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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:09 PM

When Out of Power, GOP Swings to Neo Deficit Hawks


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Reply When Out of Power, GOP Swings to Neo Deficit Hawks (Original post)
sagesnow Nov 2020 OP
jimfields33 Nov 2020 #1
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Martin Eden Nov 2020 #3
Volaris Nov 2020 #4
gratuitous Nov 2020 #5
CrispyQ Nov 2020 #6

Response to sagesnow (Original post)

Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:53 PM

1. Honestly, I keep hearing dread about the debt being more then

Annual gdp or whatever. Supermajority of Americans have debt more then their annual salary. We deal and so will the government. The debt will never be paid back and I canít imagine a single person believing so.

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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 03:56 PM

2. Nothing new there.

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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 05:28 PM

3. Republicans WANT deficits. Republicans NEED deficits.

Their long term goal has been to "shrink government" to a size that can be "drowned in a bathtub."

They can't dismantle popular programs like Social Security and Medicare by direct assault, so they claim the mantle of "fiscal conservatism" by sounding the alarm over budget deficits and calling for "entitlement" reform. After they jacked up the deficits themselves with huge tax cuts for the rich and wars of choice like Iraq which cost $trillions while subsidizing the military industrial complex.

The biggest "entitlements" are actually earned benefits working Americans paid for with deductions from our paychecks to ensure healthcare and a modest pension after a lifetime of essential work. This is where framing and code words come into play. "Entitlement" sounds more like something that is not "earned."

Even though Republicans have been quite successful with their framing and narrative, real cuts to Social Security and Medicare are a hard sell. Hence, their long term strategy to "Starve the Beast" of funds to convince the public these programs are unaffordable and tough choices (entitlement reform) have to be made.

And the only way to do that is with Huge. Budget. Deficits.

In the richest country in the world, the wealth generated by the work of everyone in the economy is increasingly concentrated in fewer hands at the top -- those who fund the political careers of the politicians who serve at their pleasure.

Republicans WANT deficits. Republicans NEED deficits.

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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 05:33 PM

4. Lol. Our response should just be:

Dick Cheney said deficits dont matter anymore. And since they dont, if the republican senate really really wants to care about this issue, they can wait till they have control of the White House again.

And UNTIL THEN, we will damn well spend what we NEED TO, to save this nation's fascists from their own stupidity.

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Sun Nov 29, 2020, 05:55 PM

5. They want to curb the nation's debt? Raise taxes on the wealthy

That's what blew these gaping holes in the federal budget in the first place: Letting the wealthy off the hook for paying for the system that made them wealthy. Want reform some entitlement programs? How about rolling back the tax breaks for large petroleum companies and agricultural subsidies for large corporate farms? We could also re-purpose some of the $2 billion we spend every day on the military.

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Mon Nov 30, 2020, 11:13 AM

6. A Luckovich classic.

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