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Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:40 PM

So will Joe be the 46th. president or the 47th?

I'm really not sure. What do you think?

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Reply So will Joe be the 46th. president or the 47th? (Original post)
bluestarone Saturday OP
DonaldsRump Saturday #1
bluestarone Saturday #3
Ahpook Saturday #15
DonaldsRump Saturday #17
Ahpook Saturday #18
DemoTex Saturday #2
bluestarone Saturday #4
Jeebo Saturday #5
Stinky The Clown Saturday #6
HubertHeaver Saturday #8
Stinky The Clown Saturday #23
Jeebo Saturday #25
kskiska Saturday #31
Keth Saturday #7
ShazzieB Saturday #21
JI7 Saturday #9
StClone Saturday #10
beastie boy Saturday #11
bluestarone Saturday #12
beastie boy Saturday #16
Kablooie Saturday #13
bullimiami Saturday #14
TheBlackAdder Saturday #19
TlalocW Saturday #27
PirateRo Saturday #20
mtnsnake Saturday #22
StevieM Saturday #26
c-rational Saturday #29
Imallin4Joe Saturday #24
dweller Saturday #28
maveric Saturday #30
Thunderbeast Saturday #32

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:42 PM

1. On a whim, I'm gonna' say 47

Trump wants/needs a pardon and he will be too ashamed to go to Joe's inauguration. For those 2 reasons alone, I think Trump will resign and let Pence pardon him.

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Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:43 PM

3. That's what i'm thinking as well!

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Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:07 PM

15. May I ask a question? :)

The guy is a straight up asshole, and committed or committing obvious crimes, but doesn't he need to be found guilty of something before a pardon can happen?

Sadly, there is nothing to pardon him of.

I am asking honestly! Someone can be pardoned before an actual charge has been dropped?

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Response to Ahpook (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:11 PM

17. Yes

A person can be pardoned for any federal crime. For example, in September 1974, Gerald Ford pardoned Richard Nixon for any federal crimes he may have committed while he was Presidednt, regardless of whether he was charged or not.

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Response to DonaldsRump (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:14 PM

18. Ohh ok

It's an across the board pardon for any federal crime? That's pretty powerful! Not sure I like that idea but that's how it is.

Thank you

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:42 PM

2. I'd pencil in 46, for now.

But have the eraser ready!

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Response to DemoTex (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:44 PM

4. LOL!

Yep keep eraser handy!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:46 PM

5. I've been thinking for a long time he might resign and let Pence be #46 for a week or two.

We'll find out.

-- Ron

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Response to Jeebo (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:48 PM

6. What's in that for Pence?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:54 PM

8. That is negotiable.

The deeper into January we get, the more valuable the position becomes.

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Response to HubertHeaver (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:58 PM

23. If Trump resigns and Pence assumes the Presidency and there is no pardon, Pence survives

If there is a pardon it is Pence's political suicide.

Again, what's in it for Pense?

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Response to Stinky The Clown (Reply #23)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:14 PM

25. He gets to be president for a week or two.

Simple.

I'm not saying it's what's going to happen, I'm just saying it's possible.

-- Ron

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:52 PM

7. Okay

I think 46th. I also think Trump - good riddance - will not resign but will probably not show up at the inauguration. I mean, it will be about President Biden, not him. And he might be afraid the crowd might start chanting "Lock Him Up!"

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Response to Keth (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:17 PM

21. I agree about the inauguration.

I'll be astounded, gobsmacked, and flabbergasted if Trump shows for it. There's no way his narcissistic ego would allow that, and he wouldn't be able to stand being there, watching Biden get sworn jnto the job Trump thinks he's entitled to. His head would explode.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:55 PM

9. I think it will end up 47th .

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:55 PM

10. I have heard Pence may have a say in this

Pence is considering a run for "Pope of the United States of Evangelicals Reformed (POUSER)" and letting off T-rump has to be weighed as to pros and cons. Becoming Prez for a moment and pardoning could help him with Trump's Cult or hurt him with reality-based Americans.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:57 PM

11. Ther is no need for pence to become 46th president to pardon trump.

25th amendment, section 3:

Section 3.

Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.


pence can do it as an acting president, without ever becoming 46. Trump, being a scumbag himself and thus suspecting scumbaggery from everyone else, will probably feel safer if he didn't have to resign. Imagine if he resigns and pence, having become 46, decides to blackmail trump by withholding a pardon. Wouldn't that be a riot? I am sure this is the first thing that runs through trump's demented mind.

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Response to beastie boy (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:00 PM

12. Lots of interesting maybe things that could happen huh?

We'll wait to see!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:11 PM

16. Oh yeah. And none of them have been tested with precedent

If you ask me, the whole 25th amendment is a bag of firecrackers ready to explode in one's face if one is not careful.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:04 PM

13. I'd bet on 47th

Of course first it could give him a get out of jail card
but also it will grab all the headlines which is even more important to him.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:05 PM

14. i'm putting my money on 47. not a sure bet but i think its smart money.

first. i dont think he will chance leaving office without a pardon.

second. a self-pardon is on pretty shaky ground. even with this court. because if they allow trump to do it then it becomes every following presidents right. including biden and including harris. (fingers crossed). besides it being antithetical to our countries fundamental raison d'etre.
he might try it if insaniacs like rudy convince him but i dont think even he is that gone yet.



good point about maybe pulling a 25th Am scam so that pence could be "acting president" and execute the pardon.
that might work around trumps ego because resignation will surely be a butt burn.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:15 PM

19. Trump will hold out so Biden creates a bunch of 46 merch then do the pardon switcheroo.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:55 PM

27. I was suggesting that back in 2016

Obama, just to fuck with Trump, should have resigned, let Joe be president for one day, and then all of Trump's 45 merchandise wouldn't sell.

TlalocW

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:16 PM

20. Only if you have a time machine...

Sadly, there are no mulligans for Agolf Twittler. Life and numbers move on. I wish you did have a time machine. We could go back and fix this.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:34 PM

22. On paper Joe will be the 46th, but in reality he'll be the 45th.

Trump was never a president.

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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:23 PM

26. Totally agreed.

James Comey won that election for the GOP. Trump was such a lousy candidate that he almost blew it for them.

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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #22)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:31 PM

29. +1

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:05 PM

24. I'm with you..

Illegitimate Prez's like Trump and Bush have had me asking that for the past 20 years.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:01 PM

28. Just for grins

Letís say BOTH !


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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:34 PM

30. Or the 48th. If T**** resigns.

And if Pence resigns.
Nancy would be 47.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:05 PM

32. May I remind you all that Biden will be the 45th or 46th

PERSON to serve as President!

Grover Cleveland certainly screwed up the math.

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