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Ed Norton 🧵: I'm no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught

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Edward Norton
@EdwardNorton
I’m no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught me a lot & I’ve also sat a fair amount of poker w serious players & l’ll say this: I do not think Trump is trying to ‘make his base happy’ or ‘laying the groundwork for his own network’...

..or that ‘chaos is what he loves’. The core of it is that he knows he’s in deep, multi-dimensional legal jeopardy & this defines his every action. We’re seeing 1) a tactical delay of the transition to buy time for coverup & evidence suppression 2) above all, a desperate endgame

Edward Norton
@EdwardNorton
...which is to create enough chaos & anxiety about peaceful transfer of power, & fear of irreparable damage to the system, that he can cut a Nixon-style deal in exchange for finally conceding. But he doesn’t have the cards. His bluff after ‘the flop’ has been called in court...

His ‘turn card’ bluff will be an escalation & his ‘River card’ bluff could be really ugly. But they have to be called. We cannot let this mobster bully the USA into a deal to save his ass by threatening our democracy. THAT is his play. But he’s got junk in his hand. So call him.

Edward Norton
@EdwardNorton
I will allow that he’s also a whiny, sulky, petulant, Grinchy, vindictive little 10-ply-super-soft bitch who no doubt is just throwing a wicked pout fest & trying to give a tiny-hand middle finger to the whole country for pure spite, without a single thought for the dead & dying

But his contemptible, treasonous, seditious assault on the stability of our political compact isn’t about 2024, personal enrichment or anything else other than trying to use chaos & threat to the foundation of the system as leverage to trade for a safe exit. Call. His. Bluff.

Edward Norton
@EdwardNorton
Faith in the strength of our sacred institutions & founding principles is severely stretched...but they will hold. They will. He’s leaving, gracelessly & in infamy. But if we trade for it, give him some brokered settlement, we’ll be vulnerable to his return. We can’t flinch.

