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Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:21 AM

Trump's Karma has already kicked in

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It’s unlikely that the Trump creature will ever go to jail. And even if he’s fined for his every last dollar, his MAGAts will donate enough to keep him financially secure for the rest of his miserable existence.

But here’s the good news. Donald Trump will never again have another day of peace for rest in his life. He will find himself without cronies, (he never had a friend), broke, and facing endless government and civil prosecutions. His life of grifting may not be over since he will wring every cent he can from those who still love “Dear Leader.” But his life of “being in charge” will soon be gone.

Before becoming president, he fucked every contractor who ever worked for him, sold steaks, colleges, and every piece of pure bullshit imaginable to scam money from people who had hopes, dreams and little money. He’s spent his entire life stealing from those who didn’t “get it.” And then he played on the fears and racism of far too many Americans (and with the help of Vladimir Putin) to turn the American presidency into an office of pure cruelty, hatred and destruction.

His perception of his “own magnificence” didn’t end on Nov. 3. He lost the election. But ever since, he’s been in courts, threatening state legislators, and tweeting his ass off that he won. It ain’t working.

And normal human beings can only rejoice in his impotence and fear. He’s over, done through. Except for one small thing. -- He’s still pResident for about eight more weeks. And, in theory, he can nuke Iran, Sweden, Detroit, or anyplace else that pisses him off at any moment. I truly believe (hope?) the military leadership will ignore his orders/insanity.

This bitter, cruel, beastly creature is now suffering because the scams that he has practiced his whole life are no longer working. He fears what lies ahead if he can’t cling to the power of the presidency. He fears that his puppet master, Putin, will desert him once he’s no longer of use. He fears being prosecuted for his crimes that aren't covered by a presidential pardon. He fears the wrath of decent human beings.

May he live long in fear and suffer horribly.

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Reply Trump's Karma has already kicked in (Original post)
Cyrano Saturday OP
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malaise Saturday #2
luv2fly Saturday #3
blueinredohio Saturday #22
Ligyron Saturday #32
PunksMom Saturday #4
Karma13612 Saturday #45
PunksMom Saturday #50
no_hypocrisy Saturday #5
Eyeball_Kid Saturday #38
North Shore Chicago Saturday #6
niyad Saturday #31
Laelth Saturday #7
kentuck Saturday #11
Laelth Saturday #12
kentuck Saturday #13
Laelth Saturday #15
Eyeball_Kid Saturday #41
Cyrano Saturday #43
FM123 Saturday #8
kentuck Saturday #9
oasis Saturday #10
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Lonestarblue Saturday #33
oasis Saturday #48
NNadir Saturday #17
llmart Saturday #18
Jon King Saturday #19
treestar Saturday #20
Dark n Stormy Knight Saturday #49
Thekaspervote Saturday #28
warmfeet Saturday #21
c-rational Saturday #36
zentrum Saturday #23
panfluteman Saturday #24
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Karma13612 Saturday #46
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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:25 AM

1. Been saying...

That he’ll never have a good day again. You laid out some of the reasons. Thank you.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:27 AM

2. I don't think he'll live long enough to suffer

His ego won't survive being the biggest loser and the laughing stock of the world.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:28 AM

3. If he doesn't go to prison

Nothing will change other than him being an EX impeached president. He'll make news, the media will swarm. Cult followers can't help but follow.

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:11 AM

22. This!

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Response to luv2fly (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:30 AM

32. That's right.

If we don’t put an exclamation point on the principle that NO man is above the law then those principles will be forever in doubt. As was mentioned, what are we supposed to say to the brighter students when we expound those principles and they laughingly point to Trump? Or Nixon for that matter; both members of one particular political party oddly enough? The argument that a President cannot be arrested and jailed while in office is compromising enough, wtf do we have VP’s for? Just to pardon them?

Ridiculous.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:30 AM

4. I've always believed

in Karma.

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Response to PunksMom (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:20 AM

45. Same here!

Hence my user name!

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Response to Karma13612 (Reply #45)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:08 PM

50. Good one:)

👍👍👍

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:35 AM

5. Extra Added Bonus:

Death in the Viper's Nest.

Stopping-Before-It-Begins: The potential for any and/or all of Trump's children from gaining political office, particularly the WH.

We've witnessed all since 2016. Jared and Ivanka joking which one of them would be President first (from Fire and Fury). Junior and Eric with their hit-and-run Tweets, "just to own the Libs." The expectation of family dynasty. The rallies for Junior with the chants of "2024! 2024!" Trump trying to get a photo-op for his kids with the British young guard (Harry and William) which he would caption "The Next Generation of Leaders."

