Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:15 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
🚨BREAKING: Pennsylvania Federal Court DENIES Republican effort to block Allegheny CountyLink to tweet 🚨BREAKING: Pennsylvania Federal Court DENIES Republican effort to block Allegheny County from including ballots in certification.
Trump and his allies are now 1-38 in post election litigation. 1-38!
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Roland99 | Nov 25 | OP |
Demsrule86 | Nov 25 | #1 | |
Roland99 | Nov 25 | #3 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #6 | |
Roland99 | Nov 25 | #11 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #12 | |
Roland99 | Nov 25 | #14 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 25 | #10 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #9 | |
PTWB | Nov 25 | #13 | |
Roland99 | Nov 25 | #16 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #17 | |
Roland99 | Nov 25 | #18 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #21 | |
Roland99 | Nov 25 | #24 | |
LeftInTX | Nov 26 | #35 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #19 | |
PTWB | Nov 25 | #20 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #22 | |
Demsrule86 | Nov 25 | #23 | |
Blue Owl | Nov 25 | #2 | |
warmfeet | Nov 25 | #15 | |
Evolve Dammit | Nov 25 | #27 | |
ailsagirl | Nov 25 | #31 | |
flying rabbit | Nov 25 | #33 | |
DeminPennswoods | Nov 25 | #4 | |
Cha | Nov 25 | #5 | |
Cha | Nov 25 | #7 | |
grumpyduck | Nov 25 | #8 | |
world wide wally | Nov 25 | #25 | |
Initech | Nov 25 | #26 | |
Initech | Nov 25 | #28 | |
Rice4VP | Nov 25 | #29 | |
questionseverything | Nov 26 | #34 | |
ailsagirl | Nov 25 | #30 | |
Retrograde | Nov 25 | #32 |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:19 PM
Demsrule86 (51,155 posts)
1. Does this end the orange GOP judges quest to stop certification in PA?
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:21 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
3. Nope. That was supposed to have a hearing this afternoon and on Friday
But, presidential election is already certified. That was done a couple of days ago. The suit to stop certification would only affect down ballot races
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Response to Roland99 (Reply #3)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:23 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
6. That's something different and it was filed in state, not federal,
court.
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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #6)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:33 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
11. That's right. State Supreme Court, right?
Response to Roland99 (Reply #11)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:39 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
12. Filed in Commonwealth Court
It seeks to invalidate Act 77 which the R-controlled state legislature passed and Gov Wolf signed that expanded voting by removing the restrictions (must be medically unable to vote in person or document that you will be out of state/area) on absentee voting thus making PA a "no excuse absentee ballot" voting state.
Judge granted a prelim injunction stopping cert of any elections that haven't yet been certified, but presidential vote was certified prior to her order. However, AG Shapiro/Dems appealed directly to the state Supreme Court and the judge has cancelled the hearing she had sched for Friday waiting for the Supreme Court to decide if it wants to accept the state's appeal. |
Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #12)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:45 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
14. What a tangled web. Makes NFL playoff formulas look like 1+1
Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #1)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:28 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
9. No, there's still a suit in Commonwealth Court to
have Act 77 declared unconstitutional and thus invalidate all 2.7M mailed ballots. The judge granted a preliminary injuction and enjoined the state from certifying any results not already certified which the presidential results are. There was supposed to be an evidentiary hearing on Friday.
However, AG Shapiro/Dems skipped right over the Commonwealth Court and appealed directly to the State Supreme Court. After that happened, the Commonwealth Court judge post-poned/canx the hearing scheduled for Friday in case the Supreme Court chooses to take the case. |
Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:44 PM
PTWB (2,658 posts)
13. I doubt there is any real risk of that.
Even if Act 77 is declared unconstitutional we are in no danger of having 2.7M mail-in ballots invalidated. There was ample time to bring the suit prior to the election. At worst, Act 77 would be invalidated for future elections.
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Response to PTWB (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:51 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
16. Marc Elias just tweeted about it. We're good
Link to tweet There are lots of things in the world to worry about right now but the Pennsylvania election result is not one of them.
The governor has certified the results pursuant to federal law. Joe Biden will be sworn in on January 20th. |
Response to PTWB (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:53 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
17. Yeah, that's what I think, too.
Any ruling that Act 77 is unconstitutional would not be retroactive. If so, all the June primary results would be invalidated, too.
