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Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:42 PM

Question? My daughter wants to purchase the new Xbox series X

for my grandson in college. He is doing so well in this pandemic year and missed out on any senior fun due to the virus in his high school senior year, so I told her I would split the cost with her.

The price? $500. The catch? It is the gift of the season and sold out. Apparently Walmart was taking orders at 9 pm for a new batch, and daughter was online from 8:45 to reserve one. At 9:01 they were sold out. At 9:10 there were dozens on EBay for sale for $1,000.

How is this legal?

Pisses me off. The country is full of grifters and they always seem to get away with it.

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Reply Question? My daughter wants to purchase the new Xbox series X (Original post)
tavernier Nov 25 OP
Skittles Nov 25 #1
tavernier Nov 25 #10
TDale313 Nov 25 #12
Bettie Nov 25 #2
TDale313 Nov 25 #6
ChoppinBroccoli Nov 25 #3
tavernier Nov 25 #7
madwivoter Nov 25 #20
Withywindle Nov 26 #25
TDale313 Nov 25 #8
LiberalFighter Nov 25 #18
Hoyt Nov 25 #4
TDale313 Nov 25 #5
Alliepoo Nov 25 #9
tavernier Nov 25 #11
Alliepoo Nov 25 #13
TheBlackAdder Nov 25 #14
TheBlackAdder Nov 25 #19
Alliepoo Nov 26 #26
tavernier Nov 26 #28
TheBlackAdder Dec 7 #30
Initech Nov 25 #15
GulfCoast66 Nov 25 #16
Ace Rothstein Nov 25 #17
Willto Nov 26 #21
Archae Nov 26 #22
Nevilledog Nov 26 #23
quakerboy Nov 26 #24
Bengus81 Nov 26 #27
tavernier Nov 26 #29

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:18 PM

10. It's not hunger or homelessness for sure

but it isnít the purchase of an airplane or yacht. Itís a Christmas present split two ways for a pretty good kid who works hard for his grades. He didnít have a prom or a graduation and college has been masks and some classes but mostly a semester confined to his tiny dorm room. All activities are canceled. So we hoped to make his Christmas a bit brighter.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

12. You don't have to justify the post or wanting to make this purchase. n/t

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

2. That happened to the PS5 too

the sold out three seconds after they went on sale.

Then, they were on ebay for 1200 bucks each.

It sucks, but people are awful.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

6. Yeah. If anything worse than the XBox...

Cause sounds like supplies were even more limited.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

3. This Happens Every Time A New Console Comes Out

I remember the same thing happening when the PS3 came out. People rush out and buy them up hoping to make a killing re-selling them on Ebay. It's disgusting. Capitalism run amok. I think they should take a page from Trump and bring back firing squads for people who try to fund their retirement by buying up all the new consoles and then re-selling them at outrageous markups.

The way you beat them is you just wait a couple of months. Soon the stores will have so many lying around that they won't know what to do with them. And the added benefit of doing this is that it's become a not-very-well-kept secret that the new consoles are rushed out before they're completely quality tested, so they're generally full of bugs. It's always best to wait a few months on the new consoles to allow the bugs to be worked out. If you got one right now, chances are good you'd be spending most of 2021 wrestling with problems and/or waiting for it to be shipped to or from the manufacturer for repairs. You're better off waiting a few months.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:08 PM

7. Good advice. I passed it on to daughter.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:57 PM

20. I agree with the other posters to wait if you can

I'm a gamer and have been going through this since N64 and PS3

You might even be better off waiting a bit as you might get the next gen hardware which is usually better (you never know though).

When a new system comes out (hello there PS5...), I just dig into some of my older games and have some fun while I wait for the hype to dissipate. The tough thing is that it's hard to say when it will happen with the virus this time around.

Good luck to you! I think it's a great thing you guys are doing!

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Response to tavernier (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 06:08 AM

25. I say get him a few cheap things he can open on Xmas morning

And a card with a promise of this in a few months when the price is reasonable and bugs are worked out. He'll be happy.

Times are tough. Everybody is under stress. I'm sure he misses his friends - I certainly miss mine, and I'm 51. We're all doing our best. Harmless pleasures that don't involve plague risk are especially important right now.

