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Freelancer Nov 19 OP
raging moderate Nov 19 #1
rainin Nov 19 #2
blm Nov 19 #5
blm Nov 19 #3
Dem2 Nov 19 #4
Shermann Nov 19 #9
Aristus Nov 19 #6
Freelancer Nov 19 #17
Lady Freedom Returns Nov 20 #56
treestar Nov 20 #57
dawg day Nov 19 #7
Thekaspervote Nov 19 #15
Freelancer Nov 19 #21
dawg day Nov 19 #26
Freelancer Nov 19 #27
dawg day Nov 19 #30
betsuni Nov 19 #32
dawg day Nov 19 #33
betsuni Nov 20 #55
spicysista Nov 19 #8
Turin_C3PO Nov 19 #10
Ferrets are Cool Nov 19 #11
Freelancer Nov 19 #22
Paladin Nov 19 #12
Thekaspervote Nov 19 #14
Freelancer Nov 19 #18
redstatebluegirl Nov 19 #13
dawg Nov 19 #16
Freelancer Nov 19 #20
Hotler Nov 19 #25
Hekate Nov 19 #19
PatSeg Nov 19 #23
FakeNoose Nov 19 #24
BannonsLiver Nov 19 #28
ProfessorGAC Nov 19 #38
BannonsLiver Nov 19 #39
mtnsnake Nov 19 #29
dawg day Nov 19 #31
Freelancer Nov 19 #34
dawg day Nov 19 #35
diva77 Nov 19 #36
ismnotwasm Nov 19 #37
LanternWaste Nov 19 #40
nuxvomica Nov 19 #41
Freelancer Nov 19 #43
nuxvomica Nov 19 #45
Freelancer Nov 19 #46
nuxvomica Nov 19 #47
Freelancer Nov 19 #49
meadowlander Nov 19 #42
Freelancer Nov 19 #44
meadowlander Nov 19 #50
treestar Nov 20 #58
Demsrule86 Nov 20 #54
mopinko Nov 19 #48
IsItJustMe Nov 20 #51
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betsuni Nov 20 #53

Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:12 AM

1. Very true!

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:22 AM

2. OMG this is so true! I would say, though, that empathy is hard. If you don't care, you don't hurt

so much when others are suffering. It IS easier to be Republican from my experience. My family seems so certain, all the time. I would extend that to their faith, which I don't share (also, since college). They know they're going to heaven and that gives them certainty. For me, when you die, you're just dead. You're dirt. Nothing to look forward to there. They're happy. I'm feeling the weight of climate change, our kids' futures, the children and families on our border, on and on and on. It all hurts.

I know I'm not speaking to the nit-picking that goes on among Democrats, and that was your point. But, I will mention that there are joyous moments we have that they don't have. When our former leaders go out in public, the public cheers! Republicans can't even go out to dinner. And trump not be welcome anywhere in the civilized world again. I'd rather be on the good side no matter how hard it seems at times.

And, to your point, we could all learn to be a little kinder to and more accepting of one another.

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Response to rainin (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:39 AM

5. ✔️

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:38 AM

3. You can get the physical experience of 'all hands on deck'

volunteering at Dem party headquarters in your county, and not just presidential election years.

I think it’s more social media where the sniping exists, and, of course, the primary battles.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:38 AM

4. Bummer is a weird word to use since I was born a Democrat

It's just who I am, I could never relate to the other side like you have.

I do have to agree about the walking on glass/every word is being examined part. That's a bit exhausting and I almost left DU last week because of it. Luckily admin overturned an unfair post hide which made me feel a little bit more welcome here. I'm still a little shocked at how comfortable people are to toss their fellow compatriots under the bus, however.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:48 AM

9. Yeah that is one advantage the right has

The Republican ID Card is a Get Out of Jail free card for most bad behaviors except disloyalty to the party.

There has to be a happy medium there. Bill Maher would also argue that the self-policing is too strict on the left. But you can't claim the moral high ground without having some reasonably high bar in place.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:41 AM

6. That's the appeal of Republican-style autocracy:

Enjoyability. Camaraderie. The loosening of the burden that comes with self-determination. Giving up decision-making to someone else. Not having to think problems through.

You can have it.

I'll take what we Democrats are striving for, because it's worth all the hardships you mentioned in your OP.