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Ed Norton 🧵: I'm no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught (Original post)	soothsayer	Nov 20	OP
One of my favorite actors	underpants	Nov 20	#1
Same	obamanut2012	Nov 20	#2
That may be his own choice?	KPN	Nov 20	#20
Here's Ed Norton's IMDB BIO.. says he's an Activist, too..	Cha	Nov 20	#84
He's made a lot of money as an angel investor/VC type of guy.	Lucky Luciano	Nov 20	#94
His mom taught at my rival high school and lots of my friends that had her, knew him.	PunkinPi	Nov 20	#54
+1. I wonder if Trump will threaten to start a war, that Biden has to handle, for such consessions.	TheBlackAdder	Nov 20	#55
he is fantastic	Skittles	Nov 20	#90
Thank you for posting this! Norton's theory makes perfect sense in light of the recent news story	LaMouffette	Nov 20	#3
Yes	PatSeg	Nov 20	#19
THIS	malaise	Nov 20	#40
I never used to use that word "evil"	PatSeg	Nov 20	#57
Same here	malaise	Nov 20	#58
Yes. It IS. And it's well-deserved and definitely well-earned.	calimary	Nov 20	#61
Yeah, Trump is such an overachiever	PatSeg	Nov 20	#66
The late psychologist M. Scott Peck, an expert on narcissism...	Grasswire2	Nov 20	#73
That helps somewhat	PatSeg	Nov 20	#77
His book on Narcissistic Personality Disorder: PEOPLE OF THE LIE	Grasswire2	Nov 20	#78
I think a very close association	PatSeg	Nov 20	#80
Funny you should say that.	IsItJustMe	Nov 20	#92
Oh, same here	PatSeg	Nov 21	#98
I have experienced such people in my life.	IsItJustMe	Nov 21	#99
I did as well	PatSeg	Nov 21	#100
Sound like perhaps you are coming to the realization that I have come to in these past few years	IsItJustMe	Nov 22	#101
Yes, so many of those tired old clichs	PatSeg	Nov 22	#102
We are living in a world of programming, this is for sure and it is extremely hard to be truly open	IsItJustMe	Nov 22	#103
Oh yeah, that works for our discussion	PatSeg	Nov 22	#104
The rethugs are neither weak nor vulnerable. They are crooks.	Texin	Nov 20	#65
They may be crooks	PatSeg	Nov 20	#68
Small loan: your problem. Big loan: bank's problem. How many mortgages foreclosed to pay tRump?	Bernardo de La Paz	Nov 20	#24
'Traitor Trump' - I like it.	GoneOffShore	Nov 20	#33
Rhyme scheme...	Whatthe_Firetruck	Nov 20	#46
Hey, it's the best I could do at the time.	GoneOffShore	Nov 20	#71
Can we have our own bonfire night?	Blue_playwright	Nov 20	#52
nicely said ....	nebby70	Nov 20	#4
Absolutely	kirkuchiyo	Nov 20	#13
I couldn't agree more. He's toast and he knows it. nt	Phoenix61	Nov 20	#5
Excellent observation & insight	vlyons	Nov 20	#6
No doubt much is true, but not that he's not desperately trying	Hortensis	Nov 20	#7
True. Without his base he'd be out of cards.	groundloop	Nov 20	#14
Beautifully succinct. :)	Hortensis	Nov 20	#17
Very bright observations.	Baitball Blogger	Nov 20	#8
Well said, Mr. Norton!	North Shore Chicago	Nov 20	#9
Also	leighbythesea2	Nov 20	#89
I wish I could kick a thread.	IsItJustMe	Nov 20	#93
Yep . .	Iliyah	Nov 20	#10
Absolutely no deals with Trump.	NCDem47	Nov 20	#11
No deals, absolutely none.	wnylib	Nov 20	#44
This	Ferrets are Cool	Nov 20	#12
The only deal I'm ok with	James48	Nov 20	#15
Yes. Call his bluff.	KPN	Nov 20	#26
Works for me.	wnylib	Nov 20	#45
Spot on analysis	BSdetect	Nov 20	#16
Just watched The Score again the other day	greenjar_01	Nov 20	#18
Interesting	UCmeNdc	Nov 20	#21
Absofuckinglutely! Call. His. Bluff.	ananda	Nov 20	#22
Exactement!	Mme. Defarge	Nov 20	#23
Yes he is hoping for a deal	Roc2020	Nov 20	#25
Well said,.Ed!	LuvNewcastle	Nov 20	#27
Based on Biden's words yesterday, I think he	KPN	Nov 20	#28
Is Trump really playing a masterful game of poker here?	Shermann	Nov 20	#29
He never had the money to even see the flop, let alone win the hand.	PatrickforO	Nov 20	#30
I feel this is spot on and what many of us here have felt	KewlKat	Nov 20	#31
Dead center shot. He called it tRump is stalling to get a deal and at least destroy the evidence.	usaf-vet	Nov 20	#32
100% Trump's buying time to destroy the evidence	stuffmatters	Nov 20	#91
Right on!	Sprite	Nov 20	#34
Who would have the authority to make such a deal with Trump?	Lonestarblue	Nov 20	#35
I think your post sounds very plausible	wnylib	Nov 20	#82
Wow what a statement.	blueinredohio	Nov 20	#36
this	llashram	Nov 20	#37
as i have been saying and posting for years, the orange asshole is a psychopath out to save his own	Javaman	Nov 20	#38
OUCH!! Fantastic!	mtnsnake	Nov 20	#39
Indeed..."We can't flinch"	democrank	Nov 20	#41
"a tactical delay of transition to buy time for coverup & evidence suppression"	Merlot	Nov 20	#59
I agree. He's trying to force a deal	nuxvomica	Nov 20	#42
Ed Norton watches Letterkenny...	SidDithers	Nov 20	#43
Hear, hear!	smirkymonkey	Nov 20	#47
Pretty good analogy	keithbvadu2	Nov 20	#48
Kick	KewlKat	Nov 20	#49
John Fugelsang said exactly this	MontanaMama	Nov 20	#50
WOW! Great analogy. Appreciate your 'take' on the situation.	liberalla	Nov 20	#51
Brilliant! nt	dsharp88	Nov 20	#53
+ 1,000,000	Duppers	Nov 20	#56
Nailed it!	pandr32	Nov 20	#60
I know it's not popular here, but I wish somebody could broker an exit for him	Texin	Nov 20	#62
For the sake of democracy, he must be punished	soothsayer	Nov 20	#64
Yes it worked so well when we gave a similar guy Austria	grantcart	Nov 20	#69
+1000000	crickets	Nov 20	#81
A TOTAL keeper!	calimary	Nov 20	#63
America doesn't negotiate with terrorists	aquamarina	Nov 20	#67
Which is exactly how he successfully negotiated his bankruptcies	grantcart	Nov 20	#70
Excellent analysis that dovetails with the traitor's allegiance	Enoki33	Nov 20	#72
Yep.	birdographer	Nov 20	#74
No Deal!	Marcuse	Nov 20	#75
When he starts with "I'm no political pundit..."	BobTheSubgenius	Nov 20	#76
I've got a deal for Trump:	LudwigPastorius	Nov 20	#79
Wow Ed Norton! TY! Rt!	Cha	Nov 20	#83
HRB	HotRod Deluxe	Nov 20	#85
So bottom line is -dont give him any deals to give up WH?	Laura PourMeADrink	Nov 20	#86
Yep	soothsayer	Nov 20	#87
BUTBUTBUT the moron WON on TUESDAY! he saw it on teevee.	pansypoo53219	Nov 20	#88
I'm with Ed Norton. No deals.	BusyBeingBest	Nov 20	#95
Absolutely fantastic!	Dark n Stormy Knight	Nov 20	#96
Happy to be the 301st rec! eom	LittleGirl	Nov 21	#97