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:12 PM

8. +1

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Response to ChoppinBroccoli (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:52 PM

18. Good info.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:59 PM

4. Like ticket scalpers. Heck, there are even people who sell popular

bottles of bourbonó that are in short supply ó for hundreds of dollars more than the usual retail price a few years ago.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:06 PM

5. Yeah, the scalpers suck.

Not illegal, but the retailers could be doing more to combat this. Iíve been trying to secure a PS5, but no luck. But itís a gift for myself, so if it has to wait, in my case nbd. Feel for anyone hoping to get one to give as a Christmas present.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:15 PM

9. I've been trying to get one too.

I was online at 9 and it was 30 seconds that they were sold out. My son said people use bots to buy multiple consoles. I was looking on eBay and saw sellers with pics of a big stack of Xboxís and asking $1500 -for something that sells for $499. Bunch of money grubbers. Ticks me right off. I tried Walmart last week, Best Buy on Sunday morning and Target never has them in stock. Iíve about given up. Wanted one for my 13 yo grandson-itís the only thing heís asked for Xmas. Iíll keep trying but itís not looking good. Good luck to you!!

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Response to Alliepoo (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:24 PM

11. Yes, we figured it was bots.

A shame that there isnít a way for them to allow real people to order. No wonder we worry about voting machines.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:27 PM

13. Reading ChoppinB's reply-

My son told me last week exactly the same thing CB said. He said after Xmas itíll be easier to get one. The eBay jerks return what they donít sell and supply also increases. He also said that first gen gaming systems usually have problems and it would be better to wait til theyíre worked out. I know all of this but I guess itís easy to get caught up in wanting to give a kid something they really want for Xmas. I think Iím going to look at a virtual reality system for my grandson and his siblings can enjoy it, too.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:28 PM

14. Yeah, had to give IOUs a couple of times. He's in college, he's old enough to understand.

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No way do you buy into the scalping, and there's marginal protection. I would wait until GameStop or Target has it. Buy it at some place that you can get an extended warranty, because the red ring of death is not uncommon, and since it's a new system, it's kinks have not been worked out.




You don't want to pre-order a Series X. Here's Why

A lot of Xbox fans have already pre-ordered the Xbox Series X and Series S. Some, however, didn't manage to reserve a new Xbox for themselves, but are still keeping their eyes peeled for additional stock at retailers. If you're one of those people, this may be a good time to look back at previous Xbox console launches. While it's understandable you'd want to snag a next-gen Xbox as soon as possible, there are a few good reasons why you should wait a bit before buying one of these new machines.

The biggest fiasco in the history of Xbox console launches is easily the Red Ring of Death. When the Xbox 360 was first released, there was a decent chance that it would quickly stop working altogether, effectively becoming a super expensive paperweight. Gamers would switch on their Xbox 360s and would be greeted with an upsetting sight: the usual green power light around the Xbox logo would instead have turned an ominous red. This was an indicator for a fatal system error that essentially rendered the system completely inoperable. After displaying the Red Ring of Death, 360 consoles couldn't even load the dashboard, much less play any of the new and exciting games that fans had just shelled out for.

While it appeared as though these were merely a series of isolated incidents, the problem became more and more widespread. With people quickly becoming furious with Microsoft, the company made the decision to recall and repair all of the defective consoles at no extra charge for the customer. This ended up costing Microsoft well over a billion dollars and gave many an Xbox customer a headache, but it ended up being a move that restored a lot of faith in the Xbox brand.

Still, the specter of the Red Ring of Death will hang heavily over every Xbox console launch. In fact, a similar problem occurred when the Xbox One finally launched in 2013. Within days of the console's launch, some customers were reporting that their Xbox One units were completely dying after only a few hours of use. Those who didn't have a console immediately "brick" itself ran into other issues with the new system. Some gamers reported that the Xbox One couldn't load any games; the console would instead constantly crash and reboot. Others said their games worked alright, but that the disc drive was absurdly loud, with some customers mentioning loud grinding sounds from the console that made them fear for their game discs.

https://www.svg.com/250341/you-dont-want-to-pre-order-a-series-x-heres-why/




The more you save, the more you can get additional options, games, controllers, etc.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:56 PM