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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #17)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:54 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
18. I also look at Bush v Gore. SCOTUS simply said stop counting. Certify
Response to Roland99 (Reply #18)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:57 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
21. Remember this is PA state.commonwealth court, not federal court
nt
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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #21)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:05 PM
Roland99 (52,058 posts)
24. Right. But the reasoning holds
Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #17)
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:52 AM
LeftInTX (14,726 posts)
35. We had a similar thing happen in Texas
The governor wrote an EO to expand early voting in the July primary runoff..
Then, on July 27th, he wrote an EO to expand early voting in the November election. Allen West sued on Sept 23rd saying it was unconstitutional (similar to the way Act 77 could be considered unconstitutional). Repubs were saying, "Don't vote the first week of early voting, cuz your vote will get thrown out". https://www.texastribune.org/2020/09/23/texas-republicans-greg-abbott-early-voting/ The Texas Supreme Court on Wednesday rejected a bid by leading state Republicans to overturn Gov. Greg Abbott’s order that added six days of early voting as a pandemic safety measure. https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/07/texas-supreme-court-rejects-gop-leaders-bid-limit-voting-time/5909352002/ They also tried to throw out 127,000 Harris County votes. Texas Supreme Court rejects effort to throw out 127,000 Harris County votes https://wacotrib.com/news/state-and-regional/lawsuit-throw-out-127-000-texas-votes-from-drive-thru-sites-in-houston/article_45dff7c0-1be7-11eb-b5f6-d799f22930ad.html Our State Supreme Court is all Republican. Everything is Republican in this state. |
Response to PTWB (Reply #13)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:55 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
19. In fact, Act 77 included a provision allowing for
challenges within a 180 day window. Not a peep before now.
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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #19)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:56 PM
PTWB (2,658 posts)
20. The window is relatively meaningless.
An unconstitutional law cannot attach a time limit to challenge its constitutionality to the law itself.
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Response to PTWB (Reply #20)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:58 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
22. State Rs wrote it, not me.
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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #9)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:05 PM
Demsrule86 (51,155 posts)
23. OK, I bet it is gone by Thursday.
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:20 PM
Blue Owl (31,165 posts)
2. Wompity Womp Womp Womp
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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:48 PM
warmfeet (3,321 posts)
15. I am going to assume that there is a very high waterfall
at the end of this run.
![]() Hopefully, it is several thousand feet high. Ironically, the only thing the investigators will find is a pair of very tiny hands and a few strands of hair, dyed yellow. |
Response to Blue Owl (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:10 PM
Evolve Dammit (4,399 posts)
27. great graphic!
Response to Blue Owl (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:19 PM
ailsagirl (20,752 posts)
31. ... proclaiming all the while that he won...
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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #2)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 10:10 PM
flying rabbit (3,786 posts)
33. Snagging this one
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:22 PM
DeminPennswoods (11,371 posts)
4. The PA supreme court also declined to revisit
it's decision to allow some 2 or 3 thousand ballots that were without a hand-written date from the voter but received before the 8PM deadline on election day.
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:24 PM
Cha (268,459 posts)
7. trump & his Bad Faith thugs.. 1-38
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 07:25 PM
grumpyduck (3,320 posts)
8. I think his campaign should apply for
a Guinness record for the most losses.
Or maybe they're holding off for a higher count? |
Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 08:51 PM
world wide wally (19,472 posts)
25. 1-38?....... Fire the coach already
Response to world wide wally (Reply #25)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:06 PM
Initech (85,858 posts)
26. Shit, even Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck would throw in the towel on those numbers!
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:10 PM
Initech (85,858 posts)
28. Holy shit! I think the Generals have a better win - loss record against the Harlem Globetrotters!
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:12 PM
Rice4VP (1,173 posts)
29. So, what is this story?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pennsylvania-judge-halts-election-certification-mail-in-vote-lawsuit I’ve been driving since 1pm so don’t know what’s the latest |
Response to Rice4VP (Reply #29)
Thu Nov 26, 2020, 01:29 AM
questionseverything (6,697 posts)
34. That happened earlier then the state took them to state Supreme Court and won
If I understand correctly
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:18 PM
ailsagirl (20,752 posts)
30. YAY!!!!!
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Response to Roland99 (Original post)
Wed Nov 25, 2020, 09:51 PM
Retrograde (7,572 posts)
32. I'm confused - which case is this again?
Can we start numbering them so it's easier to keep track of all these suits. Maybe something like PA-11-25-01 for the first one filed today, and so on?
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