Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:50 PM
tulipsandroses (2,865 posts)
Basketball star Keyontae Johnson collapses during game - He was positive for Covid over the summer
He has been admitted to the ICU. No word yet whether this is related to Covid or not
[link:| Florida standout forward Keyontae Johnson, the Southeastern Conference's preseason player of the year, collapsed coming out of a timeout against rival Florida State and needed emergency medical attention. Johnson was taken off the floor on a stretcher and rushed to Tallahassee Memorial for evaluation. The Gators said he was in critical but stable condition at the hospital. Johnson had just dunked in transition before he fell to the floor as the team broke its huddle. Several Gators were in tears and a couple buried their faces in towels as coach Mike White gathered his team to say a prayer. SNIP---- Like most of his teammates, Johnson tested positive for COVID-19 during the summer. Although the cause of Johnson's ailment was not immediately known, the coronavirus can lead to myocarditis, a viral infection of the heart muscle. At its most severe, myocarditis can lead to sudden cardiac arrest and has been a documented cause of death for young, otherwise healthy athletes. [link:https://www.cbsnews.com/news/keyontae-johnson-collapse-florida/|
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tulipsandroses | Dec 12 | OP |
Demsrule86 | Dec 12 | #1 | |
CanonRay | Dec 12 | #2 | |
Mariana | Dec 12 | #26 | |
elias7 | Dec 12 | #3 | |
mpcamb | Dec 12 | #4 | |
ProfessorGAC | Dec 12 | #6 | |
Laffy Kat | Dec 12 | #7 | |
LisaL | Dec 12 | #15 | |
mpcamb | Dec 12 | #23 | |
uponit7771 | Dec 13 | #30 | |
Laffy Kat | Dec 12 | #5 | |
ProfessorGAC | Dec 12 | #8 | |
Laffy Kat | Dec 12 | #9 | |
ProfessorGAC | Dec 12 | #11 | |
Laffy Kat | Dec 12 | #13 | |
ProfessorGAC | Dec 12 | #22 | |
Laffy Kat | Dec 12 | #25 | |
Rice4VP | Dec 12 | #10 | |
malaise | Dec 12 | #12 | |
Laffy Kat | Dec 12 | #14 | |
AwakeAtLast | Dec 13 | #27 | |
malaise | Dec 13 | #28 | |
roamer65 | Dec 12 | #16 | |
LisaL | Dec 12 | #17 | |
roamer65 | Dec 12 | #18 | |
uponit7771 | Dec 13 | #31 | |
jalan48 | Dec 12 | #19 | |
JCMach1 | Dec 12 | #20 | |
JI7 | Dec 12 | #21 | |
MustLoveBeagles | Dec 12 | #24 | |
cwydro | Dec 13 | #29 | |
LisaL | Dec 13 | #32 | |
tulipsandroses | Dec 13 | #33 | |
rockfordfile | Dec 13 | #34 | |
cwydro | Dec 13 | #35 |
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 04:50 PM
Demsrule86 (52,202 posts)
1. Covid can damage organ like the heart.
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:00 PM
CanonRay (11,609 posts)
2. The team should suspend play until every member
has a thorough medical check; heart, lungs, vascular system, brain. And the damn school should foot the bill.
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Response to CanonRay (Reply #2)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:55 PM
Mariana (12,463 posts)
26. Right. From the story:
The game continued a few minutes later... |
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:04 PM
elias7 (2,613 posts)
3. Covid associated cardiomyopathy- could as substrate for fatal arrhythmia
Unless he had underlying congenital cardiomyopathy, that would be most likely cause
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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:06 PM
mpcamb (2,406 posts)
4. He didn't even get his hands out to break the fall. ?cardiac ?maybe Marfan's Syndrome.
Response to mpcamb (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:32 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,962 posts)
6. I Hope Not Marfan's
Usually when that manifests itself, the person is near death. Survivability is low!
I played ball against a guy in HS. He was 6'9", 235 in his junior year and had a man's mesomorphic body (not a kid's) at 16. Had NBA written all over him. Athletic, skilled, great fundamentals, and very basketball smart. Good student, too! Was being recruited by UNC, UCLA & Georgetown, and many others. He dropped dead in the locker room a third of the way through his senior year. Marfan's. Couldn't detect it ahead of time in those days. |
Response to mpcamb (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:32 PM
Laffy Kat (13,544 posts)
7. That was my first guess, too. nt
Response to mpcamb (Reply #4)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:07 PM
LisaL (39,784 posts)
15. I don't see the features of Marfan's Syndrome.
He is tall but very muscular-and people with Marfan's are supposed to be tall and thin.
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Response to LisaL (Reply #15)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:47 PM
mpcamb (2,406 posts)
23. Program roster has him at 6'5", 230#. That seems less a likely profile for Marfan's. Still, coaches
push weights and body arrangements to suit their needs.
I think an unidentified heart anomaly is more likely. He was unconscious when he fell. |
Response to mpcamb (Reply #4)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:41 PM
uponit7771 (74,748 posts)
30. Isn't Marfans Genetic and detectable? tia
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:31 PM
Laffy Kat (13,544 posts)
5. This is speculation but could be Marfan's syndrome.
A lot of basketball players are born with Marfan's, thus their height. It can cause all kinds of vascular and cardiac problems. It's always the first thing I think of when I hear of a sudden death or near-death with bb players.
https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2015/03/02/13/03/recognizing-marfan-syndrome-in-athletes#:~:text=Isaiah%20Austin%2C%20a%20star%20basketball,NBA%20draft%20(Figure%201). |
Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #5)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:33 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,962 posts)
8. See Post 6
My close up experience with a Marfan's victims.
