"No, Romney didn't make any major fuck-ups, aside from"

[ProSense]

WTF is with all the doom & gloom here?

by Brainwrap

I watched the whole thing. Yes, Romney did pretty well, aside from fighting with Lehrer for half the night. Yes, Lehrer was essentially useless. No, Romney didn't make any major fuck-ups, aside from:

--publicly accusing his own kids of being serial liars
--publicly stating that he's gonna kill Big Bird
--patronizingly telling people over 60 years old that they should just turn the TV off and not worry their pretty little heads about their kids/grandkids' health

OK, none of those are major flubs; if you aren't aware of how many flat-out lies he told, you'd probably come away thinking that he's a reasonable, capable guy.

However, the POTUS didn't fuck up either. Yes, he was too passive, didn't take any easy shots, and his facial expressions were a bit off (nodding/frowning), but he did quite well overall IMHO.

Basically, Obama should have wiped the map with Romney and didn't...but so what? Romney is the one who needed to wipe the map with Obama.

It's gonna take a lot more than one half-decent performance without tripping over his shoes for him to beat the Prez.

As for other items:

--First time in history that a sitting President of the United States has publicly uttered the phrase "The insurance companies can't jerk you around". As dull as the debate was, it was worth it for that alone.

--As useless as Lehrer was, I actually liked the open-ended discussion that resulted. To both of their credit, Romney and Obama actually let each other talk without interrupting, which is refreshing. I hate the "solve the world's problems, you have 60 seconds" approach. The open-ended format worked to both of their advantages, since neither one is known for giving short answers.

--For a debate that was supposed to be entirely about domestic issues, they never touched ANY social issues, which sucks. Nothing about reproductive rights, LGBT issues, etc, which is a shame since all of those the POTUS clearly has the tailwind on.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/10/03/1139526/-WTF-is-with-all-the-doom-gloom-here

Are people really that conditioned to accepting aggression mixed with bullshit as good?

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[BellaKos]

1. I agree.

This isn't a sporting event.
It is disgusting to see the punditry talking about the debate as if it were a game, INSTEAD of lamenting the fact that the Repukes have nominated a serial liar as their candidate for President.
This country is in serious trouble.

I'm gonna' spend the rest of the evening watching "Apollo 13," my favorite movie.

[Tx4obama]

2. Mitt Romney’s Five Biggest Lies of the First Half of the Presidential Debate

Mitt Romney’s Five Biggest Lies of the First Half of the Presidential Debate
FULL ARTICLE here: http://www.politicususa.com/mitt-romneys-biggest-lies-presidential-debate.html

[Evergreen Emerald]

3. Loud, sputtering, fast talking, aggressive.

Versus reserved, pointed, and honest.

My dad used to win arguments by shouting over everyone and not letting anyone complete a sentence. That may work around the Thanksgiving table, but I expect more from a presidential candidate.

I hope people watch the reruns. See how Obama got under romney's skin. Watch his volume and speed. And he just lied and lied.

I think the idea that loud and lying is a winning strategy, does not give the American people very much credit.

[ProSense]

4. Thank you. n/t