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Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:05 PM

Key to Understanding Trump's Appeal to His Base

I have recommended this book several times on DU. I want to recommend it again before Trump gets lost in the history that Americans seem incapable of learning lessons from.

Bandits by Eric Hobsbawm

This book explains why predominantly rural, under educated, poor people would support Trump not in spite of his crimes but because of his crimes. They see the law and the current government as inherently unfair to them and therefore they approve of breaking the law in order to "even the playing field."

https://www.amazon.com/Bandits-Eric-Hobsbawm/dp/1565846192 or look for it in your library for free

If we want to never ever see a Trump elected president in this country again, we need to do away with systemic inequality.

Of course, if you are one of those who wants a fascist coup (government that serves a tiny portion of the wealthiest Americans) you will actively support anything that increases inequality, so that you can then tell those you have oppressed "Hey, it is those (blanks) who are keeping you down through criminal means and it takes a criminal to fight a criminal".

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Reply Key to Understanding Trump's Appeal to His Base (Original post)
McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 OP
ret5hd Nov 2020 #1
Skittles Nov 2020 #5
McCamy Taylor Nov 2020 #6
Mister Ed Nov 2020 #2
DanieRains Nov 2020 #3
Mike 03 Nov 2020 #4
smirkymonkey Nov 2020 #7

Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:11 PM

1. So why didn't Blacks support trump?

I think the theory, at least as described here, is incomplete.

I still think a lot of trumps support is just as it appears: racism.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:31 PM

5. CORRECT

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 20, 2020, 10:49 PM

6. Racism is a tool of capitalists to increase profits

Racism, nationalism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia--all are used to drive down wages and keep workers from voting for their own self interest by creating the illusion that there are more than two clubs in the world, i.e the rich and everyone else. These are all there is. Anytime someone divides the world up in some other way, i.e Black versus White or men versus women they are falling for the capitalists' favorite divide and conquer money making strategy.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:13 PM

2. This is the phenomenon that made 1930's gangsters like Bonnie & Clyde into folk heroes. n/t

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:19 PM

3. Trump Supports The Same Billionaires

They are just too stupid to see it.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:31 PM

4. I kind of get where this is going.

Reading the book description at Amazon, I'm remembering that Elton John song, The Ballad of Danny Bailey and this theory is making some sense. There is a certain hagiography that evolves around the "bad guys." To wit, the insane popularity of De Palma's remake of Scarface.

I still think there's a lot more going on, especially after reading Unholy by Sarah Posner and The Power Worshippers by Katherine Stewart, and The Cult of Trump by Steven Hassan and Dangerous Charisma by Dr. Jerrold Post.

I just think we can't ignore the appeal of strongmen like Putin, Duterte, Bolsonaro, etc... I see it has having to do with their perceived power, not necessarily their "badness," but the two are not unrelated because of their enemies.

Autocrats have this ability to absolve people who believe deep down they are failures of guilt, introspection, self-blame and personal responsibility by conditioning them to direct or project their self-loathing at "others" (immigrants, Jews, people of color, religious minorities). And the followers vicariously share the leader's perceived power.

But there is a place for what you're saying in a fully evolved theory of Trump's appeal, especially when you are talking about the Alt Right, the racists and people who feel beaten down by life; not so much with the Christian Nationalists.

I appreciate the book recommendation. May give it a look.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 20, 2020, 11:23 PM

7. +1000

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