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Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:02 AM

So, on what rationale does trump NOT get arrested the day after his inauguration?

Remember that Michael Cohen went to jail for breaking Federal election laws? Remember that "Individual-1" was a co-conspirator?

I imagine that trump's defense would be that he never instructed Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels. But what objective person would ever believe that?

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Reply So, on what rationale does trump NOT get arrested the day after his inauguration? (Original post)
Goodheart Nov 2020 OP
C_U_L8R Nov 2020 #1
lagomorph777 Nov 2020 #5
exboyfil Nov 2020 #2
beachbumbob Nov 2020 #3
exboyfil Nov 2020 #4
Coleman Nov 2020 #6
dawg Nov 2020 #7
Hotler Nov 2020 #8
uponit7771 Nov 2020 #9
AmericanCanuck Nov 2020 #10

Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:04 AM

1. He's not in the country?

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:19 AM

5. Exactly. We don't have an extradition treaty with Russia.

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:06 AM

2. Has a handy-dandy federal pardon

from himself and possibly Pence.

State crimes on the other hand.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:09 AM

3. the problem we face with state crimes is a conservtive supreme court could rule that

 

state crime charges that parallel federal crimes that are "pardoned" are in essence double jeopardy and can not be prosecuted at state level. This is a real possibility

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:19 AM

4. Yes

I think that is how it will ultimately play out.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:54 AM

6. In 2019 the court ruled in favor of separate sovereigns

Which means federal charges and state charges do not risk double jeopardy. The court ruled 7-2, with RBG and Gorsuch dissenting, that separate sovereigns does not violate double jeopardy.
This is the DU member formerly known as Coleman.

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Response to beachbumbob (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 09:59 AM

7. What if they rule that way but NY still refuses to let him go?

Who's going to enforce their ruling?

This is how the Republicans are operating now. What if we started acting that way too?

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:06 AM

8. Joe said we're playing nice and we need to move on.

Just like with Bush/Cheney.

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Response to Hotler (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 10:24 AM

9. I have not read or heard him say anything like this he said he let the doj handle it

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Response to Goodheart (Original post)

Wed Nov 18, 2020, 11:33 AM

10. The only reason is for the country's image

 

We cannot be seen as jailing political leaders so the federal government should lay off.

On the other hand, state crimes are a different issue and godspeed if NY files an indictment and arrests Trumpty Dumpty.

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