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vaberella

(24,634 posts)
Wed Oct 3, 2012, 11:00 PM Oct 2012

This is the future of our nation-not a TV show: Pundits are not the General Public.

This is forgotten every time there is a debate. I figured this out during 2008 and I see it playing itself out here.

We are by and large pundit like people. We live and breathe politics on this site. When we watch the debate---for us it's watching a show. We want to see who can one up each other.

The normal every day worker ---particularly union worker who gives a flying fig about politics overall but how they feel in the economy and if they have a job or are looking for a job and the basic needs of their kids. Those average people are not looking at the debate we do.


I think we need to step out of ourselves and think of ourselves as the majority of Americans---fairly uninterested in politics. If you do look at that when they saw Romney. They saw a very erratic and weird behaviour. On the net...people describe Romney's behaviour childlike. There is massive obsession about the Big Bird comment. That is not going away to the basic American.

We are critiquing the substance, the play---like it's political boxing. The American in general aren't looking at politics that way. They want to hear what you have to say. How many people in this country live for PBS? Basically the elderly, parents, and educators. Romney just said he would cut funding for that....how are people on this site thinking that Obama lost this debate. When it came to substance...Obama won. Because the American people understood all his comments.

Obama was calm, cool, collected, he mentioned teachers, and as such union workers---unlike Ed Schultz who said some nonsense about Obama not supporting Social Security---Obama said he would protect it and felt that we need reform---I figured all people knew and agreed on that. So let's just say I don't get Ed Schultz on this.

In any event...Romney is jumping in and interrupting and ripping the moderator to shreds and people watch that. They don't see it as a postiive. While the pundits on the other hand seem to see that as a positive thing. For the American there was a clear winner and only one person who knew the facts and did not say anything that would hurt the middle class but defend and protect the middle class.

That is Barack Obama and if the off topic netizens on twitter or facebook have anything to say---they support that. Who they felt lost the debate seemed like he was high and not able to discuss the issues like a normal person without interrupting.

I personally --- pundit like and political fiend think the deliveries were different. I felt Obama said the truth and I didn't understand 50% of what Romney said and what he did say that I understood---I was horrified by. Killing Big Bird...fuck that guy. Obama did let a lot of good digs fade away...but I understood that move in my opinion because he wanted to stay on substance. But I notice that pundits and a lot of us here--didn't care much for substance but for a show.

We have to move away from this thinking.

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This is the future of our nation-not a TV show: Pundits are not the General Public. (Original Post) vaberella Oct 2012 OP
Shameless kick. n/t vaberella Oct 2012 #1
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