19. Example: XBOX Series X is one week old, and problems exist

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The Xbox Series X is officially a week old, and like all video game consoles at launch that means early problems have already been reported by users. While some of these problems with the Xbox Series X are pretty minor - like app issues or a controller not pairing with the console - there are some bigger problems out there. Microsoft has remained fairly quiet regarding most of them, but they'll hopefully be fixed soon.

https://screenrant.com/xbox-series-x-problems-shutting-off-quick-resume/



Itís console launch week, which means that many fans are now opening and starting up their new hardware. While for the most part the Xbox Series X debut seems to be going well (now that Xbox Live is back online), some fans are reporting issues with their disc drives.

https://www.polygon.com/2020/11/11/21560233/xbox-series-x-disk-drive-sounds-inserting-game-issues-microsoft



Microsoft has warned Xbox Series X and S owners of a host of bugs with the new consoles, which are due to launch tomorrow.

The bugs include:

Problems with Blu-ray and DVD playback
Compatibility issues with selected 4K televisions
Failure to launch the EA Play app
Incompatibility with TV apps such as the BBC iPlayer and PeacockTV
Issues with the new Quick Resume games feature

https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrycollins/2020/11/09/xbox-series-x-hit-by-several-big-launch-bugs/?sh=7a16fe43453e



Link to the Known Bugs that are published in the Microsoft Community (might be unpublished ones that are at Level 3 support being investigated):

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/xbox/forum/xba_console/known-issues-on-xbox-series-xs/221c9d7f-dc91-4067-ba81-33ab671179b5


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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 07:44 AM

26. Thanks for posting all of this info, TBA!

It makes me feel much better actually reading about the bugs and problems folks are experiencing with new systems. It makes sense to delay the purchase and wait for the problems to be resolved and itís something I can explain to my grandson and point him in the direction of these articles so he can read it for himself!

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #19)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 08:17 AM

28. Very much appreciated

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Response to tavernier (Reply #28)

Mon Dec 7, 2020, 12:30 AM

30. And here's why to wait for the PS5.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:47 PM

15. Every new tech is going to be sold out for a while.

I want a RTX 3080 GPU for my PC but they are near impossible to find and retailers sell out faster than they can get them in. It sucks but I bet give it a few months and once the vaccine starts getting distributed that demand will be going down.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:48 PM

16. Being disappointed is a part of becoming an adult. Explain the situation to him.

He seems mature and will understand. In a few months it will be available at the retail price.

As far as legal? They have something and set the price. You pay it or not. Itís not like gas after a hurricane where you canít Jack up the price. It a game. We donít need the government setting the price people can charge for game consoles. He can ask 10K for all I care. Someone will pay it.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Wed Nov 25, 2020, 11:51 PM

17. The first gen of a new system always has some issues.

I don't think there are any games on the X that you can't get on the Xbox. I would wait 6 months, that's what I'm doing.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 12:56 AM

21. It sucks

Wanted to get a PS5 for my 13 year old but it looks to be impossible. The large retailers like Wal-Mart could take some very easy steps to stop the bot accounts and the scalpers but they apparently don't give two shits about their customers.

All it would take to stop the bots is a captcha type step in the ordering process. You know one of those deals where you have to identify certain images to proceed. And then the simplest step would be to limit each customers online purchase to one or two units at a time.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:03 AM

22. Not surprised...

But I have an XBox 360 and an Xbox One.

So far I still have most of my games just for the 360, especially the Skylanders games.

But I still also have a Gamecube, and PS2.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:07 AM

23. We always wait to get a bundle deal on new consoles at Costco

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:16 AM

24. I gotta say

I was much more upset about people doing this with TP and PPE and hand sanitizer than with games.

With games, thats just the natural product of capitalism. No one will die if they dont have the first issue of a mass produced gaming system. give it a little time and they will have plenty on the shelves at the regular store price.

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Response to tavernier (Original post)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 08:12 AM

27. So give him a nice card on Christmas for a new Xbox..........

That she will buy for him in the first week or two after Christmas when the raping ends. So he has to wait a bit but she doesn't need to get nailed by some shyster playing scalper.

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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 26, 2020, 08:20 AM

29. He is perfectly fine with that.

She was the one disappointed because she wanted to surprise him with it and spent hours trying to find one.
Moms are funny like that.

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