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Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:36 PM

56. Got a +1 on that from me!

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Response to Aristus (Reply #6)

Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:04 PM

57. It has nothing to do with autocracy

It's got to do with learning how to work together to get as much as we can, and accepting we each individually can't get everything we want. We live with other people in the world. Nobody would be making the decision about everything that we had to follow. But giving a little because one person alone cannot do anything at all. You need a party to get together with to win and let those elected do what they can without constant carping if they fail you on one appointment or issue.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:42 AM

7. That's not at all my experience.

My experience is that Democrats are, in general, kind and accepting, even enthusiastic. They see me not as just a potential "vote," but as a fellow citizen deserving of compassion and help if needed, and also capable of helping out. They are often creative and funny in our discussions and interactions.

In contrast, my GOP acquaintances are angry at everyone who isn't them, which is, after all, more than half the nation, and given to extreme and wrong beliefs (my sil just said, 'Why should I work so hard just to have the nation give money to lazy immigrants', this while she sat at her poolside outside her mansion doing nothing while a group of spanish-speaking Mexicans replaced her roof in a very hot sun... btw, she doesn't work at all, and her banker husband's $ were what paid for the roofers), which they refuse to change when evidence is presented. They are not creative and funny, rather relentless in their determination to echo what Tucker Carlson lied about last night.

Anyway, if necessary, let me perhaps be the first Democrat to welcome you unreservedly and say, "Big love to you... let's walk with optimism, hope, and (of course) rational skepticism into 2021."

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Response to dawg day (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:20 AM

15. Agree.. all I see is angry outraged Repugs doing anything to win..lie cheat steal

No thx

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Response to Freelancer (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 11:33 AM

26. Really, if we need advanced training in diplomacy and

Deprogramming so that they don't running weeping back to Trump, well, I don't think we're the problem.

My aunt this week... "I despise Trump. I think Biden is a good man. But.... you know, socialism..."

"But Biden isn't a socialist. Why do you think that?"
"Trump says that."

"But you know Trump lies."

"I just don't know anything about Biden."
"He was just Vice president for 8 years."

"He is just another politician."

"But he was vp for 8 years and you know nothing really terrible happened."

"But I could never vote for a Democrat. My dad hated FDR."

"Do you think your dad would have liked Trump?"

"No, but I just know he would be so mad at me if I voted for a Democrat."
"When did grandpa die?"
"1967."

ACTUAL CONVERSATION.

Tell me how I could have brought her over... it was all very baffling.

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Response to Freelancer (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 02:55 PM

30. I like that-- "Repub whispering"

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Response to dawg day (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 03:25 PM

32. Same as my mother!

Nothing about her was Republican, but Daddy was, so that's how she voted her whole life. Farmers had a problem with FDR, or something. And my grandfather died in either 1967 or 1968.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 03:45 PM

33. My aunt is really weird-- all for public education, healthcare for all---

AND she is very pro-choice.
But she votes for the GOP everytime. I've given up doing much more than suggesting that she doesn't actually have to vote for president if she really doesn't like the GOP candidate.

Didn't work this time. She got very hurt even though I was as polite as I could be.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 20, 2020, 07:03 AM

55. It is weird.

I'm sort of relieved my mother's not around anymore because she'd be a Trumper. That would be really hard to deal with. I thought it was bad when she said Dick Cheney was a good Christian man, but Trump? Too much.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:48 AM

8. Maintaining harmony in an environment that's more homogenous...

Well, I guess that would be easier. There will be no "callouts" with folks who all tend to look similar and believe the same things. Being from a similar background or cloaked in whiteness can help focus your interests in ways more diverse groups have to work towards.
Like America, the Democratic party is filled with people with all sorts of backgrounds. This diversity of experience lends to the richness of our party just as it does to the country as a whole.
Does this mean you will have more conflict? Yes, it absolutely does. It also means there will be growth and a better chance of attaining the stated goals and principles for which we all supposedly stand....for everyone.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:52 AM

10. Maybe that's true

on social media but I haven't had that experience at all with Democrats in real life. I always volunteer at the Democratic office here in town and we all get along well. I'm sorry you've had a different experience.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:53 AM

11. It is dispiriting and depressing at times

but it is who I am. Honestly, I would like the Democratic Party to be more ruthless. Going "high" just doesn't work any longer when you are dealing with criminals posing as politicians.

When repugs LIE about everything in order to get elected, it is hard for us. When they gerrymander districts to favor repugs, it is hard for us. When we are fighting fascists AND the MSM, it is hard for us.