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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #8)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:43 PM
Laffy Kat (13,544 posts)
9. These days seems like Marfan's patients would be identified early..
And watched throughout their lives. They can screen for cardiac abnormalities and aneurysms. It's so sad when these things happen.
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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #9)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:51 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,962 posts)
11. Imaging & Genetic Tests Exist
But, back in late 1973, the way they detected the vast majority of Marfan's was during the autopsy.
Much too late for that promising player I knew. |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #11)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:59 PM
Laffy Kat (13,544 posts)
13. But aren't there also obvious physical characteristics?
Acromegaly for one? Sunken chest? I'm pretty sure I can identify a Marfan's patient when they check-in to the clinic. Of course, I'm sure there are variations and there's probably a spectrum. It's just so heartbreaking when they discover it at autopsy. These stories really get to me.
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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #13)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:38 PM
ProfessorGAC (46,962 posts)
22. Not The Guy I Knew
Nor with Flo Hyman, the great volleyball player.
She died of Marfan's, too. |
Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #22)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 09:36 PM
Laffy Kat (13,544 posts)
25. Damn. So tragic. nt
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:44 PM
Rice4VP (1,206 posts)
10. Poor kid....I hope that he gets through this
This is the DU member formerly known as Rice4VP.
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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 05:55 PM
malaise (225,576 posts)
12. When do we put people before profit?
I love sports but this is madness
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Response to malaise (Reply #12)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:13 PM
AwakeAtLast (13,497 posts)
27. And college students see none of it. n/t
Response to AwakeAtLast (Reply #27)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:15 PM
malaise (225,576 posts)
28. Precisely
What a species
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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:09 PM
roamer65 (25,505 posts)
16. The virus may have put his heart right on the edge.
Sadly, we will see a lot of this over the coming years.
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Response to roamer65 (Reply #16)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:10 PM
LisaL (39,784 posts)
17. Covid can cause inflammation of heart muscle.
NT
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Response to LisaL (Reply #17)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:15 PM
roamer65 (25,505 posts)
18. Yup.
I am hearing constant stories in my dad’s home rural area of MI of infections now. Heard one is on a ventilator just today.
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Response to LisaL (Reply #17)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:43 PM
uponit7771 (74,748 posts)
31. +1, I read that earlier this year. Jus ... damn
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:17 PM
jalan48 (11,517 posts)
19. This is really sad. I feel for his family as well.
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:25 PM
JCMach1 (25,952 posts)
20. Post Covid my resting heart rate is 120-160 without taking a beta blocker
Covid is a beast. I feel very bad for the young man.
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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:32 PM
JI7 (83,383 posts)
21. Does anyone know if he was asymptomatic when he had covid ?
Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sat Dec 12, 2020, 06:48 PM
MustLoveBeagles (6,654 posts)
24. Poor guy
He didn't even have time to put his arms out to break his fall.
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Response to tulipsandroses (Original post)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:22 PM
cwydro (42,194 posts)
29. Weird how his teammates ran away from him.
Seems like human nature to run TO someone in trouble.
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Response to cwydro (Reply #29)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 01:45 PM
LisaL (39,784 posts)
32. They didn't run away. They made room for two people seen
running toward the collapsed player (medical personnel I am assuming).
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Response to cwydro (Reply #29)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:01 PM
tulipsandroses (2,865 posts)
33. My guess is they may have been told to not touch anyone that has a medical emergency
There might be several reasons they may have been given such a warning.
Protect themselves, in case the person has Covid Protect the person in need, have professional help deal with the situation More likely this --- Protect the school from lawsuit - Good Samaritan lawsuits. Protection Varies Good Samaritan laws exist in both the U.S. and Canada, but the legislation isn’t uniform. Most laws don’t apply to medical professionals when they are on the job, but do offer some protection when they respond to an emergency off the clock. Many Good Samaritan laws, such as those in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Delaware, cover anyone who attempts to help in an emergency, while others are specific to certain situations. For example, Alabama’s law only extends to trained rescuers and public education employees unless the emergency is cardiac arrest, at which point anyone can get involved. In Oklahoma, Good Samaritan protection only covers bystander emergency assistance related to CPR or controlling bleeding. For example, a bystander in California who witnessed a car accident and pulled the victim from the vehicle out of concern that it would catch fire was later sued by the victim, who was left permanently paralyzed. The bystander won the lawsuit but the decision was later reversed by an appeals court that ruled she didn’t provide medical assistance. California has since changed its Good Samaritan law to include providing non-medical assistance at the scene of an emergency. [link:https://www.lhsfna.org/index.cfm/lifelines/january-2019/good-samaritan-laws-what-exactly-do-they-protect/| |
Response to cwydro (Reply #29)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:04 PM
rockfordfile (6,428 posts)
34. they're kids
Response to rockfordfile (Reply #34)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 02:14 PM
cwydro (42,194 posts)
35. I was a college athlete.
Teammate was beaned by a line drive. We were at her side in seconds.
Of course we moved when the trainer etc. arrived, but that was our natural instinct. ![]() This is the DU member formerly known as cwydro.
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