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Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:53 AM

underpants (158,915 posts)

Ed Norton 🧵: I'm no political pundit but I grew up w a dad who was a federal prosecutor & he taught

1. One of my favorite actors

2. Same

20. That may be his own choice?

84. Here's Ed Norton's IMDB BIO.. says he's an Activist, too..

94. He's made a lot of money as an angel investor/VC type of guy.

54. His mom taught at my rival high school and lots of my friends that had her, knew him.

55. +1. I wonder if Trump will threaten to start a war, that Biden has to handle, for such consessions.

90. he is fantastic

3. Thank you for posting this! Norton's theory makes perfect sense in light of the recent news story

19. Yes

40. THIS

57. I never used to use that word "evil"

58. Same here

61. Yes. It IS. And it's well-deserved and definitely well-earned.

66. Yeah, Trump is such an overachiever

73. The late psychologist M. Scott Peck, an expert on narcissism...

77. That helps somewhat

78. His book on Narcissistic Personality Disorder: PEOPLE OF THE LIE

80. I think a very close association

92. Funny you should say that.

98. Oh, same here

99. I have experienced such people in my life.

100. I did as well

101. Sound like perhaps you are coming to the realization that I have come to in these past few years

102. Yes, so many of those tired old clichs

103. We are living in a world of programming, this is for sure and it is extremely hard to be truly open

104. Oh yeah, that works for our discussion

65. The rethugs are neither weak nor vulnerable. They are crooks.

68. They may be crooks

24. Small loan: your problem. Big loan: bank's problem. How many mortgages foreclosed to pay tRump?

33. 'Traitor Trump' - I like it.

46. Rhyme scheme...

71. Hey, it's the best I could do at the time.

52. Can we have our own bonfire night?

4. nicely said ....

13. Absolutely

5. I couldn't agree more. He's toast and he knows it. nt

6. Excellent observation & insight

7. No doubt much is true, but not that he's not desperately trying

14. True. Without his base he'd be out of cards.

17. Beautifully succinct. :)

8. Very bright observations.

9. Well said, Mr. Norton!

89. Also

93. I wish I could kick a thread.

10. Yep . .

11. Absolutely no deals with Trump.

44. No deals, absolutely none.

12. This

15. The only deal I'm ok with

26. Yes. Call his bluff.

45. Works for me.

16. Spot on analysis

18. Just watched The Score again the other day

21. Interesting

22. Absofuckinglutely! Call. His. Bluff.

23. Exactement!

25. Yes he is hoping for a deal

27. Well said,.Ed!

28. Based on Biden's words yesterday, I think he

29. Is Trump really playing a masterful game of poker here?

30. He never had the money to even see the flop, let alone win the hand.

31. I feel this is spot on and what many of us here have felt

32. Dead center shot. He called it tRump is stalling to get a deal and at least destroy the evidence.

91. 100% Trump's buying time to destroy the evidence

34. Right on!

35. Who would have the authority to make such a deal with Trump?

82. I think your post sounds very plausible

36. Wow what a statement.

37. this

38. as i have been saying and posting for years, the orange asshole is a psychopath out to save his own

39. OUCH!! Fantastic!

41. Indeed..."We can't flinch"

59. "a tactical delay of transition to buy time for coverup & evidence suppression"

42. I agree. He's trying to force a deal

43. Ed Norton watches Letterkenny...

47. Hear, hear!

48. Pretty good analogy

49. Kick