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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWouldn't a non-specific Trump self-pardon, upheld by SCOTUS,
have the effect of crowning Joe Biden king ? It puts him above the law, plain and simple.
In fact, as an example, couldn't JB round up every member of the Trump gang and throw them in Guantanamo with the lame excuse "some people were saying" they took military secrets with them and would otherwise sell them to our enemies. Doesn't have to be true because JB would be outside the justice system. Trump caged innocent children who posed far less of a threat to our national security.
Is Trump really thinking through his abuse of the pardon power of POTUS, it could bite him on the ass?
Same deal with Trump resigning, "POTUS for a day' Pence granting him a non-specific pardon. If that's allowed to stand and Pence and then Harris are complicit, JB is effectively a king.
We really gotta tighten up some of the mechanics of our constitution.We're heading for a cliff and I believe even Trump will apply the brakes but then again I thought HRC would be elected.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)intrepidity
(7,272 posts)It has to do with the character of Dems.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)not sure Trump will risk himself , betting on the Dem's tendency to do the right thing. He tends to project his flaws on others. The Pence gambit hinges on Pence's willingness to throw away his future, such as he perceives it, which is why I question that hypothetical.
Pantagruel
(2,580 posts)execution, just detention. I find it hard to believe any SCOTUS is going to allow a non-specific Trump self-pardon. But been surprised before.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,544 posts)If self pardons were allowed, what would stop a president from assassinating all the Trump appointed justices?
If self pardons were legal, not only would a president become a King, he would become an invulnerable Terminator, capable of killing or ordering killings of who ever he pleases, with impeachment his only potential consequence.
intrepidity
(7,272 posts)One argument is that impeachment is supposed to stop, or punish, those actions.
Of course, founders never anticipated a thoroughly corrupt POTUS *and* Senate.
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intrepidity
(7,272 posts)I mean, why stop there?