I've had dual sentiments of being disgusted and being apprehensive. I had no illusions that Trump would try to install Ivanka in the WH incrementally. He tried to get the RNC to approve her as his running mate. In 2016, the suggestion was shot down; in 2020, I had my doubts; but then again, Mike Pence ain't going nowhere.

Let the kids be prosecuted with their father on the NYS Family Plan.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:55 AM

38. The Trump kids are all lazy and don't want to work for what they get.

They're all living on Donnie's bombast and the false wealth he created. They all remind me of the great meme that was associated with GW Bush: they all were born on third base and thought they hit a triple.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:37 AM

6. Recently,

I had a dream that Mother Earth started spinning, spinning, spinning so fast. We, the good guys were fine, life went on, BUT fuck-sticks like trump, Miller, Pompeo, Putin et al were all tossed off the planet!

It was so real, woke up happy and relaxed. Perhaps a metaphor for the cleansing we are due.

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Response to North Shore Chicago (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:28 AM

31. A lovely dream. Thank you for sharing it with us!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:42 AM

7. I agree, in principle.

But only because every single day of his life is miserable, and whether or not he is President is irrelevant in that regard.

If there’s one, positive thing that many people have noted about Trump’s performance as President, it has been his extraordinary accessibility. When a powerful or important person calls, Trump answers the phone. I don’t see this changing anytime soon. I think that Trump will continue to exercise significant power within the Republican Party because he still controls the loyalty of his base, and he will continue to answer the phone once he’s out of office. I don’t think he has the ability to be quiet and “fade away” like George W. Bush did.



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:45 AM

11. There will be Republicans that will conspire against him.

Especially those that might have presidential ambitions?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:49 AM

12. No doubt, and he will eat that up.

He enjoys the combat, and it will prove to him that he is still relevant ... still powerful.

-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:56 AM

13. The Battle of the Mobs?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:59 AM

15. I pity Trump's opponents.

He’s a pro at that deadly game.



-Laelth

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Response to Laelth (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:59 AM

41. Trump hasn't been a defendant in a criminal court case.

He's been in civil court cases and never fared well, but he's always had enough money to settle out of court. The state of New York, and possible the federal DOJ, will change all of that. He can't buy off a criminal indictment. I'm looking forward to the arraignments.

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Response to Eyeball_Kid (Reply #41)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:18 AM

43. Kidnapping and putting children in cages is a

crime against humanity that carries a penalty of life in prison, or the federal death penalty.

You just know he's going to either pardon himself, or have Pence do it. But the orange prick will spend every moment of the rest of his life in dread of the consequences of his actions that are waiting for him somewhere, somehow. And he knows he will die in misery, hated and alone.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:42 AM

8. Very well said!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:43 AM

9. Well, you know what they do in the Mob, right?

If they can't take out the King...? They go after his Family? Is this the direction this is going? Who knows?

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:45 AM

10. Release the hounds on his sorry ass. nt

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Response to oasis (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:57 AM

14. Use the Big Boot on him...

...and kick his Big Butt out of the People's House.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:05 AM

16. And once he's out, the MSM should cease daily coverage of his every tweet. nt

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Response to oasis (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:32 AM

33. I've already decided that I'll cancel news subscriptions if this does not happen.

I believe in a free press and pay for several subscriptions (more than I really should) because of that. On a national level, that includes the NYT and WaPo. But if they continue to give space to Trump once he’s out of office, I will no longer support them. The only thing I want to see them publish about Trump is his obituary.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #33)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:58 AM

48. I'll tune back in on Trump's criminal prosecution for tax fraud. nt

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:50 AM

17. I'm reasonably optimistic that he'll die in prison. N/t

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:02 AM

18. I believe he has more to fear from Putin then just deserting him.

He knows what Putin's henchmen are capable of doing with someone who Putin no longer needs. He'll be suspicious of every hamberder he puts in his mouth (or tea he drinks). Living under the stresses he will have of all this fear may cause him to stroke out sooner rather than later.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:02 AM

19. His entire family is screwed...

His supporters don't have money, most are broke. His campaign ran out of money. His massive debts will quickly eat up any money he grifts. His business loans are due, creditors won't want to associate with him. You will see the trump name coming down all over the world. He survived on credit and that will dry up. Behind the scenes plenty of pressure can be put on any bank or country who tries to loan him money.

