66 special operations personnel, among other capabilities and upgrades.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
2. This asshole is going to attack Iran, and leave that steaming mess for Biden.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:13 PM
Dec 2020

Once more American Service personnel will die for a Republican President’s vanity..

EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
5. If they were going to attack using subs, they would stay out of the Persian Gulf..
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:16 PM
Dec 2020

....too shallow.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
12. Too shallow exactly..
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:25 PM
Dec 2020

There is absolutely no need strategic need for an attack sub, or any sub for that matter to enter the Gulf.

The missiles it carries have stand off ranges far beyond what could be reached in Iran from the relative safety of the Indian Ocean, or the Mediterranean Sea. If he gets sailors killed, he likely assumes it will make disengagement more difficult without proper “revenge”.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
20. Destroyers and subs carry tomahawks.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:05 PM
Dec 2020

They have a minimum est. 1,500 mile range, another words, a sub a mile off Chicago could easily hit the bowl of any particular fountain on Miami’s Ocean Drive without challenging it’s capabilities.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
4. Why would such a valuable naval asset be put at the risk of going inside
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:16 PM
Dec 2020

the Strait of Hormuz?

Could not any function except intimidation / for show be completed without taking the risk of being cornered or otherwise an attempt of containment?

Looks to me an unnecessary act of provocation.

PufPuf23

(8,755 posts)
8. Thanks. That is explanatory.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:20 PM
Dec 2020

Forgot about Bahrain, not a militay person and have gotten out of the habit of watching interational military movements.

denbot

(9,898 posts)
17. The Barney was one of the last US Navy combatants to port there..
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:48 PM
Dec 2020

I recoiled at the thought of the “Prison” tour..


 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
15. Doesn't IRAN have control to completely shut down traffic thru the Strait of Hormuz?
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 04:29 PM
Dec 2020

Thus shutting major shipping path to ME Oil.

ME oil nations have built their own pipelins re-routing some flow of oil away from the Strait, but it is minimul.

ME oil shipping is fked if Iran chose to close off the Strait & be certain that war would ensue.

If Iran ever makes good on its past threats to close the Strait, I believe it is wartime.
The Strait of Hormuz has always been used as both a threat & a wedge


Basically what's at stake in the Strait.
From 2019:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.euronews.com/amp/2019/06/28/strait-of-hormuz-why-does-iran-threaten-to-close-it

EX500rider

(10,809 posts)
24. I think they know better, China warned them it would be a bad idea....
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:40 PM
Dec 2020

...a lot of China's oil passes thru there.

sir pball

(4,737 posts)
23. Converted Ohio-class ballistic missile boat
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 05:40 PM
Dec 2020

Back when naval gunnery was having it's last gasps after WWII there were plans to convert/build new battleships as "missile carriers", but they were just too big and easy targets. 60 years later we finally got the idea to work, and it's not a bad one IMO

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