Fri Dec 11, 2020, 02:27 PM

Farmgirl1961 (1,463 posts)

Do you think the founders of TLP will try to forge a party?

Now mind you, I'm the furthest thing from the ideological principles of the Republican Party, that is when they supposedly had principles. But in the current Republican party is the Trumplican party of thuggery, I'm wondering whether the founders of TLP will actually try to form a new Republican Party to try to combat the ideological zealotry? At the moment, we only have one functioning party and the Democratic Party has been opening up its umbrella larger and larger to try to accommodate those that have left...but it can't be the all encompassing party as it will lose its one ideological principles.

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Do you think the founders of TLP will try to forge a party? (Original post)	Farmgirl1961	Dec 2020	OP
Probably don't have a choice	zipplewrath	Dec 2020	#1
Well, they won't become Democrats because we're the liberal party	Hortensis	Dec 2020	#5
Well, I sure hope so. IF:	Mister Ed	Dec 2020	#2
No, they are occupying a different role	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2020	#3
Please translate TLP.	Sinistrous	Dec 2020	#4
I think it's The Lincoln Project. nt	R B Garr	Dec 2020	#7
The Lincoln Project	brooklynite	Dec 2020	#8
I think they are going to ratfuck the Trumpists.	roamer65	Dec 2020	#6
They aspire to rebuilding the existing Republican Party...	brooklynite	Dec 2020	#9
Hmmm. Guessing the GA senate races may have them wondering also.	Hortensis	Dec 2020	#10
They will join Romney and the Bush branch of the party	Yeehah	Dec 2020	#11

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 02:34 PM

zipplewrath (16,615 posts)

1. Probably don't have a choice

The GOP probably won't want them "back". So they either become democrats, try to work as an "independent" party endorsing candidates of any stripe, or try to create a conservative party to replace the party of Trump.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:19 PM

Hortensis (56,759 posts)

5. Well, they won't become Democrats because we're the liberal party

and they're not liberals.

They believe, rightly, and have said that America's conservatives need an honorable and productive party that represents their conservative values. They also know that's critically important ALL Americans because otherwise our democracy cannot survive. So, one way or another, they will work toward that goal.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 02:36 PM

Mister Ed (5,340 posts)

2. Well, I sure hope so. IF:

If it's a party that wants to advance its conservative policy goals while eschewing corruption, working within the framework of the Constitution, and respecting the Rule of Law, then I will welcome them even as I spar with them over policy.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 02:51 PM

bucolic_frolic (37,119 posts)

3. No, they are occupying a different role

They are more like our Founders, or referees at this point. Their old Republican Party principles were so unpopular that Democrats went left, and Republicans went far right. But they are teaching Democrats how to play hardball, and we'd best pay attention, and they will duke it out with the far right. How they win I have no idea.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 03:57 PM

Sinistrous (4,249 posts)

4. Please translate TLP.

Thank you.

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Response to Sinistrous (Reply #4)

Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:28 PM

R B Garr (16,648 posts)

7. I think it's The Lincoln Project. nt

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:29 PM

brooklynite (86,895 posts)

8. The Lincoln Project

But I agree with your point.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:25 PM

roamer65 (34,970 posts)

6. I think they are going to ratfuck the Trumpists.

...and enjoy doing it.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:30 PM

brooklynite (86,895 posts)

9. They aspire to rebuilding the existing Republican Party...

...the question is whether that will be doable.

They're also smart enough to know it requires more than an Independent Presidential candidate.

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Fri Dec 11, 2020, 04:30 PM

Hortensis (56,759 posts)

10. Hmmm. Guessing the GA senate races may have them wondering also.

Their permanently irreconcilable differences with the traitors in the GOP's "organized conspiracy for the purposes of maintaining power for self-interest, and the self-interest of its donor class" means war to destroy their seditious extremist cabal, whichever form it takes.

The Republican Party has an organization and a proud (to them) history to reform themselves around, and it'd seem there'd be enormous benefits to taking it over, if possible.

McConnell has just been elected for six more years, though, if he lives that long. I'm guessing it could matter a great deal to their strategy if McConnell served those years as senate majority leader or a mostly de-powered minority leader until ousted by a hostile patriots faction from that position also. Like in 2022.