Our kids are involved in international tennis. The parents from all over the world hate Trump and that is growing each week he plays this game with democracy. Folks are vastly underestimating the hatred for all things Trump around the world. Once his veil of Presidential powers expires on Jan 20th, you will see his entire family empire gradually be destroyed.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:06 AM

20. Which might not have happened had he not gone for the Presidency

Hubris that brought him down.

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Response to treestar (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:03 PM

49. Vengeful hubris.

Because Seth Meyers made people laugh at him in public. Meanwhile, he'd spent his life destroying other people's with his misuse of his undeserved power. He whines about mistreatment as POuTUS, yet was a very vocal and unjust critic of Obama. Not to mention the absurdity of his claim to having been the "worst treated prez in history!!!" Not sure Lincoln & Kennedy, for instance, would agree.

Karma has a lot of work to do with this one.

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Response to Jon King (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:20 AM

28. Agree

Althou I have my doubts he will ever go to prison, I do believe he and his ilk will be miserably broke and a larger part of the population of the WORLD will or already despises them.

The numbers of ppl that will turn against him, or already hate him is a much much larger number than his cult, which will eventually fall away as well. Plus he despises his cult members, they will be of no support emotionally or financially. Anyone with any real money will abandon him once out of power...they already are!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:10 AM

21. Not nearly good enough.

He must face legal consequences for his actions. Anything short of that and we will lose any semblance of Democracy in this country. The next autocrat will succeed where the orange grifter has failed. I do not think it will take very long at all until a much smarter, more ambitious autocrat/dictator wannabe succeeds in taking full control of our governmental institutions. Much of the groundwork has already been laid. Our best chance to maintain our Democratic institutions is to strongly discourage criminal behavior by the executive. Just my opinion, but I am far from alone in thinking that this is a real threat. I also realize that my control over this is likely limited to contacting my senators, my representative and the next executive administration. I will continue to do so in the hope that real legal action takes place.

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Response to warmfeet (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:41 AM

36. Well said. For the sake of our democracy, there must be consequences, not only for him, but

also for his enablers. This is why I appreciate him being sued in Michigan over the election. The county election canvassers who wanted to rescind their certification of the vote should als be sued. Their position was not within their administrative duties/purview. They and all others NEED to pay a price for their misdeeds for the sake of our Democracy.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:12 AM

23. Nah. Cults don't

….just fade away. He'll start a media outlet to the right of FOX, funded by Mercer etc. and he'll carry on his aggrieved martyrdom with followers who have merged with him in that cultic way.

Crowds may diminish, but even the MSM will cover his antics and keep the cash cow going as long as possible.

Making Biden's job harder along the way.

71M followers are not going to go quietly into that goodnight.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:14 AM

24. Yep - Trump's Negative Karma IS Finally Kicking In!

If one studies Trump's natal astrology chart, one finds that the whole core of his chart centers around the axis of his Lunar Nodes, which is the Axis of Karma in astrology. Trump was born about a couple of hours before the Full Moon, with his Sun in Gemini in the eleventh house, and his Moon tightly opposing it in Sagittarius in the fifth house. In addition, Trump has his Ascendant in Leo, exactly conjunct the Royal Star Regulus - so he has always considered himself to be a king. The ruler of his Leo Ascendant, his Sun, is in Gemini, with the Sun symbolizing the father in astrology. His Sun is also conjunct his North Node, his point of optimum spiritual growth and unfoldment in life, and so he emulated his father as the way to get ahead, with Gemini being the archetype of the glib sophist, the moral shapeshifter, the con man - and that's the role model his father set for him. The eleventh house is also connected with income in astrology, so his dad was his main source of funding.

Anyway, one thing I noticed as Biden was winning the election was that the transiting axis of the Lunar Nodes was coming into an exact alignment - exact same sign, exact same degree - as the axis of his Lunar Nodes in his natal chart. What better way, astrologically speaking, to symbolize his karma finally catching up to him? I chuckled when I saw that, and said to myself, "Donald Trump is finally getting his karmic comeuppance!"

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #24)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:18 AM

44. Wow, you have a comprehensive understanding of astrology!

A lot of folks here would be down on astrology, but I think it has relevance. I remember reading somewhere that dump's chart has a weird and powerful bent towards authoritarianism.

