Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:50 PM

LSFL (1,096 posts)

I know everyone wants payback

Can you imagine the info the intelligence services must have on this criminal administration? The spin cycle is ending
The wash is about to come out.

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13 replies	Author	Time	Post
I know everyone wants payback (Original post)	LSFL	Nov 23	OP
Fun dayn moyl zu Got's oyem	maxsolomon	Nov 23	#1
Although we will have a fully independent DOJ	leftieNanner	Nov 23	#5
You can't? You remember 2009, right?	maxsolomon	Nov 23	#10
It's not payback. It's justice and accountability for criminal conduct.	Nevilledog	Nov 23	#2
This.	Dagstead Bumwood	Nov 23	#8
i dont think thats right. i think we all want justice. fair and equal justice under the law.	bullimiami	Nov 23	#3
In this case	LSFL	Nov 23	#7
Payback for injustice? I guess so.	bullimiami	Nov 23	#13
I just want justice. If it is rewarding, then fine.	dem4decades	Nov 23	#4
It's not about justice, it's not even about payback. . .	DinahMoeHum	Nov 23	#6
Not payback. Accountability.	Caliman73	Nov 23	#9
Not so much payback but there needs to be laws passed to prevent	doc03	Nov 23	#11
I don't want pay back. I want criminals to serve time for crimes like every else.	onecaliberal	Nov 23	#12

Response to LSFL (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:52 PM

maxsolomon (23,553 posts)

1. Fun dayn moyl zu Got's oyem

From your mouth to God's ears.

It depends what Biden wants to come out. I suspect we'll all be frustrated.

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:54 PM

leftieNanner (8,838 posts)

5. Although we will have a fully independent DOJ

And the new AG may have some leeway in whether to charge people or not.

If they have uncovered truly egregious crimes, I can't imagine letting it all slide.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 08:00 PM

maxsolomon (23,553 posts)

10. You can't? You remember 2009, right?

Iraq was a literal War Crime, but Obama chose "healing", and it was not without reason.

I will be happy if there's something like a Truth and Reconciliation effort, or the unredacted Mueller Report is released. I don't expect a single Trumpist to be prosecuted - Trump will preemptively pardon everyone who worked in his Admin including himself.

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:52 PM

Nevilledog (20,235 posts)

2. It's not payback. It's justice and accountability for criminal conduct.

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Response to Nevilledog (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:56 PM

Dagstead Bumwood (1,073 posts)

8. This.

It's like Ivanka whining about them looking at her taxes. It's not harassment, dummy, it's called justice.

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Response to LSFL (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:53 PM

bullimiami (10,993 posts)

3. i dont think thats right. i think we all want justice. fair and equal justice under the law.

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Response to bullimiami (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:55 PM

LSFL (1,096 posts)

7. In this case

Justice is payback

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Response to LSFL (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 08:14 PM

bullimiami (10,993 posts)

13. Payback for injustice? I guess so.

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:53 PM

dem4decades (7,168 posts)

4. I just want justice. If it is rewarding, then fine.

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:55 PM

DinahMoeHum (19,760 posts)

6. It's not about justice, it's not even about payback. . .

It's about PUNISHMENT

Period.

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Response to LSFL (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2020, 07:58 PM

Caliman73 (7,272 posts)

9. Not payback. Accountability.

Look, if a Democratic politician breaks the law and hurts people, I want that politician to have a consequence. If a Republican does it, I want the same, consequences.

Payback is about a personal score to settle. This is about letting ANY corrupt politician know that they will be held to account for hurting the people they are supposed to be serving.

The problem with what the intelligence services have on the administration is that power tends to protect power. If there is a way to do things without actually holding people accountable and facing real consequences, the people in power will tend toward that solution.

I wouldn't be holding my breath waiting on anyone to go to jail or face real consequences. It would be wonderful if it happened, but not within the norm for our history as a nation.

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 08:07 PM

doc03 (26,870 posts)

11. Not so much payback but there needs to be laws passed to prevent

Trump or someone else from coming that close to a coup in the future. Number one their tax records, a president should not be able to
give someone a clearance after the NSA has denied them. The electoral college needs to go but I don't think it can be done. The congress needs to be able to enforce subpoenas. Dozens of other laws Trump has just ignored need to have consequences. Something has to be done to prevent another AG Barr.

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Mon Nov 23, 2020, 08:09 PM

onecaliberal (19,014 posts)

12. I don't want pay back. I want criminals to serve time for crimes like every else.

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