Having said all that, the ONLY thing that will "de-politicize" me will be if NO ONE gets punished for committing crimes during the last 4 years. If the rich and powerful of this administration are ABOVE the LAW, I don't know that I can do this anymore. Sad, and maybe wrong, but true.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 09:54 AM

12. Spend some time examining why it seems so easy and fun to be a Republican.

Helpful hint: If you're a fan of representative democracy, you're not going to like the answer.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:17 AM

14. This! True democracy is an examination of what's wrong.never easy but no good thing is

Also to the OP.. you don’t think Dems have fun? Look at the joy in the streets nationwide following our win.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:10 AM

13. True

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:23 AM

16. It's because they are all about the party and we are all about the ideas.

They have pep rallies while we have debates.

Doing the right thing isn't supposed to be easy.

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Response to dawg (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:58 AM

25. "they are all about the party", I disagree.

It's all hate towards democrats and liberals 24/7 with the repugs. Their rally cry, "The only good democrat is a dead democrat.".

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:34 AM

19. KnR. Thanks for the thoughtful comment...

Watch out for incoming, though.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:50 AM

23. That was very well said

I can see why being a Democrat can often be challenging, but it is also the party that is more inclined to embrace individuality and is open to different opinions. Perhaps "Democrats pick each other apart way too much" is a process that helps us clarify certain issues. It can be exhausting at times though, especially during primary season.

Life is complex. Republicans tend to oversimplify it, whereas Democrats are more likely to face the complexities head on and work toward solutions. This is one of the many reasons we are drawn to the Democratic party, it offers so many endless possibilities. Republicans offer the same old tired, but safe formula with no real option to stray from the path. Its the price you pay to be part of the tribe.

I agree that we do need "to ease up on each other a little bit". After all we are the party of tolerance and diversity.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 10:58 AM

24. I so agree with you

... most of the time. Like you, I grew up in the Midwest also. My family were mostly Republicans, back when it was OK because, Ike. With Nixon and the Vietnam War (and Watergate) I turned away from the Republican Party but I remained independent for way too many years.

I always voted for and with Dems, ever since my first voting experience in 1972. But I refused to join the Democratic Party because of a lot of these things you have outlined in your OP. Yes I'm a member of the Democratic Party now, since 2008 it became obvious to me that there would never be a Republican that I would ever vote for or support. No reason to maintain the ruse of "independence" any more.

But why do they have to make it so hard to be a Democrat sometimes?


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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 01:08 PM

28. Sometimes we lose the plot

Like when there is a 160 response thread where it’s dictated to us what we’re allowed to call a monster like Lindsey Graham. People being upbraided by other posters for calling Trump fat or senile. Those kinds of faults, and the inability to play rough, are why we lose more often than we should. Nice guys finish last most of the time.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #28)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:35 PM

38. "The Inability To Play Rough"

I couldn't agree more! It's both an inability & a resistance against even trying.

We also need work on selling ideas to the masses.
Much better ideas, with plans, get beat by slogan based dumb ideas.
The root of "voting against their own interests" problem is the result of poor sales strategies!

Think about it; why would anybody in middle america really have an issue with ACA? But, they sold their lies, & we couldn't sell a perfectly good idea, and improvement to the situation.

Dems need to up the salesmanship.

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #38)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:38 PM

39. Well said.

I like your framing around salesmanship a lot.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 01:42 PM

29. K&R for one of the best posts I've read here in a long time.

What you're saying is true enough out there in the real world, but I think it's much much worse when you get involved on posting boards and from what I hear about facebook. There is so much nitpicking going on that it's like walking on eggshells. All you have to do is say Democrat instead of Democratic, when it should've been the latter, and there is always someone trolling the boards who is just waiting to pounce on you for the most trivial of all details.

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Response to mtnsnake (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 03:04 PM

31. I came out of the science-fiction community and learned to ignore

There were people there who would howl and yell if you said, "Sci-fi."
(You were only allowed by them to say "sf," see.)

I learned a few rules-- I mean, okay, big deal, sf-- and ignored anyone I thought was obnoxious and picky. It's really only a smallish percentage of rather unhappy people who want to feel like they're smarter than everyone else-- they're loud and annoying, but ignorable.

I do the same with the picky "exclusivists" in every other organization, including the Democrats. What's important is... do I love science fiction and want to talk about it with others? Do I support the policies of this party?

Sure.

and I know very well -- surrounded by Republicans in my area- that not only are many Republicans nastier and potentially violent (or eager to call for violence), I don't support their policies. So I've gotten good at ignoring anyone who I don't respect. Saves time. This isn't middle school. They're not going to refuse to vote for me for class treasurer.

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Response to Freelancer (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:10 PM

35. LOL... I should have said "class clown"

.. because that's more how I saw myself!

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:18 PM

36. Republicans are about destroying & deregulating in order to extract wealth and power for the few.

Dems are for creating for the common good - which requires consideration of the infinite complexities in order to maximize the benefit.