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Response to bedazzled (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:26 PM

51. Just About Everything About Donald Trump Can Be Seen In His Natal Astrology Chart.

His authoritarianism? Authoritarianism is the shadow side of Leo, and Trump has a Leo Ascendant. Not only that, but Trump's natal Ascendant is at 29 degrees of Leo, which, at that time, was conjunct, to the same sign and degree, as the Royal Star Regulus - so Donald Trump always considered himself to be a king, and tries to govern like one.

His divisiveness. combativeness and raging libido? That's because Trump has Mars, the god of war, and the planet of libido, sitting right on his Ascendant, about three degrees away from it, on the eleventh house side.

His rebelliousness, mood instability, iconclasm, taste for chaos and lack of discipline? That's because his Uranus is tightly conjunct his Sun.

I mentioned that Trump's natal Ascendant, or Rising Sign, is at 29 degrees of Leo, conjunct the Royal Fixed Star Regulus, to the same sign and degree. I also mentioned how Mars the planet of libido, being fairly tightly conjunct his Ascendant as well, gave him an uncontrollable libido. Well - when the Royal Fixed Star Regulus ingressed into the tropical sign of Virgo, the sign of the Virgin, due to equinoctial precession, that coincided very closely with the emergence of the Me Too movement, which Trump's sexual indiscretions and assault allegations were very much involved in.

Yeah - after studying and practicing astrology for many years, I think there is definitely something to it. An astrological mentor of mine was fond of saying that if someone tells you they don't believe in astrology, you can be absolutely certain that they have never studied it.

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #51)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:48 PM

52. I wish i had enough years left

And a sharp enough brain to.understand.it more. The thing I remember about his chart is that most of his influences were im the same area, which is, i assume, odd

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:15 AM

25. I'll use small words

To the pain

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:15 AM

26. But can't you just imagine

trump creating his own brand of chewing tobacco, jacked up truck parts, machine guns, red ball caps with anti-dem sayings, BBQ sauce, perhaps opening a trade school (instead of a University), etc and then holding rallies to sell his trump-branded shit.

He's going to find more ways to monetize his brand. They'll be hateful, racist, redneck products, but they'll sell.

Maybe they'll rename the KKK to the Trump and he'll be their grand-wizard. Oh wait, that's already happened!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:15 AM

27. And fittingly ...

No one whom he wants to be accepted/respected/admired by will go anywhere near him and the only people who will give him the time of day are the "losers" he despises, mocks and looks down on.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #27)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:22 AM

29. +1000

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:22 AM

30. Schitt's Creek.

That’s all.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:32 AM

34. I think prison is still possible

SDNY has been waiting in the wings a LONG time, just waiting to pounce when he is out of the WH. They have had time to strengthen their case(s) and ready themselves. He committed the crimes, he cannot escape the time. I think they might actually get him.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:34 AM

35. I hope they strip his security clearances the minute he walks out the door. nt

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:50 AM

37. Mostly interested in a deterrent

What happens to him, his criminal family members and his other helpers will be important in establishing a deterrent to a smarter, more organized autocrat trying again - and succeeding.

The penalties, punishments, fines and public scorn meted out need to be commensurate with the crimes (some of the worst in modern history) and significant enough to stop a future would be dictator from trying again.

Education will be important too. We need to reteach the signs of developing fascism. They were taught to my age cohort. We vowed "never again" but this didn't seem to stick with an alarming number of "seniors".

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:55 AM

39. He has a crony--Putin.I expect him to move to Moscow

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 10:58 AM

40. Hope he goes to prison for tax fraud like Al Capone did. nt

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:08 AM

42. I would wager 50/50 he actually gets

locked up. Maybe as short as a month or a week but as in martha stewart some ambitious jurisdiction will push hard to make an unprecedented example and put an ex President in jail/prison.

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Response to Roc2020 (Reply #42)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:21 AM

46. I would trade in all my birthday and Christmas wishes for the next

Few years if I could see that happen.

Maybe even a decade’s worth!!

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 11:31 AM

47. I'll go along with that, except that I still hope for the things at the top of your post to happen.

I want it to be worse...and worse again. I don't know tax law in the USS very well, but in Canada, you cannot bankrupt your way out of certain classes of debt. Hopefully, there is a mountain of debts like that that no reasonable amount of "donations" could satisfy.

And one last thing. Putin. I HOPE what he fears isn't that Putin will abandon him when he can no longer be a "useful idiot" and becomes merely an idiot. What I long for is for Putin to finally drop the hammer and make public what he's had on him this whole time.

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Response to Cyrano (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:04 PM

53. Amen.

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