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still_one

(91,965 posts)
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:20 AM Dec 2020

Dr. Jay Bhattachary from Stanford is advocating end the lockdowns, and just give

the vaccine to only the older population, and those at higher risk, making the argument only for those who are not elderly and without at higher risk.

They believe the lock down is much worse than Covid in this population, and believe herd immunity would be achieved with only vaccinating this older population, letting the younger population live their lives "normally"

https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Stanford-prof-s-anti-lockdown-movement-faces-15644375.php

A number of scientists pointed out the declaration ignores increasing evidence of younger people suffering long term effects of covid, "long haulers"

It should also be pointed out that his specialty is clinical outcomes as it relates to economics

https://profiles.stanford.edu/jay-bhattacharya

He is a bean counter





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still_one

(91,965 posts)
5. We have vaccines on the horizon, and they are still people advocating this herd
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:31 AM
Dec 2020

immunity "experiment" with people's lives

It should be noted that this physician specialty puts emphasis on economic outcomes.

It looks to me like he is a bean counter, and his primary concern is economics

https://profiles.stanford.edu/jay-bhattacharya


Glorfindel

(9,706 posts)
2. Well, alrighty then..."thin the herd," as it were.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:24 AM
Dec 2020

As an elderly person myself, I say, "Hooray! Immunize me and let the youngsters (those less than 70 years old) fend for themselves."

Obviously:

bbernardini

(9,934 posts)
3. He's one of the co-authors of the "Great Barrington Declaration"...
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:27 AM
Dec 2020

...drafted by the American Institute for Economic Research.

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
6. economics is full of really stupid people
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:34 AM
Dec 2020

who act like they are smart.

Like the Trumpest asshole Ali Velshi would have on his program routinely. That guy (can't remember his name) was a complete moron.

still_one

(91,965 posts)
8. This was on CNN's Smerconish this morning. What makes this even more disturbing
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:39 AM
Dec 2020

is pushing this potential harm for thousands, while a vaccine is on the horizon that will solve the problem next year


still_one

(91,965 posts)
7. yup. He was on Smerconish this morning pushing this. Interestingly they did not
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:35 AM
Dec 2020

identify the "economic" focus on clinical outcomes that is in his profile

https://profiles.stanford.edu/jay-bhattacharya

lapfog_1

(29,166 posts)
4. you first Mr. Bhattachary
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:31 AM
Dec 2020

if you have a family then we will give the vaccine to all family members over 65 and the rest of you get a massive dose of the virus.

8 weeks later we will check on the result of the experiment.

Then you can have an opinion.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
10. I made the mistake of listening to him for a couple of minutes . ..
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:46 AM
Dec 2020

and had to turn, shaking my head. The doctor is also from Stanford Univ. I believe, same as Dr. Atlas. I don't know what they are smoking but I sure don't want any of it.

still_one

(91,965 posts)
14. He doesn't represent the majority of doctors there, or elsewhere, and if you look at his
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 11:36 AM
Dec 2020

credentials his profile is on clinical outcomes as it relates to economics

People like this do tarnish the universities they come from

It seems that perhaps that medical institutions need to be offering more courses in ethics



hatrack

(59,442 posts)
11. I'm beginning to picture Stanford as a gilded anus . . .
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 10:47 AM
Dec 2020

. . . crapping out one toxic dropping after another, each one advocating for more death, suffering and lies.

This clown.

Scott Atlas.

The administrators who decided to give the vaccine to administrators first at the medical center, NOT doctors and nurses.

Oh, yeah, and Elizabeth Holmes, reaching back a bit further in time.

still_one

(91,965 posts)
13. You can add Shockley to that list also. In all fairness most of the physicians at Stanford do not
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 11:30 AM
Dec 2020

endorse this approach, along with most in the medical community

No surprise that he is pushing this in the WSJ, and on fox

That he decides to push this now with what is happening here in California is outrageous, and highlights that more course work in ethics need to be taught


LizBeth

(9,946 posts)
16. Neither of my ery healthy 20 somethings want to be unhealthy in any way for the rest of their life.
Sat Dec 19, 2020, 02:04 PM
Dec 2020

and they work hard with eating healthy, exercising for health and making healthy choices every single day.

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