One party's message is easy to convey: Destroy. It takes 1 wrecking ball to destroy.
One party's message is more complex. It takes a lot of decision making and coalition building to successfully create.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:27 PM

37. Fuck that

I’ll take a enthusiastic to bitter, exchange of Democrats ideas even at the height of 2016 over 5 minutes of fucked up Republicans.

I don’t know where you are, but Imma die hard Hillary fan, as well as part of the Khive in Seattle, represented by Democratic Pramila Jayapal. Even when she’s annoyed me, and trust me she has, I knew she was fighting for the right side.

I’m sorry you feel “sorry” you “touched” the politics of the Democratic Party, but damn. Lighten up.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #37)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:43 PM

40. +1000!

Seems as though a lot of people desire salad-bar of politics, taking to our tables only that which we desire while arguing the rest of it should be left behind.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 05:48 PM

41. I often recall Kurt Bardella's take on all this

I’ll tell you, being a Democrat is a heck of a lot more emotionally exhausting than being a Republican was, because I care about a lot more things than I used to. There must be some wisdom in the old saying that “ignorance is bliss.” It’s funny, because I remember as a Republican, we would often mock “bleeding-heart liberals” who are always “caring” so much. I think to myself now, what the hell is wrong with these Republicans who don’t seem to care about anything at all?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2018/12/16/first-year-democrat-found-my-voice-embraced-my-identity-column/2301857002/

He also once said that Republicans don't discuss issues while Democrats are constantly debating them with other Democrats, that it's exhausting but he's nonetheless happier for it.

Of course he is. I believe We don't feel our real power as human beings unless we are honest and searching for the truth, unless we are caring for others, especially the innocent and the powerless. There is a bliss in ignorance, I suppose, but once you've tasted the bliss of heroism you can't find any satisfaction in the inferior substitute.

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Thu Nov 19, 2020, 07:38 PM

45. So now there exists no oppression or cause for outrage?

I see an ongoing battle, often against complacency within the party itself, but certainly against the oppression of others. We can agree on the broader issues and still engage in a Darwinian struggle of ideas and strategies, and no one gets mortally wounded. We end the day tired but it's the good kind of tired. You want to see a contentious lot, check out the 19th-century abolitionists. They were mostly Republicans. Look at their party now.

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Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:05 PM

47. It still is

I can't disagree on that. But people are always going to extrapolate from there in different directions. it comes with the territory.

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Thu Nov 19, 2020, 06:06 PM

42. People don't like being called out on their bullshit, especially not publicly.

But I don't think the solution to that is to stop challenging ideas.

I do think that we need to give each other the benefit of the doubt sometimes instead of jumping right to "you're a racist and you need to go away forever!"

I once had someone accuse me of being a racist because I asked the person sitting next to me, who randomly happened to be Chinese, if she knew if there were any good dim sum restaurants in the area. I wasn't asking her because she was Asian. I was asking her because the conversation happened to be about dim sum, I like it, and she was in my field of vision at the time.

I can see how having to deal with that all day is exhausting, especially if you're used to living in a pretty homogenous culture where you don't usually have to worry about it. But it's also not OK to ask women, LGBTQ+ people and minorities to keep quiet in the name of "Democrat Privilege". If something is wrong, it should be questioned and called out regardless of who is saying it.

I just think there's a way to do it that doesn't assume you know everything about the other persons' intentions or that paints them as a bad person because they said or did one thing that was ignorant or insensitive - especially if it was thirty years ago and they were under 25 or so (i.e. pre-full brain development).

We need to bring back the Socratic method instead of the wagging finger of political correctness. Ask people what they meant and then show them why you don't agree with it using logic and gentle peer pressure.

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Thu Nov 19, 2020, 11:56 PM

50. Then what did you mean by:

"it's exhausting, like stepping along a path of broken glass. It's like every word is being examined from every conceivable angle for some way to be suspect or discounted... It's my observation that Democrats pick each other apart WAAY too much. That's one thing the Republicans have going for them... There's no need to watch your step... Democrats need to stop looking for some angle to view each other as a potential "bad guy" and start extending an envelope of "Democrat Privilege" in a serious way."

In my experience, this is what people say when they have been called out for being racist, sexist, homophobic, etc. "Why should I have to watch what I say around people? Liberals are too thin-skinned! We're both on the same side, why don't I get a pass on everything I say" as code for "Why should I have to think about what I say before I say it and how it will impact other people? Oh, the humanity!"

Apologies if this isn't what you meant. Can you give an example of what you were referring to? Because it sounds like you're complaining about other people not thinking exactly the way you do and immediately understanding and agreeing with everything you say. Which I would respectfully suggest is not a reasonable expectation.

Also, why post on a discussion board if you hate, you know, discussing things? I was actually agreeing with you if you'd bothered to read more of my post than the first sentence.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #50)

Fri Nov 20, 2020, 08:24 PM

58. We do need thicker skins

Instead of working against the groups. If they all pull together in the end, it is fine to discuss. But there's always the threat of taking their ball and going home.

And calling people out on things is not really helping to pull together. Just have a thicker skin. I'm a racist for not thinking the police are always wrong in any encounter. I'm a woman, I don't have to call out others as sexist in order to prove my oppression is the greatest. Some women may be like that, but I don't see the point. There's too much of that. Too much of "my victimhood is bigger than yours and you should be as sensitive to it as I am rather than considering your own interests." The Republicans are worse racists and sexists, so why go calling out liberals on it? It's like they are afraid to confront the real racists, the really bad ones, the Republican ones - I guess us Democratic racists are easier to call out as we won't fight back? But in the end, people work with you more enthusiastically when you aren't always picking at them.

We should be happy we got the Presidency again, and support it , but no, already carping about this or that appointment or this is that action, just like Obama got. Because if Biden doesn't do all I want or all my particular victimhood group supposedly wants (and I get to speak for all of them) then we should undermine him - all so illogical, as all it does it help the Republicans. People have to learn to work together as Democrats at least. We see plenty of how we just can't work with Republicans.

How we are going to get Congress in 2022 if there's so much negativity out there? And I remember "If Obama increases the troops in Afghanistan (as he'd said he would) he's lost my vote." So stupid. Or that Obama is a POS car salesman because the ACA isn't perfect (or even that they'd failed to use it properly). How did that help? It didn't. It was a big fucking deal to get that much in this country. The Republicans do all they can to damage it, and they might not have gotten away with that if we had just SUPPORTED Obama in getting it.

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Response to meadowlander (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 20, 2020, 06:57 AM

54. We need to win elections period.

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Response to Freelancer (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2020, 08:19 PM

48. it can suck.

i've only run for office twice-
once, in '75, i ran to be the 1st student trustee on the board of my community college. i won.

2nd time- after being appointed and then re-elected 'by acclimation' twice, to my ward dem party.
we never had more candidates than seats, so there was no point in balloting.
when we finally had more candidates than seats, guess who got voted off the island? yup. me.
because i support charter schools. we have one of the best schools in the country that is a charter. and an old catholic hs that had to close it's doors had just been taken over and became a spanish language school.

it just happened that the room was stacked w teachers. the ag was the guest speaker, and she had pissed off the teachers. most of them were ppl we never saw.
it's not like i made a speech. i just chatted up one of the nuns from the old school, a long time active member. i ended up arguing w one of them, batting back the usual talking points.
i had 5 kids, crazy geniuses, that went through every part of the system here, w mostly disastrous results.
then he asked me- who told you your kids were gifted? i lost my cool. i wanted to punch him, but i just walked away, rather loudly saying- i'm done here.

so, yeah. never doing that again.

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Fri Nov 20, 2020, 12:53 AM

51. I have a different perspective on it than you do

For me, its not so much about party as it is about doing the right thing. I want to do the right thing, not because I am afraid to burn in hell, but because deep down within me, I know, and it feels good.

Someone once said, "The unexamined life is not worth living". To me it is quit obvious which party more reflects that idea. If I have to look at myself honestly, or have others point out my shortfalls at times, I am willing to live with that.
And the bottom line is, that whenever you open your mouth or write an opinion, you have a 50/50 change that people will either agree with you or not. The price of having an opinion.

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Fri Nov 20, 2020, 01:17 AM

52. Ease up and take the children fishing.

‘Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.’

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Fri Nov 20, 2020, 06:54 AM

53. True.

I'll write a little story I think is amusing about a bad restaurant or some kind of bad experience and the first comment is: First World Problems. I'll say that the feminist website I've been reading for the last decade is becoming suspiciously anti-Democratic and be assured by people who have no idea about that website that it's right-wing. The show I've watched for many years because the host always supports Democrats but has non-Democratic guests: I'm told the host hates Democrats and is a libertarian/right-wing asshole. A lot of killing the messenger rather than discussing what was said. Negativity and condescension, depressing.

Some days I look at the internet in the morning and think, the hell with it, I'm going back to bed with a book. At least books are edited and the good ones have footnotes.

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